Joe Biden did not recieve one penny from his son's biz deals

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Why would you post stuff like that?
Obviously, you are a joke here, maybe intentionally.
The list above is not even in dispute in the real world.

Billiejeens is now 0-8.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

There is no evidence, kids, that Joe Biden did anything illegal

 

[Nostra]

There is no evidence, kids, that Joe Biden did anything illegal

Cult gonna cult.

 

[Billiejeens]

Billiejeens is now 0-8.

I think that it is intentional.

 

[Rawley]

Post it then

2) being a public official or person selected to be a public official, directly or indirectly, corruptly demands, seeks, receives, accepts, or agrees to receive or accept anything of value personally or for any other person or entity, in return for:
(A) being influenced in the performance of any official act;

18 U.S. Code § 201 - Bribery of public officials and witnesses

www.law.cornell.edu

 

[Markle]

There is no evidence, kids, that Joe Biden did anything illegal

 

[schmidlap]

There is no evidence, kids, that Joe Biden did anything illegal

If there were any credible evidence of the President having broken the law for monitory gain, why has the accusation not progressed from propaganda to actual charges by the extremists straining mightily to smear him?

 

[westwall]

You started the thread talking about how joe didn’t receive anything and then went into a talking points post about all the things trump did.

Where is ther counter argument that Biden didn’t receive any money?

You really don't expect bunghole to actually discuss the subject do you?

 

[westwall]

If there were any credible evidence of the President having broken the law for monitory gain, why has the accusation not progressed from propaganda to actual charges by the extremists straining mightily to smear him?

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No, if the DOJ weren't corrupt to the core the xiden crime family would already be in prison.

 

[Rigby5]

First, if you are going to whine about this being too long, go away. This is a complicated subject, and it can't be dealt with in 25 words or less. Have fun reading the constitution, for the federalist papers, they are a lot longer than my post.

Now then, for you serious folks......

Repubs are so disingenuous, they say 'Biden family this' Biden family that' trying to IMPLY Joe Biden is part of it.

HE isn't.

Joe Biden received nothing. No one anywhere, let alone on this forum, have produced evidence Joe Biden recieved money from his sibling's biz deals.

As for 'influence peddling' that's just an opinion, not a fact. You'll need to prove one of Hunter's associates benefitted directly from policies made by Joe Biden that were the result of meetings and deals made. I haven't seen any evidence of it, so far.

If it is your opinion, fine, say it is your opinion, you are entitled to it, but don't allege as fact without evidence.

Hunter is a private citizen, who is allowed to do business wherever he pleases. It is not illegal.

Trading off the family name? Okay, Hunter admits that, so do a lot of siblings of famous people do this, it's common, and not illegal.

You want to argue he didn't register as FARA? Fine, but it is not likely the DOJ will prosecute Hunter for just that one, they'll want more serious crimes to go with it and the DOJ (US atty Delaware David Weiss) ahs been investigating Hunter Biden for over 3 years, and so far, they haven't indicted him for anything.

A few of you were whining that Hunter has '20 LLCs'.

Okay,

Trump has 500 LLCs

Hunter made foreign business deals.

so? He's a private citizen.

Trump was president.

Trump made $160,000,000 off of foreign business deals when he was in office

Trump made up to $160 million from foreign countries as president - CREW | Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington

Trump and his company pledged to pause foreign business. They did not.

www.citizensforethics.org

Remember he promised not to do this?

As for shell companies.....

Trump has 500 such accounts.

What Trump's disclosure of his 500 LLCs can and can't tell us

Trump org was INDICTED for "tax fraud'.

Trump's charity was shut down for 'illegal activity' Trump was fined $2million bucks for 'embezzling funds for private use'.

Trump had to settle for $25,000,000 for a fake university which scammed thousands out of millions.

Trump was made liable for sexual abuse and defamation and must pay $5,000,000 and is indicted on 34 felony counts in NY.

Jared filed with the FEC, he's got $3 billion in the fund, and most of it came from the Saudis.

https://reports.adviserinfo.sec.gov/reports/ADV/315482/PDF/315482.pdf

You'll find Jared's name on the document on page 28. The fund's holdings are listed in several places.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/10/us/jared-kushner-saudi-investment-fund.htm

The Saudi documents obtained by The Times say that in return for its investment, the Saudi fund would receive a stake of at least 28 percent in Mr. Kushner’s main investment vehicle.

But, speaking of China, it appears the Kushners are doing fine over there, as well:

Kushner Family Stands to Gain From Visa Rules in Trump’s First Major Law (Published 2017)

In fact, Kushner Companies — when Mr. Kushner was still at the helm — had received $50 million in EB-5 financing for a separate New Jersey project, a Trump-branded luxury high-rise tower in Jersey City that opened late last year.

