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The Origin of the Palestine-Israel Conflict

The synopsis of a much longer article (below) was written by Jews who felt compelled to expose the Zionist agenda that has caused so much bloodshed in the former Palestine.


The standard Zionist position is that they showed up in Palestine in the late 19th century to reclaim their ancestral homeland. Jews bought land and started building up the Jewish community there. They were met with increasingly violent opposition from the Palestinian Arabs, presumably stemming from the Arabs’ inherent anti-Semitism. The Zionists were then forced to defend themselves and, in one form or another, this same situation continues up to today.

The problem with this explanation is that it is simply not true. What really happened was that the Zionist movement, from the beginning, looked forward to a practically complete dispossession of the indigenous Arab population so that Israel could be a wholly Jewish state, or as much as was possible. Land bought by the Jewish National Fund was held in the name of the Jewish people and could never be sold or even leased back to Arabs (a situation which continues to the present).

The Arab community, as it became increasingly aware of the Zionists’ intentions, strenuously opposed further Jewish immigration and land buying because it posed a real and imminent danger to the very existence of Arab society in Palestine. Because of this opposition, the entire Zionist project never could have been realized without the military backing of the British. The vast majority of the population of Palestine, by the way, had been Arabic since the seventh century A.D. (Over 1200 years)

In short, Zionism was based on a faulty, colonialist world view that the rights of the indigenous inhabitants didn’t matter. The Arabs’ opposition to Zionism wasn’t based on anti-Semitism but rather on a totally reasonable fear of the dispossession of their people.

One further point: being Jewish ourselves, the position we present here is critical of Zionism but is in no way anti-Semitic. We do not believe that the Jews acted worse than any other group might have acted in their situation. The Zionists (who were a distinct minority of the Jewish people until after WWII) had an understandable desire to establish a place where Jews could be masters of their own fate, given the bleak history of Jewish oppression. Especially as the danger to European Jewry crystalized in the late 1930’s and after, the actions of the Zionists were propelled by real desperation.

But so were the actions of the Arabs. The mythic “land without people for a people without land” was already home to 700,000 Palestinians in 1919. This is the root of the problem.
 
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Maybe it was too much to read......???
 
Maybe it was too much to read......???

Just fact. Jews came from Europe and dispossessed the local inhabitants of their land. Unless you believe the Jews had a right to dispossess the Christians and Muslims of their land and evict them, because the Jewish God said so, there isn't any justification for the dispossession.
 
Maybe it was too much to read......???

Just fact. Jews came from Europe and dispossessed the local inhabitants of their land. Unless you believe the Jews had a right to dispossess the Christians and Muslims of their land and evict them, because the Jewish God said so, there isn't any justification for the dispossession.

Actually, Jews came to the region and were attacked/massacred several times. Then after declaring independence, 5 Arab states and Palestinian militias surrounded the new state and attacked her with the intention of destroying her. Only then when the Jews managed to get on the offensive did they expel Palestinians, who were trying to expel the Jews.
Actions have consequences.
 
The Origin of the Palestine-Israel Conflict

The synopsis of a much longer article (below) was written by Jews who felt compelled to expose the Zionist agenda that has caused so much bloodshed in the former Palestine.


The standard Zionist position is that they showed up in Palestine in the late 19th century to reclaim their ancestral homeland. Jews bought land and started building up the Jewish community there. They were met with increasingly violent opposition from the Palestinian Arabs, presumably stemming from the Arabs’ inherent anti-Semitism. The Zionists were then forced to defend themselves and, in one form or another, this same situation continues up to today.

The problem with this explanation is that it is simply not true. What really happened was that the Zionist movement, from the beginning, looked forward to a practically complete dispossession of the indigenous Arab population so that Israel could be a wholly Jewish state, or as much as was possible. Land bought by the Jewish National Fund was held in the name of the Jewish people and could never be sold or even leased back to Arabs (a situation which continues to the present).

The Arab community, as it became increasingly aware of the Zionists’ intentions, strenuously opposed further Jewish immigration and land buying because it posed a real and imminent danger to the very existence of Arab society in Palestine. Because of this opposition, the entire Zionist project never could have been realized without the military backing of the British. The vast majority of the population of Palestine, by the way, had been Arabic since the seventh century A.D. (Over 1200 years)

In short, Zionism was based on a faulty, colonialist world view that the rights of the indigenous inhabitants didn’t matter. The Arabs’ opposition to Zionism wasn’t based on anti-Semitism but rather on a totally reasonable fear of the dispossession of their people.

