Jews In LA California Stand In Solidarity With The Palestinians Of Gaza

You know and I know that if the arabs ever become the majority in Israel, they'll vote Israel out of existance.... You happy about that?
no, you and I both DON'T know that any more than southerners just KNEW that all those blacks would start a rampage in raping some white women.
In memorable words of Ali Abunima, who is quite honest in acknowledging that, in a one-state solution a disastrous situation for jews can't be ruled out. So, normal jews don't have to guess and listen to the what-if bullshiteering.
 
If you can then I invite you to do so instead of assuming you know what a population of people living under the thumb of their oppressors may or may not do.
Ah! Oppressive occupational drivel.
The ME is no different unless you believe, somehow, humanity doesn't apply. Much like how we didn't see blacks rise up to overthrow anything in the aftermath of the cotton farm days I have more faith that jews and muslims can live together in peace than you do, apparently. After all, it won't be the first time such is the case on that very piece of land.
Hilarious drivel!
 
You know and I know that if the arabs ever become the majority in Israel, they'll vote Israel out of existance.... You happy about that?
no, you and I both DON'T know that any more than southerners just KNEW that all those blacks would start a rampage in raping some white women.
In memorable words of Ali Abunima, who is quite honest in acknowledging that, in a one-state solution a disastrous situation for jews can't be ruled out. So, normal jews don't have to guess and listen to the what-if bullshiteering.
How was it for jews in Palestine before the zionist's take-over?
 
no, you and I both DON'T know that any more than southerners just KNEW that all those blacks would start a rampage in raping some white women.[/size][/i]
In memorable words of Ali Abunima, who is quite honest in acknowledging that, in a one-state solution a disastrous situation for jews can't be ruled out. So, normal jews don't have to guess and listen to the what-if bullshiteering.
How was it for jews in Palestine before the zionist's take-over?

Puta, no love for theB Basques, puta?

Basque oppression stepped up. State oppression by both France and Spain continues while UN Human Rights Committee raises concerns.
Basque oppression stepped up - Scottish Socialist Voice
 
no, you and I both DON'T know that any more than southerners just KNEW that all those blacks would start a rampage in raping some white women.[/size][/i]
In memorable words of Ali Abunima, who is quite honest in acknowledging that, in a one-state solution a disastrous situation for jews can't be ruled out. So, normal jews don't have to guess and listen to the what-if bullshiteering.
How was it for jews in Palestine before the zionist's take-over?

Puta, an uneducated hotel maid like you wouldn't know that "Palestine" was merely the Roman name for Israel.

Biblical Historian and Scholar Dr. Paula Fredriksen, Ph.D, History of Religion, Princeton University, Diploma in Theology, Oxford University...
The Judean revolt against Rome was led by [Jewish messiah] Bar Kochba in 132-135 CE. The immediate causes of this rebellion are obscure. Its result was not: [Roman Emperor] Hadrian crushed the revolt and banned Jews from Judea. The Romans now designated this territory by a political neologism, "Palestine" [a Latin form of "Philistine"], in a deliberate effort to denationalize Jewish/Judean territory. And, finally, Hadrian eradicated Jewish Jerusalem, erecting upon its ruins a new pagan city, Aelia Capitolina.
Augustine and the Jews: A Christian ... - Paula Fredriksen - Google Books

The Zionists tranformed the land from wasteland into glorious Israel one of the most advanced, successful countries in the world while your shithole spain is bankrupt and backward.

John F. Kennedy: Zionists of America :clap2:
When the first Zionist conference met in 1897, Palestine was a neglected wasteland

I first saw Palestine in 1939. There the neglect and ruin left by centuries of Ottoman [Muslim] misrule were slowly being transformed by miracles of [Jewish] labor and sacrifice. But Palestine was still a land of promise in 1939, rather than a land of fulfillment. I returned in 1951 to see the grandeur of Israel

I left with the conviction that the United Nations may have conferred on Israel the credentials of nationhood; but its own idealism and courage, its own sacrifice and generosity, had earned the credentials of immortality.

Israel was not created in order to disappear - Israel will endure and flourish. It is the child of hope and the home of the brave. It can neither be broken by adversity nor demoralized by success. It carries the shield of democracy and it honors the sword of freedom; and no area of the world has ever had an overabundance of democracy and freedom.

