Coloradomtnman
Rational and proud of it.
Holy shit! You are one crazy-ass mothafucka, f8fbearcat. I think its time we took you somewhere you can take a long, long rest.
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Holy shit! You are one crazy-ass mothafucka, f8fbearcat. I think its time we took you somewhere you can take a long, long rest.
Define "acting right".
About a week ago I went to a motivational seminar where a rich white dude told us about how he was a white water raft tour guide when he got back from NAM. He said he made $5k a year doing it and hated rich people. These investment brokers took a liking to him and took him under their wing and taught him how to invest.
This is the good old boys network. Being white most likely helped him. If he was black, he wouldn't have gotten the opportunity.
So a lot of rich people don't realize how lucky they got, right place at the right time. And they don't realize how unfair life can be for people who aren't white and don't have the connections.
It could have been another tour guide that day. Without that break, he'd be a broke ass to this day. He admitted that he came from blue collar and without their help, he would have never made it to where he is today.
That's why Affirmative Action was needed. It forced white people to start acting right.
And today we have black ceo's of fortune 500 companies. It would have taken decades longer without AA.
PS. The other lesson is that we should always be looking to give someone help. We look for people who can help us. Don't forget the people beneath you. I think this is something a lot of right wingers forget.
]Both Coloradodumbbutt and sillybooboo are complete and utter idiots for thinking that blacks connot be racist. No wonder the US is in the shit hole it's in with ignorant fucks like these two clowns running around.
Thankfully the republicans will regain the house in 2012.
Newsflash you partisan kiddos, most politicians are corrupt, hypocritical, and bigoted. But it's funny though how the Democrats that yell that Republicans are racist, won't say a damn thing about their own racists. But oh well !
I'm just sick of hearing people with class priviledge assuming that all whites have their same class priviledge, when it's not true. Of course their concern for the disadvantaged is color based and racist in and of itself.
Sealy, the "Good ol' Boy" network only works if you're economically priviledged. People like you mistake racial priviledge for economic priviledge. But then again, people who do make these mistakens, aren't poor whites. But then again, the vast majority of poor whites and poor white cultural minorities will laugh our asses off at these claims of "White Priviledge".
and see the conversation between a black man and a white senator, he calls her a racist right to her face. And she is..... She is also a liberal democrat.
Who are our racists? Are you talking about blacks that hate whites? BFD.
They don't have the power.
We're talking about the have's keeping the have not's down.
Chances are if we were in private, you'd admit that there is a good old boy system that favors whites and you like it because you are white and you think it benefits you.
I'll explain why it doesn't. Because they divide and concur us
First they do that to blacks, eventually you'll fall into a category that gets discriminated against.
Eventually it all has to do with wealth. And since you are broke, you should be defending the minorities.
Anyways, I think its funny you guys want to flip it so we are the racist party.
The only problem is that black people have to deal with poor and middle class racism when you broke asses should be helping your fellow broke ass brotha's.
That's because you are too dumb to take advantage of it. Or, you never got lucky. You weren't in the right place at the right time? Or, maybe you suck and are lazy.
The guy who motivated us last week was just like you. But, the stock brokers who gave him his first break did so because they liked him. Last week we were talking about how a lot of successful people got lucky. And people got sooo mad that I suggested it. But its true. Ask any rich guy his story and either he will tell you about his first big break, or he'll tell you about his daddy's mney.
So all across America, white people are in the position to help their friends and families out.
[Black people need (ed) Affirmative Action because they weren't getting these breaks. Not enough blacks in positions to make a difference.
/QUOTE]
ALL poor people deserve Affirmitive Action, anyone who is middle class or higher, regardless of their race, doesn't deserve Affirmitive Action. That's another way that liberals have pitted poor whites vs. poor minorities. In my state I am covered by Affirmitive Action, and I don't know wether or not that has helped me, I hope not. I'd rather get it on my own than get it for being what I am.
Not enough whites are "acting right" yet. Just based on this thread that is true. Ignorant.
Look in the mirror. You're just as ignorant as anyone else. You're the typical middleclass, priviledged, ignorant liberal. Why do you think your kind aren't welcome in our communities ? We hate your kind above anyone else. You're the kind that does the most active discrimination against us. Telling someone that has lived in general poverty and worked like a dog to get what little they have that they have all this "priviledge". When all of their lives they got shitted on for not having your priviledge. Honestly ? That's why we hate your kind so much.
and see the conversation between a black man and a white senator, he calls her a racist right to her face. And she is..... She is also a liberal democrat.
Anytime you disagree with a black person you're a "racist". Most folks just roll their eyes and ignore the rest. Whats' really to listen too beyond that ?
Do you agree with black people everytime you hear them cry racism?
No. 90% of the time I've heard it my life, it's been bullshit. lol Hell I was called a racist the other day for not mourning Micheal Jackson. I responded with "I don't give a fuck what color a child molester is!" and that shut the idiot down quickly.
Who are our racists? Are you talking about blacks that hate whites? BFD.
Pretty much every black Democrat is a racist. And they have the power and wealth to be racist. But that's ok because they're not white Republicans ?
They don't have the power.