One further point: being Jewish ourselves, the position we present here is critical of Zionism but is in no way anti-Semitic. We do not believe that the Jews acted worse than any other group might have acted in their situation. The Zionists (who were a distinct minority of the Jewish people until after WWII) had an understandable desire to establish a place where Jews could be masters of their own fate, given the bleak history of Jewish oppression. Especially as the danger to European Jewry crystalized in the late 1930’s and after, the actions of the Zionists were propelled by real desperation.

But so were the actions of the Arabs. The mythic “land without people for a people without land” was already home to 700,000 Palestinians in 1919. This is the root of the problem.






Biggest load of crap ever, read their end times story and see exactly what they believe
 
Maybe it was too much to read......???

Just fact. Jews came from Europe and dispossessed the local inhabitants of their land. Unless you believe the Jews had a right to dispossess the Christians and Muslims of their land and evict them, because the Jewish God said so, there isn't any justification for the dispossession.





EVIDENCE TO PROVE YOUR FANTASY as the Jews were invited and given the land by the legal owners. Nothing to do with any God all to do with man. And your God gave you the world and told you to kill the unbelievers didn't he
 
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Biggest load of crap ever, read their end times story and see exactly what they believe


Sorry, I should have written that the article was meant for those people who DO NOT have reading comprehension.....THAT would have prevented you from having to read that "load of crap".....
 
Maybe it was too much to read......???

Just fact. Jews came from Europe and dispossessed the local inhabitants of their land. Unless you believe the Jews had a right to dispossess the Christians and Muslims of their land and evict them, because the Jewish God said so, there isn't any justification for the dispossession.





EVIDENCE TO PROVE YOUR FANTASY as the Jews were invited and given the land by the legal owners. Nothing to do with any God all to do with man. And your God gave you the world and told you to kill the unbelievers didn't he

Jews were not invited and were never given land by the legal owners. You just make things up, as usual.
 
Here's an interesting clip/blog regarding the "land" that Palestinians now have left in a place that once was called Palestine......ironic, isn't it.

Israel Takes Away 44 of Gaza Land ... Herds Gazans Into Remaining Area Washington s Blog

This narrow strip of land that used to be called “the Gaza Strip,” already one of the more densely populated places on earth, is growing dramatically smaller. The Israeli military, relentlessly and methodically, is driving people out of the three-kilometer (1.8 mile) buffer zone it says it needs to protect against Hamas rockets and tunnels. According to the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs, the buffer zone eats up about 44 percent of Gaza’s territory.

It’s not like Israel didn’t plan this. It told tens of thousands of Palestinians to flee so its air force, artillery and tanks could create this uninhabitable no-man’s land of half standing, burned-out buildings, broken concrete and twisted metal. During a brief humanitarian ceasefire some Gazans were able to come back to get their first glimpse of the destruction this war has brought to their communities, and to sift through their demolished homes to gather clothes or other scattered bits of their past lives. But many were not even able to do that.
 
Actually, Jews came to the region and were attacked/massacred several times. Then after declaring independence, 5 Arab states and Palestinian militias surrounded the new state and attacked her with the intention of destroying her. Only then when the Jews managed to get on the offensive did they expel Palestinians, who were trying to expel the Jews.
Actions have consequences.

I think this revisionist history is almost exactly what was reported by settlers in the Dakotas about the Sioux.....
 
The Origin of the Palestine-Israel Conflict

The synopsis of a much longer article (below) was written by Jews who felt compelled to expose the Zionist agenda that has caused so much bloodshed in the former Palestine.


The standard Zionist position is that they showed up in Palestine in the late 19th century to reclaim their ancestral homeland. Jews bought land and started building up the Jewish community there. They were met with increasingly violent opposition from the Palestinian Arabs, presumably stemming from the Arabs’ inherent anti-Semitism. The Zionists were then forced to defend themselves and, in one form or another, this same situation continues up to today.

The problem with this explanation is that it is simply not true. What really happened was that the Zionist movement, from the beginning, looked forward to a practically complete dispossession of the indigenous Arab population so that Israel could be a wholly Jewish state, or as much as was possible. Land bought by the Jewish National Fund was held in the name of the Jewish people and could never be sold or even leased back to Arabs (a situation which continues to the present).