It is worth remembering, too, that Israel is a cause that stands beyond the ordinary changes and chances of American public life. In our pluralistic society, it has not been a Jewish cause - any more than Irish independence was solely the concern of Americans of Irish descent. The ideals of Zionism have, in the last half century, been repeatedly endorsed by Presidents and Members of Congress from both parties. Friendship for Israel is not a partisan matter. It is a national commitment.

The original Zionist philosophy has always maintained that the people of Israel would use their national genius not for selfish purposes but for the enrichment and glory of the entire Middle East. The earliest leaders of the Zionist movement spoke of a Jewish state which would have no military power and which would be content with victories of the spirit

The technical skills and genius of Israel have already brought their blessings to Burma and to Ethiopia. Still other nations in Asia and in Africa are eager to benefit from the special skills available in that bustling land

John F. Kennedy: Speech by Senator John F. Kennedy, Zionists of America Convention, Statler Hilton Hotel, New York, NY

John F. Kennedy, "Salute To Israel"
Both Israel and the United States acknowledge the supremacy of the moral law – both believe in personal as well as national liberty – and, perhaps most important, both will fight to the end to maintain that liberty

I join in this salute of Israel today because of my own deep admiration for Israel and her people – an admiration based not on hearsay, not on assumption, but on my own personal experience. For I went to Palestine in 1939; and I saw there an unhappy land...For century after century, Romans, Turks, Christians, Moslems, Pagans, British – all had conquered the Holy Land – but none could make it prosper. In the words of Israel Zangwill: “The land without a people waited for the people without a land.” The realm where once milk and honey flowed, and civilization flourished, was in 1939 a barren realm – barren of hope and cheer and progress as well as crops and industries – a gloomy picture for a young man paying his first visit from the United States.

But 12 years later, in 1951, I traveled again to the land by the River Jordan – this time as a Member of the Congress of the United States – and this time to see first-hand the new State of Israel. The transformation which had taken place could not have been more complete. For between the time of my visit in 1939 and my visit in 1951, a nation had been reborn – a desert had been reclaimed – and a national integrity had been redeemed, after 2,000 years of seemingly endless waiting. Zion had at least been restored – and she had promptly opened her arms to the homeless and the weary and the persecuted. It was the “Ingathering of the Exiles” – they had heard the call of their homeland; and they had come, brands plucked from the burning – they had come from concentration camps and ghettoes, from distant exile and dangerous sanctuary, from broken homes in Poland and lonely huts in Yemen, like the ancient strangers in a strange land they had come. And Israel received them all, fed them, housed them, cared for them, bound up their wounds, and enlisted them in the struggle to build a new nation.

Yes; Israel, we salute you. We honor your progress and your determination and your spirit. But in the midst of our rejoicing we do not forget your peril. We know that no other nation in this world lives out its days in an atmosphere of such constant tension and fear. We know that no other nation in this world is surrounded on every side by such violent hate and prejudice

http://www.findingcamelot.net/speec...f-kennedy-at-yankee-stadium-on-april-29-1956/


Massachussets Institute of Technology [MIT]... :clap2:
As a world leader in science and technology, Israel excels in such areas as genetics, medicine, agriculture, computer sciences, electronics, optics, and engineering. Scientists at Israeli universities such as Bar Ilan University, Ben Gurion University, Haifa University, Hebrew University, The Technion--Israel Institute of Technology, Tel Aviv University and the Weizmann Institute of Science are pioneers in areas such as stem cell-based tissue engineering, nanotechnology, high-resolution electron microscopy, and solar energy. Israeli companies have developed such diverse products as the first anti-virus package, technologies that allow you to leave voice mail on mobile phones, and stents that save lives by keeping the arteries to the heart open.

http://web.mit.edu/misti/mit-israel/
 
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The ME is different. A lot different. For every "blacks didn't rape white women" , or "Mandela didn't take revenge", I can give you a dozen examples of the opposite happening.

That aside, the ME has always been a nightmare and it always will be. Not so easily swept under the carpet, and certainly not a candidate for Shogun's idea of Utopia. Don't get me wrong, I wish it was, but if you think otherwise you are being naive at best, disingenuous at worse...

Then again, maybe you have a lot more faith in the human race. The story, so far, from that part of the world - suggests my POV will win out more likely than yours...

