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It can "be done" to free speech, property rights and any other part of the "Bill of Rights" is the government is crooked enough and the people remain stupid and compliant.
Socialist do gliders are idiots. Look in a mirror idiot.By Dennis A. Henigan
The American people can overcome the gun lobby, but only if we confront, and expose, three myths that have long dominated the gun debate and given the politicians a ready excuse for inaction.
First, we must not let the opponents of reform get away with the empty bromide that "guns don't kill people, people kill people." Does any rational person really believe that the Sandy Hook killer could have murdered twenty-seven people in minutes with a knife or a baseball bat? Guns enable people to kill, more effectively and efficiently than any other widely available weapon.
Second, we must challenge the idea that no law can prevent violent people from getting guns. This canard is refuted by the experience of every other western industrialized nation. Their violent crime rates are comparable to ours. But their homicide rates are exponentially lower because their strong gun laws make it harder for violent individuals to get guns.
Third, we must not accept the notion that our Constitution condemns us to the continued slaughter of our children. It is true that the Supreme Court has expanded gun rights in recent years; it is equally true that the Court has insisted that the right allows for reasonable restrictions. In his opinion in the Heller Second Amendment case, Justice Scalia listed restrictions on "dangerous and unusual weapons" among the kinds of gun laws that are still "presumptively lawful." Assault weapons that fire scores of rounds without reloading surely are "dangerous and unusual."
The tobacco control movement overcame some equally powerful mythology to fundamentally alter American attitudes toward tobacco products. The tobacco industry's effort to sow confusion and uncertainty about the link between smoking and disease eventually was exposed as a fraud. The entrenched view that smoking was simply a bad habit that individuals can choose to break was destroyed by evidence that the tobacco companies knew that nicotine was powerfully addictive and engineered their cigarettes to ensure that people got hooked and stayed hooked. The assumption that smoking harms only the smoker was contradicted by the overwhelming evidence of the danger of second-hand smoke.
Once these myths were exposed, attitudes changed, policies changed and we started saving countless lives. Since youth smoking peaked in the mid-1990s, smoking rates have fallen by about three-fourths among 8th graders, two-thirds among 10th graders and half among 12th graders. A sea change has occurred on the tobacco issue.
Similarly fundamental change can come to the gun issue as well. The myths about gun control, however, still have a hold on too many of our political leaders and their constituents. We will hear them repeated again and again in the coming weeks of intense debate. Every time we hear them, we must respond and we must persuade.
There is too much at stake to be silent.
More: Dennis A. Henigan: It Was Done on Tobacco. It Can Be Done on Guns
You need to be.Hardcore NRA wingnuts need to be thinking about two words: "Compromise" and "Consensus"...
You cannot compromise with people you have nothing in common with. You cannot compromise when two party's have different goals.
Let's give it a try.
If the citizen must lose some if not all of their rights to a firearm the government must also be disarmed including obama's secret service guards.
Are you on mental medication...?
Socialist do gliders are idiots. Look in a mirror idiot.By Dennis A. Henigan
The American people can overcome the gun lobby, but only if we confront, and expose, three myths that have long dominated the gun debate and given the politicians a ready excuse for inaction.
First, we must not let the opponents of reform get away with the empty bromide that "guns don't kill people, people kill people." Does any rational person really believe that the Sandy Hook killer could have murdered twenty-seven people in minutes with a knife or a baseball bat? Guns enable people to kill, more effectively and efficiently than any other widely available weapon.
Second, we must challenge the idea that no law can prevent violent people from getting guns. This canard is refuted by the experience of every other western industrialized nation. Their violent crime rates are comparable to ours. But their homicide rates are exponentially lower because their strong gun laws make it harder for violent individuals to get guns.
Third, we must not accept the notion that our Constitution condemns us to the continued slaughter of our children. It is true that the Supreme Court has expanded gun rights in recent years; it is equally true that the Court has insisted that the right allows for reasonable restrictions. In his opinion in the Heller Second Amendment case, Justice Scalia listed restrictions on "dangerous and unusual weapons" among the kinds of gun laws that are still "presumptively lawful." Assault weapons that fire scores of rounds without reloading surely are "dangerous and unusual."
The tobacco control movement overcame some equally powerful mythology to fundamentally alter American attitudes toward tobacco products. The tobacco industry's effort to sow confusion and uncertainty about the link between smoking and disease eventually was exposed as a fraud. The entrenched view that smoking was simply a bad habit that individuals can choose to break was destroyed by evidence that the tobacco companies knew that nicotine was powerfully addictive and engineered their cigarettes to ensure that people got hooked and stayed hooked. The assumption that smoking harms only the smoker was contradicted by the overwhelming evidence of the danger of second-hand smoke.
Once these myths were exposed, attitudes changed, policies changed and we started saving countless lives. Since youth smoking peaked in the mid-1990s, smoking rates have fallen by about three-fourths among 8th graders, two-thirds among 10th graders and half among 12th graders. A sea change has occurred on the tobacco issue.
Similarly fundamental change can come to the gun issue as well. The myths about gun control, however, still have a hold on too many of our political leaders and their constituents. We will hear them repeated again and again in the coming weeks of intense debate. Every time we hear them, we must respond and we must persuade.
There is too much at stake to be silent.
