jews vs islam...food for thought

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    The Global Islamic population is approximately 1,200,000,000, or 20% of
    the world population.

    They have received the following Nobel Prizes:

    Literature:
    1988 - Najib Mahfooz

    Peace:
    1978 - Mohamed Anwar El-Sadat
    1994 - Yaser Arafat

    Physics:
    1990 - Elias James Corey
    1999 - Ahmed Zewail

    Medicine:
    1960 - Peter Brian Medawar
    1998 - Ferid Mourad

    The Present Global Jewish population is approximately 14,000,000, or
    about 0.02% of the world population. They have received the following
    Nobel Prizes:

    Literature:
    1910 - Paul Heyse
    1927 - Henri Bergson
    1958 - Boris Pasternak
    1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon
    1966 - Nelly Sachs
    1976 - Saul Bellow
    1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer
    1981 - Elias Canetti
    1987 - Joseph Brodsky
    1991 - Nadine Gordimer World

    Peace:
    1911 - Alfred Fried
    1911 - Tobias Michael Carel Asser
    1968 - Rene Cassin
    1973 - Henry Kissinger
    1978 - Menachem Begin
    1986 - Elie Wiesel
    1994 - Shimon Peres
    1994 - Yitzhak Rabin

    Physics:
    1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer
    1906 - Henri Moissan
    1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson
    1908 - Gabriel Lippmann
    1910 - Otto Wallach
    1915 - Richard Willstaetter
    1918 - Fritz Haber
    1921 - Albert Einstein
    1922 - Niels Bohr
    1925 - James Franck
    1925 - Gustav Hertz
    1943 - Gustav Stern
    1943 - George Charles de Hevesy
    1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi
    1952 - Felix Bloch
    1954 - Max Born
    1958 - Igor Tamm
    1959 - Emilio Segre
    1960 - Donald A. Glaser
    1961 - Robert Hofstadter
    1961 - Melvin Calvin
    1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau
    1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz
    1965 - Richard Phillips Feynman
    1965 - Julian Schwinger
    1969 - Murray Gell-Mann
    1971 - Dennis Gabor
    1972 - William Howard Stein
    1973 - Brian David Josephson
    1975 - Benjamin Mottleson
    1976 - Burton Richter
    1977 - Ilya Prigogine
    1978 - Arno Allan Penzias
    1978 - Peter L Kapitza
    1979 - Stephen Weinberg
    1979 - Sheldon Glashow
    1979 - Herbert Charles Brown
    1980 - Paul Berg
    1980 - Walter Gilbert
    1981 - Roald Hoffmann
    1982 - Aaron Klug
    1985 - Albert A. Hauptman
    1985 - Jerome Karle
    1986 - Dudley R. Herschbach
    1988 - Robert Huber
    1988 - Leon Lederman
    1988 - Melvin Schwartz
    1988 - Jack Steinberger
    1989 - Sidney Altman
    1990 - Jerome Friedman
    1992 - Rudolph Marcus
    1995 - Martin Perl
    2000 - Alan J. Heeger

    Economics:
    1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson
    1971 - Simon Kuznets
    1972 - Kenneth Joseph Arrow
    1975 - Leonid Kantorovich
    1976 - Milton Friedman
    1978 - Herbert A. Simon
    1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein
    1985 - Franco Modigliani
    1987 - Robert M. Solow
    1990 - Harry Markowitz
    1990 - Merton Miller
    1992 - Gary Becker
    1993 - Robert Fogel

    Medicine:
    1908 - Elie Metchnikoff
    1908 - Paul Erlich
    1914 - Robert Barany
    1922 - Otto Meyerhof
    1930 - Karl Landsteiner
    1931 - Otto Warburg
    1936 - Otto Loewi
    1944 - Joseph Erlanger
    1944 - Herbert Spencer Gasser
    1945 - Ernst Boris Chain
    1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller
    1950 - Tadeus Reichstein
    1952 - Selman Abraham Waksman
    1953 - Hans Krebs
    1953 - Fritz Albert Lipmann
    1958 - Joshua Lederberg
    1959 - Arthur Kornberg
    1964 - Konrad Bloch
    1965 - Francois Jacob
    1965 - Andre Lwoff
    1967 - George Wald
    1968 - Marshall W. Nirenberg
    1969 - Salvador Luria
    1970 - Julius Axelrod
    1970 - Sir Bernard Katz
    1972 - Gerald Maurice Edelman
    1975 - Howard Martin Temin
    1976 - Baruch S. Blumberg
    1977 - Roselyn Sussman Yalow
    1978 - Daniel Nathans
    1980 - Baruj Benacerraf
    1984 - Cesar Milstein
    1985 - Michael Stuart Brown
    1985 - Joseph L. Goldstein
    1986 - Stanley Cohen [& Rita Levi-Montalcini]
    1988 - Gertrude Elion
    1989 - Harold Varmus
    1991 - Erwin Neher
    1991 - Bert Sakmann
    1993 - Richard J. Roberts
    1993 - Phillip Sharp
    1994 - Alfred Gilman
    1995 - Edward B. Lewis

