Joe Lieberman; Democratic Party is Self-destructing

I'll let a dirty little secret out. I was seriously considering Jim Webb too, very early on.

Webb was the best choice the Democrats had available to them, but Hillary had it all rigged to simply ignore Webb.

Fucking stupid as hell.

Actually, I am a registered Independent.
But I am all in for Trump!
Promises made, promises kept!!!
 
I'm saying Bill Clinton was a center left president and he moved the party in that direction. I'm saying, for example, he implemented NAFTA.

NAFTA was a disaster for America's workers and Ross Perot tried to explain that to the public at the time, but now we can see it for ourselves.

What was Trump's appeal again?

Nothing you can grasp, apparently.

Go for a People's Republic, it will work this time!
He ran on repealing NAFTA.

And Trump has renegotiated NAFTA.

What is your point? Apparently it is too subtle for my Aspergers hobbled brain.
 
Joe nails it. The far Left is a losing proposition, nothing more.

Joe Lieberman: 'Far Left' Will Make Democrats a 'Losing Party' | Breitbart

Lieberman continued, “Kennedy was for tax cuts of various kinds, including — believe it or not — the capital gains tax cut. But that didn’t stop him from fighting for Civil Rights for African-Americans, particularly. He was the leader of that.”

Lieberman assessed: “But the party now is drifting left, and [there is] an interesting distinction. There’s a difference between being a traditional liberal Democrat and being a far-left Democrat, and this is not a far-left country. Look at what’s being talked about, now. This Green New Deal, which is basically a socialist manifesto for the government to take over everything. I’m a big supporter of doing something about climate change, but this goes way beyond that, and the general talk about socialism — which to me means government ownership and control of more of our economy — it’s just not who we are. The American people will never vote for that, so either the party comes back toward center-left, or it’s going to be a losing party.”

Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez(D-NY) and Ilhan Omar (D-MN) are not representative of the broader Democrat Party, said Lieberman.

“The Democrats took back control of the House … in last November’s elections, but it wasn’t because of Congresswomen Ocasio-Cortez or Omar,” stated Lieberman. “It was because a lot of center-left Democrats won swing districts, even Republican districts. They certainly weren’t going to win those districts with a socialist platform.”​
Republic and lost the house because so many Never Trumper Republicans retired. Good riddance. Dems won't keep the House for long.
:71: Right. :71:
 
Center left Democrats are the reason we ended up with Trump.
center left today is yesterday's Socialist. You don't even see what's happening to your party. I hope you never do.
Everyone to your immediate left looks like a socialist to you. Your opinion means squat.

Biden is part of the center left that gave us Trump.

And it's not my party. But I am interested to see how this all plays out.

The writing is already on the wall.

It sez, FOUR MORE YEARS!
Why? Is the fix in?
 
Center left Democrats are the reason we ended up with Trump.
center left today is yesterday's Socialist. You don't even see what's happening to your party. I hope you never do.
Everyone to your immediate left looks like a socialist to you. Your opinion means squat.

Biden is part of the center left that gave us Trump.

And it's not my party. But I am interested to see how this all plays out.

The writing is already on the wall.

It sez, FOUR MORE YEARS!
Why? Is the fix in?
Because everyone in the country now realizes the Dems have been lying to them for the last three years about trump colluding with the Russians....and the economy is great!
 
Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez(D-NY) and Ilhan Omar (D-MN) are not representative of the broader Democrat Party, said Lieberman.​

I have to disagree with Mr Lieberman there. I think they are becoming representative of the broader Democratic Party.

The only Democrats I personally know that are liberals do not accept Marxism. When they talk about socialism they really mean the Nordic Model Socialism or '
democratic socialism'. None of them are fans of the Identity Politics movement and think it simply ideological stupidity, you know, the kind of thing only an academic could fall for.

But the Civil Rights movement seems to have been hijacked by Identity Politics disciples, to the demise of the Civil Rights community.
 
I'm saying Bill Clinton was a center left president and he moved the party in that direction. I'm saying, for example, he implemented NAFTA.

NAFTA was a disaster for America's workers and Ross Perot tried to explain that to the public at the time, but now we can see it for ourselves.

What was Trump's appeal again?

Nothing you can grasp, apparently.

Go for a People's Republic, it will work this time!
He ran on repealing NAFTA.