Any black congreesman has more power than every single poor white in the US. Simple as th at. So therefore his/her racism is important and it can affect people.
So am I. But liberals don't like to talk about poor whites. Unless they want us to die for their cause like in the late 19th and the first half of the 20th century. Y'all seem to forget that it was our blood that earned labor rights. Not yall's middle class priviledged blood. Now we're dirt and "priviledged" to yall now that yall ain't got no use for us any longer. Just like yall used your priviledge in the 60's to get out of having to go to Vietnam.
No, I'd say there's a system that favors uppermiddleclass and upper class whites. And I'd also call you an ignorant middleclass liberal for thinking that I've gotten any white priviledge in my life I made what I made of myself of my own doing. Being poor white, and on top of that a white cultural minority that is despised in society, I have had NO white priviledge. I have known no rich whites, nor had I had any social access to them. My culture, dialect, accent, socioeconomic status and religious beliefs pretty much made me an alien to them and they to me. So don't project your experience upon me. It doesn't fit for every white person.
"Us"? There's no "us". I'm an Appalachian and you're a middle class American. Other than citizenship and some shared cultural values, we're different people. With different historical and social experiences. YOU divide the poor. You turn poor racial minorities against poor whites and white cultural minorities. Why would we ever allign ourselves with liberals ? Yall forgot about us once we were done dying for your cause, and then you went and embraced the black man and demonized us as the cause of all the social problems in America.
I already am. Just because I have the same skin color as you , doesn't mean I have the same social experiences. I have a vastly different accent, different dialect, different culture, different religious beliefs and different socioeconomic status. We're not at all the same really.
I am a minority, but I only support my people. Why should I support a group that isn't exactly friendly socially or politically with us ? Why should I support people that steal govt. resources from my community to get pissed away on other minorities ? Why should I support others that won't support us ? Especially when the political and community leadership of other minority groups support positions that further disenfranchise us or take much needed federal funding out of our communities ? Or further ideas that're outright offensive to us and degrading ? That'd be like Israel supporting Nazi Germany.
I'm not a Rep or a Dem, why would I support either party ? Both "hate" me. I have beliefs of both parties and beliefs that both parties don't have. I just get kind of irritated at Democrats who act "holier than thou". Or downplay and dismiss the samething their party does that they attack the other for, that goes for both parties.
lol Why should I help blacks ? Like they've ever done anything to help us. They were scabs in the Union Wars, their political and community leadership is outright offensive and degrading towards us. They get enough funding, they get enough as it is. Now we want a peice of that pie.
lol @ This ignorant liberal. Too dumb ? I got a college degree and a diploma, not too dumb there huh ? Never got lucky ? Yeah like the luck you got by being born into class priviledge ? I suck and I'm lazy ? That's why I've worked atleast one fulltime job from when I was 12 years old until this very day, where I work one fulltime and one parttime job. Yeah that's lazy and stupid for ya.
rofl You just so backed up what I was saying earlier. Ty for making my arguement for me, it's so much easier that way.
lol Really ? Ain't noone in a position I know to help me out but me. You know who put me through college ? The government and my hardwork and years of saving. You know who got me my jobs ? Me through earning experience in my fields and going to college. Also being 28 with 16 years of work experience looks pretty damn good. I got past the handicap of my accent and dialect and made up for it in other areas, it's called hard work and dedication.
[Black people need (ed) Affirmative Action because they weren't getting these breaks. Not enough blacks in positions to make a difference.
/QUOTE]
ALL poor people deserve Affirmitive Action, anyone who is middle class or higher, regardless of their race, doesn't deserve Affirmitive Action. That's another way that liberals have pitted poor whites vs. poor minorities. In my state I am covered by Affirmitive Action, and I don't know wether or not that has helped me, I hope not. I'd rather get it on my own than get it for being what I am.
Look in the mirror. You're just as ignorant as anyone else. You're the typical middleclass, priviledged, ignorant liberal. Why do you think your kind aren't welcome in our communities ? We hate your kind above anyone else. You're the kind that does the most active discrimination against us. Telling someone that has lived in general poverty and worked like a dog to get what little they have that they have all this "priviledge". When all of their lives they got shitted on for not having your priviledge. Honestly ? That's why we hate your kind so much.
Anytime you disagree with a black person you're a "racist". Most folks just roll their eyes and ignore the rest. Whats' really to listen too beyond that ?
Do you agree with black people everytime you hear them cry racism?
No. 90% of the time I've heard it my life, it's been bullshit. lol Hell I was called a racist the other day for not mourning Micheal Jackson. I responded with "I don't give a fuck what color a child molester is!" and that shut the idiot down quickly.
Are you asian, jewish or hispanic? I'm curious. I disagree with most of what you say by the way.
I'm Appalachian from a background of generational poverty and an economic refugee. And I already know you will disagree, but that's because of our differing cultural and socioeconomic backgrounds.
It is so funny to argue with you guys all day and then later at night watch the Daily Show and see that you clearly have been given a message or montra to go out and sell to the American people.
You right wingers sure are organized. For sure you are all on topic.
Yea, the poor white middle class men of America. Being discriminated against. Boo hoo. Que the violin.
You want FREEDOM to discriminate?