The Arab community, as it became increasingly aware of the Zionists’ intentions, strenuously opposed further Jewish immigration and land buying because it posed a real and imminent danger to the very existence of Arab society in Palestine. Because of this opposition, the entire Zionist project never could have been realized without the military backing of the British. The vast majority of the population of Palestine, by the way, had been Arabic since the seventh century A.D. (Over 1200 years)

In short, Zionism was based on a faulty, colonialist world view that the rights of the indigenous inhabitants didn’t matter. The Arabs’ opposition to Zionism wasn’t based on anti-Semitism but rather on a totally reasonable fear of the dispossession of their people.

One further point: being Jewish ourselves, the position we present here is critical of Zionism but is in no way anti-Semitic. We do not believe that the Jews acted worse than any other group might have acted in their situation. The Zionists (who were a distinct minority of the Jewish people until after WWII) had an understandable desire to establish a place where Jews could be masters of their own fate, given the bleak history of Jewish oppression. Especially as the danger to European Jewry crystalized in the late 1930’s and after, the actions of the Zionists were propelled by real desperation.

But so were the actions of the Arabs. The mythic “land without people for a people without land” was already home to 700,000 Palestinians in 1919. This is the root of the problem.
Great site you are using there, Natty Boy.

http://www.think-israel.org/waltzer.alisonweir.html
 
Great site you are using there, Natty Boy.


You don't like the source, the content or you don't like the fact that the article disagrees with what you faithfully "learn" from FOX?
Did anyone ever say that I watched FOX? I thought you were the one watching it. Are we supposed to believe an anti-Zionist Leftist Jew who would like to see the Israeli Jews roll over for the Arabs. You and those who think like you do can lap up every word which comes from her site. Please excuse me and others if we don't fall for what that site says.
 
Did anyone ever say that I watched FOX? I thought you were the one watching it. Are we supposed to believe an anti-Zionist Leftist Jew who would like to see the Israeli Jews roll over for the Arabs. You and those who think like you do can lap up every word which comes from her site. Please excuse me and others if we don't fall for what that site says.

You don't have to "fall" for anything Weir states.....The article was intended for less hate filled people who ALSO want to hear a different side of the story ....you know, the NON-Zionist, less Nazi-like point of view?
You and other dingbats choose to listen to just one side....the side that fits your biases , the side where you don't have to think on your own...the side that lets you just go on and hate and wallow in your own bile......

As for me......well, I'm happy to share the "other" side for more open-minded, intelligent folks.
 
Did anyone ever say that I watched FOX? I thought you were the one watching it. Are we supposed to believe an anti-Zionist Leftist Jew who would like to see the Israeli Jews roll over for the Arabs. You and those who think like you do can lap up every word which comes from her site. Please excuse me and others if we don't fall for what that site says.

You don't have to "fall" for anything Weir states.....The article was intended for less hate filled people who ALSO want to hear a different side of the story ....you know, the NON-Zionist, less Nazi-like point of view?
You and other dingbats choose to listen to just one side....the side that fits your biases , the side where you don't have to think on your own...the side that lets you just go on and hate and wallow in your own bile......

As for me......well, I'm happy to share the "other" side for more open-minded, intelligent folks.
Have you ever thought that we have heard "the other side" many times before? Of course you have no interest in what is going on in the rest of the Middle East becaise anti-Zionist Leftist Jews like Allison Weir are not interested about what else is going on so they don't have anything to say on their sites?
 
Have you ever thought that we have heard "the other side" many times before? Of course you have no interest in what is going on in the rest of the Middle East becaise anti-Zionist Leftist Jews like Allison Weir are not interested about what else is going on so they don't have anything to say on their sites?


Like I stated....whatever Weir writes is NOT for you.....but others, less biased may want to read what she and many others write or openly speak about......That is still allowed in the Zionist world, no, or have they've gone full Nazi on us?
 
Have you ever thought that we have heard "the other side" many times before? Of course you have no interest in what is going on in the rest of the Middle East becaise anti-Zionist Leftist Jews like Allison Weir are not interested about what else is going on so they don't have anything to say on their sites?


Like I stated....whatever Weir writes is NOT for you.....but others, less biased may want to read what she and many others write or openly speak about......That is still allowed in the Zionist world, no, or have they've gone full Nazi on us?
Weir is simply a deranged kook. So stop humping my leg.
 

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