    The Jews are not demonstrating with their dead on the streets, yelling
    and chanting and asking for revenge.

    The Jews are not promoting brain washing the children in military
    training camps, teaching them how to blow themselves up and cause
    maximum deaths of Jews and other non Muslims.

    The Jews don't hijack planes, nor kill athletes at the Olympics.
    The Jews don't traffic slaves, nor have leaders calling for Jihad and
    death to all the Infidels.

    The Jews don't have the economic strength of petroleum, nor the
    possibilities to force the world's media to see "their side" of the
    question.

    Perhaps the world's Muslims should consider investing more in standard
    education and less in blaming the Jews for all their problems.

    Regardless of your feelings about the crisis between Israel and the
    Palestinians and Arab neighbors, even if you believe there is more
    culpability on Israel's part for whatever reason, the following two
    sentences really say it all:

    If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more
    violence.

    If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel.
     
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    Well said.:thup:
     
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    I hope you won't think I'm hijacking your post, but this made me curious as to just what contributions the Arabs had made to the world besides algebra, the zero and the Muslim religion. I did a search on the internet and found an "A to Z" list compiled by a writer for Salon Magazine in 2002. Have a look and satisfy your curiosity. You won't be surprised by the "J" entry, but "R" is a real hoot!

    A is for Arabs
    By George Rafael,Salon Magazine
    January 8, 2002

    From algebra and coffee to guitars, optics and universities -- an alphabetical reminder of what the West owes to the People of the Crescent Moon.

    http://dir.salon.com/story/books/feature/2002/01/08/alphabet/index.html
     
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    'D is for Dante" is a real hoot, too. In his "Inferno", Dante has the founder of the Muslim religion squarely in one of the lowest levels of Hell as one of those who misled others into believing in false faiths and in false prophets.

    I wonder if "J" could be for "Jew hatred", too?
     
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    not at all .... it was once a mighty culture ..... but they have not done shit for society as whole in the last 1000 years .....
     
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    There is must debate about their "zero" invention. It is believed to have existed long before Islam. Also, the other stuff they "invented" is mostly attributed to those living under islamic oppression. That is why the "inventions" by Islam were so great in the beginning, because Islam was just spreading its dark wings. Once the wings of darkness were fully spread, all enlightenment stopped.

    IMHO :arabia:
     
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    I'm sure the book is biased and all, but browsing through "The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam" brought up some interesting points. Namely, the explanation of why there was a golden age of Islam which petered out. It seems that a good bit of this was due to the subjugation of jews and christians in the middle east and africa. He went through quite a long list of innovations which were actually developed first by christian communities, although I cannot remember specifics. At first these communities were able to survive as second rate citizens, paying a hefty tax. Then later on, it was simply conversion at the point of a sword, and innovation died out.
     
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    I'm sorry. but winning prizes that Yassar Arafat qualifies for means nothing.
     
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    they bulid their country on palastine on 1948 so you
    know
    beside alll the world have to kiss the jewish ass so they give them all this nobel pricezzz


    yeah another thing you dont know about jewish they killed so many palastine and they kill them every single day but u just never know
     
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    couple of things

    can you link me up to a map pre 1948 that shows palestine, league of nations map? world atlas...anything would be cool...because in AD300 or so the moors killed all the jews and christians and took jerusalem by force....

    if they are killing palestinians every single day since 1948...that would be 58 years at 365 days per year and 5 people a day or 105,850 people...can you link me up to an english translation fro al jiz or something supporting your claim
     

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