On Monday, Senator Dianne Feinstein, Democrat of California, called the visa program “a stark conflict of interest for the Trump White House.” Meanwhile, the ethics watchdog group Democracy 21 called for Mr. Kushner to recuse himself from all policy dealing with China. The group had previously called for Mr. Kushner to make public a full list of his family firm’s overseas business partners and lenders as well as a full divestiture of his business assets into a blind trust.

See, the difference is that Jared was a Senior WH official.

Hunter Biden was and is a private citizen.

But, of course, you on the right don't seem to give a damn about pertinent facts.

Nonsense.
If Joe Biden was not a criminal, he would not have been involved in the illegal Maiden coup, the murder of 30k native ethnic Russians, the treaty violations, the illegal firing of Shokin, the prevention of any investigation into Burisma Holding, the illegal stockpiling of arms in the Ukraine, etc.

Hunter did not "do business".
He sold nothing, produced nothing, had no skills, etc.
Most likely he was just the bagman for the whole corrupt gang, which likely included Obama and Hillary as well.

I voted for Obama and Hillary because they claimed to be anti war.
They lied.
They invaded and murdered twice what Bush did.

You cliam:

Trump was made liable for sexual abuse and defamation

But clearly that is a lie and the case by Jean Carroll has no basis in law.
She offered to model lingerie naked in a private dressing room with Trump.
So there is no possible way a fair jury could have ruled again Trump.

Half your post is about the Kushners, and has no place here.
Nor does the 500 LLCs. That just shows good business sense.

 

[Rigby5]

I agree. Hunter received millions for his excellent business acumen, his decades of experience in foreign trading, and his sober, trust-inspiring personal traits.

I'm certain the fact that his daddy was vice president of The United States had nothing to do with it.

At first I did not get the satire.
And let us not forget the final touch, how Joe illegally withheld congressional funds to the Ukraine, in order to get Shokin fired and all investigations of Burisma Holdings stopped.
Such a thoughtful touch, to care so much about the corruption in the Ukraine.

 

[SC Patriot]

If there were any credible evidence of the President having broken the law for monitory gain, why has the accusation not progressed from propaganda to actual charges by the extremists straining mightily to smear him?

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They do not have the right to levy charges. They are not the DoJ.

Wow.

 

[SC Patriot]

At first I did not get the satire.
And let us not forget the final touch, how Joe illegally withheld congressional funds to the Ukraine, in order to get Shokin fired and all investigations of Burisma Holdings stopped.
Such a thoughtful touch, to care so much about the corruption in the Ukraine.

Exactly. What right do we, the US have to blackmail a sovereign nation if they dont change their members of their judicial system?
When has that ever been done before?

 

[Rigby5]

So you now admit that there is zero evidence that Joe Biden was personally involved in anything illegal.

In fact there is very little evidence that there were ANY illegal acts at all

Joe personally violated the law by admitting he threatened to withhold congressional funding to the Ukraine unless the civil servant, Shokin, was illegally fired without cause.
The fact Joe also likely was behind the bribes that paid for the illegal Maidan coup has never been investigated, since they not only fired Shokin, but exiled him.
While Hunter was the bagman, it is much more likely Joe was the ringleader who Hunter was secretly working for.
Everything Obama, Hillary, and Joe Biden did with the Ukraine was totally illegal.
And they not only wrecked out economy with the illegal economic sanctions on Russia, but could easily cause WWIII.
And in fact, the odds of it going nuclear are very high.

 

[Rigby5]

Actually I believe it does matter

No it does not.
It is illegal to abuse your authority even if it is just to benefit others illegally.
That is especially true in the case of relatives being the beneficiaries.
But clearly Joe Biden is much more involved because he is the one who illegally violated treaties and started stockpiling billions worth of US weapons in the Ukraine, illegally imposed economic sanctions on Russia, etc.

 

[Billiejeens]

No it does not.
It is illegal to abuse your authority even if it is just to benefit others illegally.
That is especially true in the case of relatives being the beneficiaries.
But clearly Joe Biden is much more involved because he is the one who illegally violated treaties and started stockpiling billions worth of US weapons in the Ukraine, illegally imposed economic sanctions on Russia, etc.

This

all of this.

 

[Roudy]

First, if you are going to whine about this being too long, go away. This is a complicated subject, and it can't be dealt with in 25 words or less. Have fun reading the constitution, for the federalist papers, they are a lot longer than my post.

Now then, for you serious folks......

Repubs are so disingenuous, they say 'Biden family this' Biden family that' trying to IMPLY Joe Biden is part of it.

HE isn't.

Joe Biden received nothing. No one anywhere, let alone on this forum, have produced evidence Joe Biden recieved money from his sibling's biz deals.

As for 'influence peddling' that's just an opinion, not a fact. You'll need to prove one of Hunter's associates benefitted directly from policies made by Joe Biden that were the result of meetings and deals made. I haven't seen any evidence of it, so far.