And Trump has renegotiated NAFTA.

What is your point? Apparently it is too subtle for my Aspergers hobbled brain.
My point is that the center left Democrats created the situation that gave Trump a voice.
 
My point is that the center left Democrats created the situation that gave Trump a voice.
Only in that Hillary and the DNC rigged the primaries. I could not believe that Sanders won New Hampshire by such a wide margin, and yet Hillary still got most of the NH delegates, lol.

Meanwhile I have to ask what will the Dems be talking about from now on without the Russian Collusion hoax?


Currie Dobson on Twitter
 
My point is that the center left Democrats created the situation that gave Trump a voice.
Only in that Hillary and the DNC rigged the primaries. I could not believe that Sanders won New Hampshire by such a wide margin, and yet Hillary still got most of the NH delegates, lol.

Meanwhile I have to ask what will the Dems be talking about from now on without the Russian Collusion hoax?


Currie Dobson on Twitter
Yes, that is another way in which they gave us Trump. The Affordable Care Act also played a role.
 
My point is that the center left Democrats created the situation that gave Trump a voice.
Only in that Hillary and the DNC rigged the primaries. I could not believe that Sanders won New Hampshire by such a wide margin, and yet Hillary still got most of the NH delegates, lol.

Meanwhile I have to ask what will the Dems be talking about from now on without the Russian Collusion hoax?


Currie Dobson on Twitter
Yes, that is another way in which they gave us Trump. The Affordable Care Act also played a role.
The point is.......fuck Joe Lieberman. And the center left Democrats.
 
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I'm saying Bill Clinton was a center left president and he moved the party in that direction. I'm saying, for example, he implemented NAFTA.

NAFTA was a disaster for America's workers and Ross Perot tried to explain that to the public at the time, but now we can see it for ourselves.

What was Trump's appeal again?

Nothing you can grasp, apparently.

Go for a People's Republic, it will work this time!
He ran on repealing NAFTA.

Because it siphoned jobs from American workers.
 
I'm saying Bill Clinton was a center left president and he moved the party in that direction. I'm saying, for example, he implemented NAFTA.

NAFTA was a disaster for America's workers and Ross Perot tried to explain that to the public at the time, but now we can see it for ourselves.

What was Trump's appeal again?

Nothing you can grasp, apparently.

Go for a People's Republic, it will work this time!
He ran on repealing NAFTA.

Because it siphoned jobs from American workers.
:smoke:
 
I'm saying Bill Clinton was a center left president and he moved the party in that direction. I'm saying, for example, he implemented NAFTA.

NAFTA was a disaster for America's workers and Ross Perot tried to explain that to the public at the time, but now we can see it for ourselves.

What was Trump's appeal again?

Nothing you can grasp, apparently.

Go for a People's Republic, it will work this time!
He ran on repealing NAFTA.

Because it siphoned jobs from American workers.
:smoke:

What's that supposed to mean? I used to kinda enjoy your posts but lately you've been sort of an ass tbh. Maybe I judged you wrong.
 
I'm saying Bill Clinton was a center left president and he moved the party in that direction. I'm saying, for example, he implemented NAFTA.

NAFTA was a disaster for America's workers and Ross Perot tried to explain that to the public at the time, but now we can see it for ourselves.

What was Trump's appeal again?

Nothing you can grasp, apparently.

Go for a People's Republic, it will work this time!
He ran on repealing NAFTA.

Because it siphoned jobs from American workers.
:smoke:

What's that supposed to mean? I used to kinda enjoy your posts but lately you've been sort of an ass tbh. Maybe I judged you wrong.
I can be an ass. No question.

I understand why Trump was able to run on repealing NAFTA.
 
Yes, that is another way in which they gave us Trump. The Affordable Care Act also played a role.
I think the ACA was a good faith attempt to reduce the cost of health care and not socialize the entire industry. The state health insurance pools were a good idea, but the mandatory insurance not so much.

I would be all for opening up MEDICAID to the general public, with a premium based on income, but not a single payer system that leaves no room for private health insurance.

But all the current crop of candidates are talking about is single payer and using MediCARE as the vehicle. bad idea for many reasons, particularly given it will likely fuck up MEDICARE and that is one of the governments few successes that doesnt include bombing someone.
 

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