If you can then I invite you to do so instead of assuming you know what a population of people living under the thumb of their oppressors may or may not do.

The ME is no different unless you believe, somehow, humanity doesn't apply. Much like how we didn't see blacks rise up to overthrow anything in the aftermath of the cotton farm days I have more faith that jews and muslims can live together in peace than you do, apparently. After all, it won't be the first time such is the case on that very piece of land.

Don't blame the foot for limping when you refuse to acknowledge the stone in your shoe, gump. Remove the stone (rationalized racism via zoinism) and you may be shocked at how strait the people of that land can walk.

The only reason your idea would win is if you allow another manifest destiny to occur. I would choose another path; it's no more a utopian idea than interracial marriages are in post-civil rights era America.

There is the slight point that there is 2000 years of history to back up my POV. And the fact that Hezbollah and Hamas distinctly hate the Jews, and let's not forget the four wars.

I like the idea of your path, but the chances of it happening? Nada

You purposefully ignore every period within that 2000 years in which peace WAS achieved among jews and muslims. The mitigating factor is not some kind of mutual exclusion between their respective cultures; it's a one sided validation of superior validity of one over the other - Just as we've seen in any other culture held under the thumb by another.

The black panthers hated whitey too. Guess what happened to their black children when those black children weren't busy drinking from colored-only water fountains.

If you could beat back the self-righteousness of zionism (the last contemporary accepted racism) you'd find out in one generation what we've come to know in our multi-cultural America. As long as we allow Jstone-types to insist on the exclusivity of their ethnicity.. well, don't be so shocked when the black panther becomes militant.
 
You know and I know that if the arabs ever become the majority in Israel, they'll vote Israel out of existance.... You happy about that?
no, you and I both DON'T know that any more than southerners just KNEW that all those blacks would start a rampage in raping some white women.
In memorable words of Ali Abunima, who is quite honest in acknowledging that, in a one-state solution a disastrous situation for jews can't be ruled out. So, normal jews don't have to guess and listen to the what-if bullshiteering.

Oh lordy... you found one guy whose opinion must be truth!

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Like I said, your kind are no better than those who were afraid to let the ******* out of the cotton field. if you can't deal with ethnic equality then it's too bad you are not treated here like you rationalize treating them THERE.
 
If you can then I invite you to do so instead of assuming you know what a population of people living under the thumb of their oppressors may or may not do.
Ah! Oppressive occupational drivel.
The ME is no different unless you believe, somehow, humanity doesn't apply. Much like how we didn't see blacks rise up to overthrow anything in the aftermath of the cotton farm days I have more faith that jews and muslims can live together in peace than you do, apparently. After all, it won't be the first time such is the case on that very piece of land.
Hilarious drivel!

Impressive retort from the guy who can't seem to read an entire post!

I'm shocked you've resisted the urge to scream "NAZI ANTISEMITE" by now.
 
If you could beat back the self-righteousness of zionism (the last contemporary accepted racism) you'd find out in one generation what we've come to know in our multi-cultural America. As long as we allow Jstone-types to insist on the exclusivity of their ethnicity.. well, don't be so shocked when the black panther becomes militant.

If you think that is the only problem, then I have a bridge to sell you in Alaska. The Pals have only come to the table because they got their arses whipped four times in 60 years...

Let me ask you this...what do you think would have happened if Israel had lost one - just one - of those wars?
 
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If you could beat back the self-righteousness of zionism (the last contemporary accepted racism
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Israeli Declaration of Independence...
THE STATE OF ISRAEL will be open for Jewish immigration and for the Ingathering of the Exiles; it will foster the development of the country for the benefit of all its inhabitants; it will be based on freedom, justice and peace as envisaged by the prophets of Israel; it will ensure complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion, race or sex; it will guarantee freedom of religion, conscience, language, education and culture; it will safeguard the Holy Places of all religions; and it will be faithful to the principles of the Charter of the United Nations.

Martin Luther King, Jr...
When people criticize Zionists, they mean Jews. You are talking anti-Semitism.

I see Israel as one of the great outposts of democracy in the world, and a marvelous example of what can be done, how desert land can be transformed into an oasis of brotherhood and democracy. Peace for Israel means security and that security must be a reality.