More: Dennis A. Henigan: It Was Done on Tobacco. It Can Be Done on Guns
The 16th and 17th need to go firstIt can "be done" to free speech, property rights and any other part of the "Bill of Rights" is the government is crooked enough and the people remain stupid and compliant.
"the people" certainly have a right to attempt to repeal any amendment to the COTUS they wish. Perhaps a repeal of the 13th,14th, and 15th amendments is in order, maybe the 19th as well.
The 16th and 17th need to go firstIt can "be done" to free speech, property rights and any other part of the "Bill of Rights" is the government is crooked enough and the people remain stupid and compliant.
"the people" certainly have a right to attempt to repeal any amendment to the COTUS they wish. Perhaps a repeal of the 13th,14th, and 15th amendments is in order, maybe the 19th as well.
=======================I missed that part in the 2nd Amendment where it says that Individuals have the Right To Bear Cigarettes.
Where is that?
Amending the second amendment will be the only way of giving the 1% of America all the power and all the money.Hardcore NRA wingnuts need to be thinking about two words: "Compromise" and "Consensus"...
Hardcore NRA wingnuts need to be thinking about two words: "Compromise" and "Consensus"...
You cannot compromise with people you have nothing in common with. You cannot compromise when two party's have different goals.
Let's give it a try.
If the citizen must lose some if not all of their rights to a firearm the government must also be disarmed including obama's secret service guards.
Are you on mental medication...?
Then get the constitution amended and STFU.
Good luck.
Then get the constitution amended and STFU.
Good luck.
We don't need to amend the constitution. Just get sane SCOTUS members.
Since the GOP will never elect another president, it's only a matter of time before someone notices, 'Oh, yeah, WELL-REGULATED MILITIA"
In the meantime, lots of stuff we can do.
Require biometric triggers so only the owner can fire it on new guns. It'll run the cost of a gun up to a point where they'd be unaffordable, but that's fine.
Repeal the law that exempts gun sellers/manufacturers from liability for the death and injury caused by their products.
Require all gun owners to carry insurance.
Hardcore NRA wingnuts need to be thinking about two words: "Compromise" and "Consensus"...
There are millions of assault weopons out there. So we are not going to go house to house to get them off of the streets. Here is how it can be done.
1. A law that requires you to have the same license for an assault rifle as for a fully automatic gun. If you are caught outside your home with said weopon, the weopon is confiscated and destroyed, and you face jail time, and have a felony offense on your record.
Should you sell or give that gun to someone that does not have said license, it is a felony offense for both of you.
2. If you store your guns, of any type, irresponsibly, and someone takes them and commits a crime with them, you own the crime.
There are millions of assault weopons out there. So we are not going to go house to house to get them off of the streets. Here is how it can be done.
1. A law that requires you to have the same license for an assault rifle as for a fully automatic gun. If you are caught outside your home with said weopon, the weopon is confiscated and destroyed, and you face jail time, and have a felony offense on your record.
Should you sell or give that gun to someone that does not have said license, it is a felony offense for both of you.
2. If you store your guns, of any type, irresponsibly, and someone takes them and commits a crime with them, you own the crime.
Hardcore NRA wingnuts need to be thinking about two words: "Compromise" and "Consensus"...
When it comes to the Constitution there is no such thing as "Compromise" and "Consensus".
Sure there is. Even the original Constitution was built on compromise and consensus.
There are recognized limits on free speech--the first amendment isn't seen as absolute.
Guns don't kill people. People kill people. The problem is with the people. Not the guns.
A gun is an inanimate object unless someone loads it and pulls the trigger. People kill people.
Perhaps we should cull the population of all gang bangers, nut cases and known murderers?? Perhaps canvas the population to see just who MIGHT use a gun?? I can hear the ACLU screaming like a stuck pig even now.
Once again guns don't kill people. People kill people and unfortunately we have loads of those people in this country who wouldn't think twice about killing someone.
Think I'll hang onto my gun per the 2nd Ammendment and Shitting Bull can get his/her ass capped when someone breaks into his/her house. Its only fair.
Well unless you can track the gun to the failed Fast and Furious operations. Then it's all the Presidents fault right?
Nope. Holder runs Justice. His Department okayed FF. He should be held responsible. He won't though because that fuck in the WH declared EP, National Security and the whole thing was swept under the rug. Nothing like covering the ass of his best ass kissin buddy Holder.
Okay Holder, not the guy with the gun who did the shooting?
Two killed in a mall in Oregon with an AR. 27 killed in a school in Conneticut with an AR. Three wounded in Alabama with an AK.
Yes, the assault weopons are the weopon of choice for the crazies. And the NRA arms the crazies. Time to get these weopons of war off of our streets.
SCOTUS will eventually reinterpret this...
America has a strong (socialist) standing army. There is no longer need for "militia" as stated in the Second Amendment.
scotus said the right to bear arms is an individual right.
Bingo. The Constitution specifies Rights for Individuals, and Limited Powers for the Government.
Not quite, the COTUS protects rights from government infringement, it does NOT specify rights.
Scuze me, but I think you need to read it.
Certain rights are specified, and the IXth Amendment has an ominbus aspect that covers other rights:
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Hardcore NRA wingnuts need to be thinking about two words: "Compromise" and "Consensus"...
And you need to think about the only way to get guns away from the people and that's repealing the second amendment.
Good luck with that.