If it is your opinion, fine, say it is your opinion, you are entitled to it, but don't allege as fact without evidence.

Hunter is a private citizen, who is allowed to do business wherever he pleases. It is not illegal.

Trading off the family name? Okay, Hunter admits that, so do a lot of siblings of famous people do this, it's common, and not illegal.

You want to argue he didn't register as FARA? Fine, but it is not likely the DOJ will prosecute Hunter for just that one, they'll want more serious crimes to go with it and the DOJ (US atty Delaware David Weiss) ahs been investigating Hunter Biden for over 3 years, and so far, they haven't indicted him for anything.

A few of you were whining that Hunter has '20 LLCs'.

Okay,

Trump has 500 LLCs

Hunter made foreign business deals.

so? He's a private citizen.

Trump was president.

Trump made $160,000,000 off of foreign business deals when he was in office

Trump made up to $160 million from foreign countries as president - CREW | Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington

Trump and his company pledged to pause foreign business. They did not.

www.citizensforethics.org

Remember he promised not to do this?

As for shell companies.....

Trump has 500 such accounts.

What Trump's disclosure of his 500 LLCs can and can't tell us

Trump org was INDICTED for "tax fraud'.

Trump's charity was shut down for 'illegal activity' Trump was fined $2million bucks for 'embezzling funds for private use'.

Trump had to settle for $25,000,000 for a fake university which scammed thousands out of millions.

Trump was made liable for sexual abuse and defamation and must pay $5,000,000 and is indicted on 34 felony counts in NY.

Jared filed with the FEC, he's got $3 billion in the fund, and most of it came from the Saudis.

https://reports.adviserinfo.sec.gov/reports/ADV/315482/PDF/315482.pdf

You'll find Jared's name on the document on page 28. The fund's holdings are listed in several places.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/10/us/jared-kushner-saudi-investment-fund.htm

The Saudi documents obtained by The Times say that in return for its investment, the Saudi fund would receive a stake of at least 28 percent in Mr. Kushner’s main investment vehicle.

But, speaking of China, it appears the Kushners are doing fine over there, as well:

Kushner Family Stands to Gain From Visa Rules in Trump’s First Major Law (Published 2017)

In fact, Kushner Companies — when Mr. Kushner was still at the helm — had received $50 million in EB-5 financing for a separate New Jersey project, a Trump-branded luxury high-rise tower in Jersey City that opened late last year.

On Monday, Senator Dianne Feinstein, Democrat of California, called the visa program “a stark conflict of interest for the Trump White House.” Meanwhile, the ethics watchdog group Democracy 21 called for Mr. Kushner to recuse himself from all policy dealing with China. The group had previously called for Mr. Kushner to make public a full list of his family firm’s overseas business partners and lenders as well as a full divestiture of his business assets into a blind trust.

See, the difference is that Jared was a Senior WH official.

Hunter Biden was and is a private citizen.

But, of course, you on the right don't seem to give a damn about pertinent facts.

 

[Rigby5]

Post it then

There are dozens of statutes that apply.
This is just the first I ran into:

{...
The Foreign Corrupt Practices Act of 1977, as amended, 15 U.S.C. §§ 78dd-1, et seq. ("FCPA"), was enacted for the purpose of making it unlawful for certain classes of persons and entities to make payments to foreign government officials to assist in obtaining or retaining business. Specifically, the anti-bribery provisions of the FCPA prohibit the willful use of the mails or any means of instrumentality of interstate commerce corruptly in furtherance of any offer, payment, promise to pay, or authorization of the payment of money or anything of value to any person, while knowing that all or a portion of such money or thing of value will be offered, given or promised, directly or indirectly, to a foreign official to influence the foreign official in his or her official capacity, induce the foreign official to do or omit to do an act in violation of his or her lawful duty, or to secure any improper advantage in order to assist in obtaining or retaining business for or with, or directing business to, any person.

Since 1977, the anti-bribery provisions of the FCPA have applied to all U.S. persons and certain foreign issuers of securities. With the enactment of certain amendments in 1998, the anti-bribery provisions of the FCPA now also apply to foreign firms and persons who cause, directly or through agents, an act in furtherance of such a corrupt payment to take place within the territory of the United States.
...}

 

[Rigby5]

There is no evidence, kids, that Joe Biden did anything illegal

Tons of evidence.
First of all, Hunter does not even pretend to have done anything for the tens of millions paid to him.
Second is that there is no way Joe could have been unaware of the extortion being done with his name, because he personally attacked Shokin and got him illegally fired, so that Hunter would not be investigated.
There is no way to excuse that criminal act by Joe, and dozens of other criminal acts.

 

[schmidlap]

No, if the DOJ weren't corrupt to the core the xiden crime family would already be in prison.

So, you acknowledge that the natterninnies in Congress can only blow gas and can contrive no actual, actionable offenses.

Manifestly, true!