I solemnly pledge to do my utmost to uphold the fair name of the Jews -- because bigotry in any form is an affront to us all.
"I have a dream" for peace in the Middle East / King's special bond with Israel

John F. Kennedy: Zionists of America...
Israel carries the shield of democracy and it honors the sword of freedom; and no area of the world has ever had an overabundance of democracy and freedom.

It is worth remembering, too, that Israel is a cause that stands beyond the ordinary changes and chances of American public life. In our pluralistic society, it has not been a Jewish cause - any more than Irish independence was solely the concern of Americans of Irish descent. The ideals of Zionism have, in the last half century, been repeatedly endorsed by Presidents and Members of Congress from both parties. Friendship for Israel is not a partisan matter. It is a national commitment.

The original Zionist philosophy has always maintained that the people of Israel would use their national genius not for selfish purposes but for the enrichment and glory of the entire Middle East. The earliest leaders of the Zionist movement spoke of a Jewish state which would have no military power and which would be content with victories of the spirit

The technical skills and genius of Israel have already brought their blessings to Burma and to Ethiopia. Still other nations in Asia and in Africa are eager to benefit from the special skills available in that bustling land

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=74217#axzz1S92dTMKN
 
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If you could beat back the self-righteousness of zionism (the last contemporary accepted racism) you'd find out in one generation what we've come to know in our multi-cultural America. As long as we allow Jstone-types to insist on the exclusivity of their ethnicity.. well, don't be so shocked when the black panther becomes militant.

If you think that is the only problem, then I have a bridge to sell you in Alaska. The Pals have only come to the table because they got their arses whipped four times in 60 years...

Let me ask you this...what do you think would have happened if Israel had lost one - just one - of those wars?

I think that, without coming to it on their own, a muslim palestine would bave been pressured internationally to come to the same conclusion that South Africa did.

The one thing you keep forgetting is that the subjugation of palestinians has been a fount of excuses to hate jews over the years. Without acknowledging that, you can't really play the hypothetical game. Hell, WHAT IF the zionist mandate actually shared the land equally with the indigenous population as it was MEANT to?

Since we are asking questions of one another; Would it have been logical for America to have skipped the horrors of the civil rights era by keeping blacks as slaves on the assumption that freeing them would have lead to a clash for equality?
 
If you could beat back the self-righteousness of zionism (the last contemporary accepted racism) you'd find out in one generation what we've come to know in our multi-cultural America. As long as we allow Jstone-types to insist on the exclusivity of their ethnicity.. well, don't be so shocked when the black panther becomes militant.

If you think that is the only problem, then I have a bridge to sell you in Alaska. The Pals have only come to the table because they got their arses whipped four times in 60 years...

Let me ask you this...what do you think would have happened if Israel had lost one - just one - of those wars?

There has only been one war between Israel and Palestine. Israel started it a hundred years ago and has not won yet.
 
If you could beat back the self-righteousness of zionism (the last contemporary accepted racism) you'd find out in one generation what we've come to know in our multi-cultural America. As long as we allow Jstone-types to insist on the exclusivity of their ethnicity.. well, don't be so shocked when the black panther becomes militant.

If you think that is the only problem, then I have a bridge to sell you in Alaska. The Pals have only come to the table because they got their arses whipped four times in 60 years...

Let me ask you this...what do you think would have happened if Israel had lost one - just one - of those wars?

There has only been one war between Israel and Palestine. Israel started it a hundred years ago and has not won yet.

"Palestina" was merely the Roman Latin name for Israel. The Romans went back to Italy 1500 years ago so Palestina is illegitimate. The Romans also renamed Jerusalem "Aelia Capitolina" but it's still known as Jerusalem.

Biblical Historian and Scholar Dr. Paula Fredriksen, Ph.D, History of Religion, Princeton University, Diploma in Theology, Oxford University...
The Judean revolt against Rome was led by [Jewish messiah] Bar Kochba in 132-135 CE. The immediate causes of this rebellion are obscure. Its result was not: [Roman Emperor] Hadrian crushed the revolt and banned Jews from Judea. The Romans now designated this territory by a political neologism, "Palestine" [a Latin form of "Philistine"], in a deliberate effort to denationalize Jewish/Judean territory. And, finally, Hadrian eradicated Jewish Jerusalem, erecting upon its ruins a new pagan city, Aelia Capitolina.
Augustine and the Jews: A Christian ... - Paula Fredriksen - Google Books

Jesus was King of Israel, not "Palestine"

Jesus Christ, King of Israel ...
John 12:12-13 The next day the great crowd that had come for the Feast heard that Jesus was on his way to Jerusalem. They took branches of palm trees, and went forth to meet him, and cried, Hosanna: Blessed is the King of Israel that cometh in the name of the Lord.

