It appears Obamacare is working

[candycorn]

Could you define what you mean by "working?"

Consider the first word is affordable, is that working?

My assistant has a special needs child.
In a few years, the child will be over 18.
At that time, without the ACA, my assistant would have to purchase insurance out of her pocket.
Now, with the ACA, my assistant can keep the child on the company healthcare plan.
This will save her thousands of dollars per year.

???

If the company has a health insurance plan and your assistant is on that and her s/n child is covered, he can still be covered even if he's over 18.

The more likely scenario is that if you have a company health insurance plan today, due to the (un)aca the company may choose to get rid of that plan and everyone at your company will have to go find insurance elsewhere, including the woman and her child.

We just finished Open Enrollment. Sorry to burst your bubble.

 

[Synthaholic]

Guys, I'm sorry to have to keep reminding you (not really ) but dimocraps are some lying scum.

It's what they do. ALL of them.

"If you like your plan, you can keep your plan." - Barack Obama - YouTube

Obamacare didn't cancel a single policy.

 

[Synthaholic]

Guys, I'm sorry to have to keep reminding you (not really ) but dimocraps are some lying scum.

It's what they do. ALL of them.

"If you like your plan, you can keep your plan." - Barack Obama - YouTube

If you're stupid enough to believe ANYTHING a dimocrap scumbag says, then you deserve whatever befalls you.

SHOCK! Hillary Clinton argues - What difference, at this point, does it make about how it happened? - YouTube

But, then again, dimocraps are some seriously stupid fucks

Obama Bucks! - YouTube

dimocraps lie. It's what they do.

Every.Last.One.Of.Them.

Wow...such desperation

Obamacare must really be working if you have to dredge up the Obamaphone lady

Don't you mean Reaganphone?

Ring Wing Goes Crazy Over 'Obama Phones' Which Are Actually 'Reagan Phones'

 

[Synthaholic]

Obamacare was implemented to reduce the number of uninsured Americans. A 4% drop is significant given that the program just started

Like it or not, Obamacare is here to stay

Time for Republicans to start calling it ACA

YOU are a proven, known liar.

Your president is a proven, known liar.

And nothing you say matters anymore. You're done.

Watch and see in November. You can not imagine how bad the defeat is going to be.

And the ACA was DOA.

We don't have to repeal it. We haven't done jack-shit and it's falling apart. Wait until we refuse to subsidize it.

And, I mean this..... It's a shame. It was something that has been needed for quite some time.

But like EVERYTHING else you scumbags touch, you FUCKED it up.

Can it be saved?

No. You pissed too many people off.

The question now is NOT whether obamacare lives or dies. You're an idiot (a fact anyway) if you think it will survive. It will not. No way, no how.

The question now is what replaces it.

Do we go back to the clusterfuck we had before or do we go to a Single Payer Plan?

THAT is the question that needs answered, not your LIES about obamacare being here to stay.

You people lie. Everything you do is a lie. You wake up lying, and you go to bed lying. That's why I call you what you are.... The scum of the earth.

Without you, without people like you, we could have had this thing up and rolling decades ago.

But you are what you are.... scum. socialist scum, to be exact

Phear the Phred!!!

 

[Synthaholic]

The only facts we're getting is from the lying cocksucker who told us that we could keep our Health Plans if we liked them.

Who cancelled your policy, retard?

 

[Synthaholic]

And it's so popular only half the country voted for it and less than half find it favorable. Bu that doesn't matter, right?

Dick Cheney had to go to the Senate and be the tie-breaking Senate vote in order to pass the giant tax cuts to the rich.

So what's your point?

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Obama has gotten everything he wanted.

yep, he has fundamentally changed the country for the worse. His goal of bringing the USA to its knees is being realized.

More people covered for medical insurance=bringing the country to it's knees.

And you guys wonder why you have lost 5 of the last 6 popular votes?

You really should pay attention to current events.

 

[g5000]

Claims that ObamaCare is "working" are just as suspect as claims that ObamaCare is "failing".

However, it is a safe bet that ObamaCare is here to stay. The Republicans have no comprehensive replacement for it on the table. They are the party of "Repeal ObamaCare...and Then What?" That's a platform plank made of balsa wood.

By 2016, one of two things will begin to emanate from the Republican Party. You will either see a slow turn toward rhetoric about "fixes" that are needed for the ACA (they will stop calling it ObamaCare), or you will see a comprehensive replacement plan put on the table.

I will lay heavy odds you will see the former. The GOP no longer has the intellectual weight or the courage to offer workable alternative solutions to our country's problems. They have become so used to pointing out the flaws in the other guy's plans their brains and spines have turned to mush.

The only guy who has shown any guts is Paul Ryan, but not even his recently released plan has an alternative to ObamaCare in it! Just a repeal.

AND THEN WHAT!?!

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Guys, I'm sorry to have to keep reminding you (not really ) but dimocraps are some lying scum.

It's what they do. ALL of them.

"If you like your plan, you can keep your plan." - Barack Obama - YouTube

Obamacare didn't cancel a single policy.

. So that's the new lie they're pushing now? Obama and the democrats made the rules so strict that every policy had to be cancelled. Dont insult our intelligence and embarrass yourself.

 

[Synthaholic]

Lol, it's amazing what you can accomplish when you force people to comply under penalty of heavy fines. I'm sure you approve comrade.

