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What propaganda are you talking about Monti ? It seems that whenever I provide you with facts that you don't like, you accuse me of posting propaganda.Since you have only had propaganda to relate to, the end of the article tells it all:
"This is the first time we see how they describe things from their point of view, "Ben Bassat says." It's not a matter of being for or against Zionism – it simply shows how complex this meeting was, and that can't be learned anywhere else."
New documents reveal early Palestinian attitudes toward Zionist settlements - Israel News Haaretz
The fact STILL remains that the first documented massacre was of Arabs killing Jews. Deal with it
Also, in the examples of Arabs massacring Jews that I have provided, can you show me where it says they were defending themselves?
yWhat propaganda are you talking about Monti ? It seems that whenever I provide you with facts that you don't like, you accuse me of posting propaganda.Since you have only had propaganda to relate to, the end of the article tells it all:
"This is the first time we see how they describe things from their point of view, "Ben Bassat says." It's not a matter of being for or against Zionism – it simply shows how complex this meeting was, and that can't be learned anywhere else."
New documents reveal early Palestinian attitudes toward Zionist settlements - Israel News Haaretz
The fact STILL remains that the first documented massacre was of Arabs killing Jews. Deal with it
The first documented killing was of the Europeans killing the locals, as stated in the article. But it does not matter. Europeans attempting to settle a country with other people living in the place, with the intention of taking the land and creating a colony are the aggressors. Why can't you understand that?
.Also, in the examples of Arabs massacring Jews that I have provided, can you show me where it says they were defending themselves?
They came from Europe to take the land for themselves. There were no massacres, just defending their land from Europeans.
Were the Zionists not planning to to establish a state in Palestine?
Were the Zionists not planning to to establish a state in Palestine?
Like the British promised them, yes.
Your point ?
You are basically saying that because of this, all Jews were targets.
Because the British were the successors of the war and could do whatever they want with it. Do you think that it was the only time land was partition post war ??,Were the Zionists not planning to to establish a state in Palestine?
Like the British promised them, yes.
Your point ?
You are basically saying that because of this, all Jews were targets.
How could the British promise land in the Middle East that others were living on to Europeans? That is insane.
"When asked if that means a Palestinian state will not be established if he is elected, Netanyahu said "indeed."
Fox News no less!
Netanyahu trailing in polls promises no Palestinian state if elected Fox News
No use arguing with two Israel ass-kissing idiots......
Mohammed turned on the Jewish tribes in Median because ....for just a bit of money....they betrayed Mohammed and opened the gates of the city to enemies of Mohammed's own people.....
Secondly, the Hebron Massacre was sparked by rumors that some Jews had blown up a Mosque in Jerusalem.....Sad occurence, no doubt. But, Muslims did not just wake up one day and decided to kill Jews....As a matter of fact, many Muslims sheltered Jews and avoided further killings.
Were the Zionists not planning to to establish a state in Palestine?
Like the British promised them, yes.
Your point ?
You are basically saying that because of this, all Jews were targets.
How could the British promise land in the Middle East that others were living on to Europeans? That is insane.
I only post fact Toast, you know that. Fact is not propaganda.
I only post text from official documents from governmental or academic archives to support my claims. If my claims are contradicted by the official facts, I want to know.
I found it Toast.
"Petitions sent by locals to the Ottoman sultan in Istanbul reveal the complexity of early encounters between local villagers and new European immigrants."
"As in so many incidents that enfolded in the early years of Zionism, often researchers have only had access to the version of events written by the Jewish side. At times, one could find another narrative – the official account of events as recorded by the local Ottoman administration. Still, a new document referring to the Zarnuka incident was discovered recently by researcher Yuval Ben Bassat, in the Istanbul Archives, a petition written to Sultan Mehmet V by heads of families in the area....The petitioners present themselves as, "We, the residents of villages neighboring with the Jewish colonies of Daran [Rehovot] and Lun Kara (Rishon Leztion)," and complain that the Jews "wanted to strip the camel owner of their clothes, money and camels, but these men refused to give their camels and escaped from Lun Kara with their camels, protecting each other [to seek refuge with] men of the law… The above mentioned Jews attacked our villages, robbed and looted our property, killed and even damaged the family honor, all this in a manner we find hard to put in words."
New documents reveal early Palestinian attitudes toward Zionist settlements - Israel News Haaretz
What year did these alleged attacks take place ?
Turn of the 20th century...approximately 1912-15...and skip the "alleged" adjective.
Well, Toast when were the Ottomans in charge. It certainly wasn't after WW1, was it.
Since you have only had propaganda to relate to, the end of the article tells it all:
"This is the first time we see how they describe things from their point of view, "Ben Bassat says." It's not a matter of being for or against Zionism – it simply shows how complex this meeting was, and that can't be learned anywhere else."
New documents reveal early Palestinian attitudes toward Zionist settlements - Israel News Haaretz
Well, Toast when were the Ottomans in charge. It certainly wasn't after WW1, was it.
Yes I know when the Ottoman empire collapsed, but it does not say anywhere in the article that was when the attacks occured. Either way, Arabs have killed Jews before the 1900's, which precedes your example.
Well the Europeans killed the locals first, but it doesn't really matter. Locals are simply defending themselves from colonizers can't you understand that basic concept? Even if the local people killed the European colonizers first, they had every right to do so. Just as the Native Americans had the same right.
What propaganda are you talking about Monti ? It seems that whenever I provide you with facts that you don't like, you accuse me of posting propaganda.Since you have only had propaganda to relate to, the end of the article tells it all:
"This is the first time we see how they describe things from their point of view, "Ben Bassat says." It's not a matter of being for or against Zionism – it simply shows how complex this meeting was, and that can't be learned anywhere else."
New documents reveal early Palestinian attitudes toward Zionist settlements - Israel News Haaretz
The fact STILL remains that the first documented massacre was of Arabs killing Jews. Deal with it
The first documented killing was of the Europeans killing the locals, as stated in the article. But it does not matter. Europeans attempting to settle a country with other people living in the place, with the intention of taking the land and creating a colony are the aggressors. Why can't you understand that?