Jesus Enters Jerusalem as King of Israel John 12 Commentary - Jesus Enters Jerusalem as King of Israel - BibleGateway.com
Passover was one of the three feasts that Jews were supposed to attend in Jerusalem, and consequently the population of Jerusalem swelled enormously at this time. As this great crowd is beginning to gather from around Israel and the larger world of the diaspora, news about Jesus is spreading, and people are wondering whether he will come to the feast. On Sunday, the day after the party in Bethany at which Mary anointed Jesus, news arrives that Jesus is on his way to Jerusalem, and a crowd of pilgrims, presumably those who had been wondering if he would come, goes out to meet him. Mary's private expression of emotion is now matched by the crowd's public outpouring of enthusiasm.
They shout Hosanna! Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!. These are lines from one of the Psalms of Ascents sung as a welcome to pilgrims coming up to Jerusalem. As such, this is an entirely appropriate thing to do as Jesus is coming up to Jerusalem. The cry of Hosanna! is a Hebrew word (hoshi`ah-na) that had become a greeting or shout of praise but that actually meant "Save!" or "Help!". The cry of Hosanna! and the palm branches are in themselves somewhat ambiguous, but their import is made clear as the crowd adds a further line, Blessed is the King of Israel! (v. 13). Clearly they see in Jesus the answer to their nationalistic, messianic hopes. Earlier a crowd had wanted to make Jesus king (6:15), and now this crowd is recognizing him as king in the city of the great King. Here is the great dream of a Davidic ruler who would come and liberate Israel, establishing peace and subduing the Gentiles (cf. Psalms of Solomon 17:21-25).

John the Baptist's witness to Israel (1:31) finds its initial response in the confession of Nathanael, a true Israelite (1:47), when Nathanael confesses Jesus to be the Son of God, the King of Israel (1:49). Nathanael stands in marked contrast to Nicodemus, a teacher of Israel (3:10), who is unable to understand earthly things, let alone heavenly things. So the first three chapters are characterized by a concern with the initial witness to Israel, and this motif now finds its fullness in this crowd's acclamation of Jesus as the King of Israel. Jesus is indeed King of Israel, and this motif now comes to the fore as the story nears its end His kingdom, however, far transcends Israel's boundaries. "What honor was it to the Lord to be King of Israel? What great thing was it to the King of eternity to become the King of men?".

The crowd is probably not aware that the line they have added to the acclamation is an echo of another passage that further contributes to the depth of revelation concerning Jesus in this story: "The Lord, the King of Israel, is with you; never again will you fear any harm"
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If you could beat back the self-righteousness of zionism (the last contemporary accepted racism) you'd find out in one generation what we've come to know in our multi-cultural America. As long as we allow Jstone-types to insist on the exclusivity of their ethnicity.. well, don't be so shocked when the black panther becomes militant.

If you think that is the only problem, then I have a bridge to sell you in Alaska. The Pals have only come to the table because they got their arses whipped four times in 60 years...

Let me ask you this...what do you think would have happened if Israel had lost one - just one - of those wars?

I think that, without coming to it on their own, a muslim palestine would bave been pressured internationally to come to the same conclusion that South Africa did.

The one thing you keep forgetting is that the subjugation of palestinians has been a fount of excuses to hate jews over the years. Without acknowledging that, you can't really play the hypothetical game. Hell, WHAT IF the zionist mandate actually shared the land equally with the indigenous population as it was MEANT to?