Hmm, the claim was 47 million uninsured who couldn't afford coverage. They claim 7 million signed up at the website. Are we supposed to believe that 40 million suddenly were able to afford to contact private insurers on their own and get covered?

No, Ellie-May.

The 47 million is expected over a 4 or 5 year period, as everyone has known since Day One.

 

[Synthaholic]

Bits and pieces have been working, you won't know if the whole thing will work till all the exemptions and delays have expired, can you? Then at what price, that has yet to be determined. Insurance companies are projecting big increases.

The ACA has been working for some time. You are benefitting from it as well as I.

Exactly how am I being benefited?

Society has benefited.

It ain't about you, you, you. Damn, you are a Republican.

 

[candycorn]

Claims that ObamaCare is "working" are just as suspect as claims that ObamaCare is "failing".

However, it is a safe bet that ObamaCare is here to stay. The Republicans have no comprehensive replacement for it on the table. They are the party of "Repeal ObamaCare...and Then What?" That's a platform plank made of balsa wood.

By 2016, one of two things will begin to emanate from the Republican Party. You will either see a slow turn toward rhetoric about "fixes" that are needed for the ACA (they will stop calling it ObamaCare), or you will see a comprehensive replacement plan put on the table.

I will lay heavy odds you will see the former. The GOP no longer has the intellectual weight or the courage to offer workable alternative solutions to our country's problems. They have become so used to pointing out the flaws in the other guy's plans their brains and spines have turned to mush.

The only guy who has shown any guts is Paul Ryan, but not even his recently released plan has an alternative to ObamaCare in it! Just a repeal.

AND THEN WHAT!?!

Thanks for letting us move on from the well-made points before pointing out that the ACA is working at least in part while other portions are getting up to speed and that acceptance is just a matter of time.

Now moving on...

Do you think that the GOP candidates who recommend "fixes" instead of total annihilation run the risks of being labeled a RINO? No GOP candidate can recommend amnesty or tax increases of any kind at this point. Do you think any mere mention of modifying the ACA is a third "third rail" for a GOP contender?

 

[candycorn]

The ACA has been working for some time. You are benefitting from it as well as I.

Exactly how am I being benefited?

Society has benefited.

It ain't about you, you, you. Damn, you are a Republican.

Well, that and if/when he loses his employment and the insurance that goes along with it; his bi-polar disorder won't prevent him from getting insurance at a new insurer.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

The rw lies aren't working.

 

[dblack]

More proof ObamaCare is working - The Week

The uninsured rate fell to 15.6 percent in the first quarter of the year, according to new Gallup data released Monday — the lowest it's been since 2008. And the rate has been falling since late last year, signaling that ObamaCare is indeed having its intended effect of extending insurance to more and more people. (The scale of the y-axis overstates the slope of the trend line, but you get the idea.)

Moreover, the rate fell precipitously in March, dropping from 15.8 percent at the month's outset to 14.7 percent come April. Such a steep drop is most likely an indication that many people raced to get insured right before ObamaCare's end-of-month enrollment deadline. And indeed, the administration reported that signups spiked in the month's closing days, pushing the total enrollments to 7.1 million.

I guess it shouldn't surprise us that the metric for success for ACA, given that it was written by the insurance industry, is the level of insurance coverage. Fucking whores.

 

[Synthaholic]

This law has affected so few amount of people, the Chicken Little act is way out of proportion.

Most of the people here arguing against it are not affected in the least. They are either retired and getting Medicare and checks in the mail, or military and getting free medical and checks in the mail, or work for a company who provides insurance.

 

[Darkwind]

The ACA has been working for some time. You are benefitting from it as well as I.

Exactly how am I being benefited?

Society has benefited.

It ain't about you, you, you. Damn, you are a Republican.

Society has benefited the way a virgin man benefits from 7 years in prison....

 

[candycorn]

yep, he has fundamentally changed the country for the worse. His goal of bringing the USA to its knees is being realized.

More people covered for medical insurance=bringing the country to it's knees.

And you guys wonder why you have lost 5 of the last 6 popular votes?

You really should pay attention to current events.

I do.

The GOP will do very well in 2014 (as I have said something like 50 times). I think they hold the House and easily take the Senate.

There are more DEM seats up for grabs than there are GOP seats and the House is gerrymandered by both parties into being almost a formality every other November during the election.

Twenty-sixteen is more problematic for the GOP candidate since their party has basically painted them into a corner on taxes, immigration, and soon to be healthcare. When you're giving up 3 issues out of the gate and have no path to follow except 3 unpopular treks...it's not good for the candidate. Add that into the pronounced deficit the GOP has to start with in the Electoral College and 2016 is going to be a very close election. Obama fatigue will be a factor but I get the feeling that the candidate is going to counter-program her/him self well

 

[dblack]

This law has affected so few amount of people, the Chicken Little act is way out of proportion.

Most of the people here arguing against it are not affected in the least. They are either retired and getting Medicare and checks in the mail, or military and getting free medical and checks in the mail, or work for a company who provides insurance.

I think that's true. But that doesn't prevent us recognizing what the insurance industry is trying to pull here.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Obamacare was implemented to reduce the number of uninsured Americans. A 4% drop is significant given that the program just started

Like it or not, Obamacare is here to stay

Time for Republicans to start calling it ACA

so will it stop the situations where if you get one of them "expensive" diseases you wont have to sell the house or go bankrupt?.....just askin ....