Since we are asking questions of one another; Would it have been logical for America to have skipped the horrors of the civil rights era by keeping blacks as slaves on the assumption that freeing them would have lead to a clash for equality?
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Arab-American Dr. Wafa Sultan, Human Rights Activist, Among "Time magazine's 100 heroes and pioneers whose power, talent or moral example is transforming our world"Wafa Sultan - The 2006 TIME 100 - TIME.
For the last 1,400 years, since its inception, Islamic ideology has attempted to deprive the Jews of their three most cherished possessions -- their Bible, their Lives, and their Land of Israel. During my school years, I heard my teachers, family members, neighbors, and the media all bombarding us daily, throughout the Arab world. We, as small kids and young adults, were indoctrinated to share the anti-Semitic vitriol -- to despise and denigrate Jews. God condemned the Jews because they falsified the Torah. How did I know it? That is what I was taught. Since Jews forged the Bible, they were despised and depicted as pigs and apes. How did I know it? That is what I was taught. Jews killed our prophets and were the enemies of Allah. How did I know it? That is what I was taught. Therefore, the Jews represent an existential danger to all humanity, so their annihilation, as individuals and as a people, was and would be a legitimate service to God and mankind. How did I know it? That is what I was taught.

Yes, killing Jews was always presented to me and my classmates as a religious obligation. We absorbed this evil propaganda with our food and water, and with our school books, each and every day. As a trained psychiatrist, I assert that seeds of hatred planted in the mind of a child, lead to immense hatred as the child grows into adulthood. Tragically, this hatred generates dangerous actions and even death.

The United Nations and Human Rights Abuse | EuropeNews


3 year old Muslima child...
Do you know the Jews? "Yes"
Do you like them? "No"
Why don't you like them?: "Because they are apes and pigs"
Who said that about them? "Our god"
Where did he say that about them? "The Koran"
 
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Israel has stolen peace from the Palestinians.

Burak Bekdil, Hurriyet Daily News [Turkey] http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=cheir-anaka-la-taktol-2011-03-15
In the early hours of Saturday, a Palestinian broke into a house in the settlement of Itamar and stabbed to death a couple and their three children, aged 3 months, 4 years and 10 years old. The slain bodies were discovered by the couple’s 12-year-old daughter who was not at home when the murder was committed. The “Imad Mughniyeh” cell, with alleged links to the al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigade, claimed responsibility for the attack. The terrorist group is named after the “phantom” terrorist Imad Mughniyeh who was killed in a car bomb attack in Damascus which Hezbollah blamed on Israeli agents. Mr. Mughniyeh, or the “Shia bin-Laden,” was one of the world’s most wanted men (wanted in 42 countries) while he was enjoying a safe haven in the Syrian capital prior to his assassination.

In May 2002, a Palestinian killed a 14-year-old boy and wounded another teenager in the same settlement. A month later, another Palestinian killed a woman and her three children. In July the same year another Palestinian stabbed and wounded a couple. And in August 2004, a Palestinian killed a resident of Itamar.

The killing of a 3-month old baby reminded me, inevitably, of what a “Palestinian warrior” told me in Ramallah in 2006. When he praised his suicide bomber sister who had injured a 95-year-old woman (and killed herself) in an attack, I asked him what was the point of injuring or killing elderly women or toddlers when young Palestinians also died in these attacks. He smiled and explained as simply as he could: “For us, even a 1-year-old Israeli baby is a soldier. And that [95-year-old] woman was also an Israeli soldier!” I thought it might not be safe to ask him any further questions.

But in 2008, this time in London and speaking to another Palestinian, I felt more comfortable and dared question the logic of the act that “indiscriminately angers our prime minister.” I reminded him of a verse in the Quran (4:93): “Whoever kills a believer intentionally, his recompense is Hell wherein he will abide eternally, and Allah has become angry with him and has cursed him and has prepared for him a great punishment.”

My Palestinian friend counter-attacked with another verse (17:33): “And do not kill the soul which Allah has forbidden, except by right.” Then came his loud and tempered explanation: “The verse 4:93 forbids killing a believer. Israelis are not believers.” I looked out from the window of the pub where his orange juice vs. my wine stood on the table like two objects silently telling us why we could never agree

For a moment, I thought about reminding him that Jews, too, are believers, like other non-Muslim believers, or ask him if the Quran (in verse 4:93) permitted the killing of atheists. But he loudly went back to verse 17:33, with radiating eyes satisfied with the near victory in our little intellectual duel. “You see, that verse forbids killing ‘except by right.’ And it is evident that some killings fall into the category of ‘exception by right.’”

I sipped my wine and got lost in thought, wondering how a doctoral candidate of engineering from a decent British university could defend the murder of innocent people only because they belonged to a faith other than his. How could he twist his own (and my) holy book so as to find holy justifications for the killing of innocent people?
 
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Israel has stolen peace from the Palestinians.
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Human Rights Watch: Gaza---Armed Palestinian Groups Commit Grave Crimes. Fighters Execute Captives, Attack Hospital, Put Journalists at Serious Risk
Gaza: Armed Palestinian Groups Commit Grave Crimes | Human Rights Watch
During recent fighting in the Gaza Strip, armed Palestinian groups have committed serious violations of international humanitarian law, in some cases amounting to war crimes, Human Rights Watch said today.
In internal Palestinian fighting over the last three days, both Fatah and Hamas military forces have summarily executed captives, killed people not involved in hostilities, and engaged in gun battles with one another inside and near Palestinian hospitals. On Saturday, armed Palestinians from Islamic Jihad and the Fatah-affiliated Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade used a vehicle with a “TV” insignia to attack an Israeli military position on the border with Gaza.

“These attacks by both Hamas and Fatah constitute brutal assaults on the most fundamental humanitarian principles,” said Sarah Leah Whitson, Middle East director for Human Rights Watch. “The murder of civilians not engaged in hostilities and the willful killing of captives are war crimes, pure and simple.”

On Sunday, Hamas military forces captured 28-year-old Muhammad Swairki, a cook for President Mahmoud Abbas’s presidential guard, and executed him by throwing him to his death, with his hands and legs tied, from a 15-story apartment building in Gaza City. Later that night, Fatah military forces shot and captured Muhammad al-Ra’fati, a Hamas supporter and mosque preacher, and threw him from a Gaza City high-rise apartment building. On Monday, Hamas military forces attacked the home in Beit Lahiya of Jamal Abu al-Jadiyan, a senior Fatah official, captured him, and executed him on the street with multiple gunshots. On Tuesday, there were reports of additional killings of individuals not involved in hostilities.

In addition, Fatah and Hamas forces engaged in battles in and around two Gaza Strip hospitals on Monday. After Hamas fighters killed Fatah intelligence officer Yasir Bakar, Fatah gunmen began firing mortars and rocket-propelled grenades at Shifa Hospital in Gaza City, drawing Hamas fire from inside the building, killing one Hamas and one Fatah fighter. At a hospital in Beit Hanun, three family members with ties to Fatah, `Id al-Masri and his sons, Farij and Ibrahim, were killed, and others wounded. Hospital officials reported that the three were being treated for injuries sustained earlier. One was reportedly shot at close range.

All parties engaged in armed conflict are subject to customary international humanitarian law, which forbids deliberate harming of civilians and those who are not engaged in armed hostilities at the time, Human Rights Watch said. International humanitarian law also provides special protection to medical personnel and hospitals. Military and civilian hospitals and medical units must be protected and respected in all circumstances.

In the June 9 incident, four armed Palestinians drove a white jeep bearing “TV” insignias to a fence on the Gaza-Israel border and fired at Israeli soldiers. The Israelis returned fire, killing one Palestinian. Spokesmen for Islamic Jihad and the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, an offshoot of Fatah, claimed responsibility for the attack. An Islamic Jihad spokesperson denied that Palestinians had put press markings on the jeep used in the June 9 attack, and accused the Israeli military of doing so after the fact. However, photos taken by the Associated Press as the attack was under way show the letters “TV” written in red on the front of the jeep.

“Using a vehicle with press markings to carry out a military attack is a serious violation of the laws of war, and it also puts journalists at risk,” said Whitson.

Customary international humanitarian law provides that journalists not taking direct part in hostilities in armed conflict zones “shall be considered as civilians.” The deliberate abuse of this protected status in order to breach the confidence of an adversary in an attempt to kill, injure or capture them, would amount to an act of perfidy, a serious violation of international humanitarian law.

The Palestinian Journalists Union on Sunday criticized the use by armed factions of press insignia in a statement: “The use of vehicles that carry ‘Press,’ ‘TV’ or other signs ... exposes journalists’ lives to danger, gives the Israeli occupation a pretext to target and kill journalists and restricts their ability to perform their professional and national duties. … We demand all parties stop using these methods.”
 

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