Israel's Legal Right To Exist

[Coyote]

Thread has been a cleaned over the last day. I think it's time to remember the rules:

Foul language (profanity) will be loosely tolerated and at the moderators discretion at any time within any forum and/or sub-forum.

Posting the same cut'n'paste over and over constitutes spam - start finding some new sources or articulate what from within the source answers the argument.

We have word filters on this software, that were put there by the forum owners for a reason - please stop trying to bypass them.

When a post contains more foul language directed at a member then it does topical content, it's not going to fly.

 

[MJB12741]

Thread has been a cleaned over the last day. I think it's time to remember the rules:

Foul language (profanity) will be loosely tolerated and at the moderators discretion at any time within any forum and/or sub-forum.

Posting the same cut'n'paste over and over constitutes spam - start finding some new sources or articulate what from within the source answers the argument.

We have word filters on this software, that were put there by the forum owners for a reason - please stop trying to bypass them.

When a post contains more foul language directed at a member then it does topical content, it's not going to fly.

Agreed. Let the thread continue following the board rules as the topic is thought provoking & essential to an understanding of the root cause of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict.

 

[montelatici]

"Native Population almost wholly descended from Jews who had been forcibly converted to Christianity, and later Islam...."

Native Population almost wholly descended from Jews who had been forcibly converted

From the retard's OWN link:

"In Palestine the "small" number of Arab invaders who had been imported by the Arabian conquerors were wiped out by disease. Thus the "myth" of the "Palestinian Arab" descending "from the Arab conquerors" appears to be factually incorrect for all but perhaps a few."

"Thus, not only was Arab rule "extraordinarily short," but the "pure Arab peoples in Palestine for millennia" -- a romanticized notion discredited by serious scholars -- actually consisted of a non-Arabian, multi-ethnic procession of immirants."

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Does this retard even read her own links? This article shows that there are few, if any, native arab muslim to Israel.

Could this mongoloid possibly any less intelligent LOL? She's posting links that destroy her claims LOL, this is getting hilarious...

Of course the Palestinians are non-Arabian, that's what I have always stated. As the article states:

"Native Population almost wholly descended from Jews who had been forcibly converted to Christianity"

What's your point?

Oh now I get it. The Palestinians are Jews for Allah. Amazing what we can learn from Monte.

I see you don't understand. Let's see if I can help your reading comprehension. Palestinians practice Christianity and Islam for the most part today, so they they are not Jews. Many, if not most of their ancestors practiced Judaism at one time and were Jews until they converted to Christianity and subsequently Islam. That's what the link explains. Hope this helps.

 

[MJB12741]

"Native Population almost wholly descended from Jews who had been forcibly converted to Christianity, and later Islam...."

Native Population almost wholly descended from Jews who had been forcibly converted

From the retard's OWN link:

"In Palestine the "small" number of Arab invaders who had been imported by the Arabian conquerors were wiped out by disease. Thus the "myth" of the "Palestinian Arab" descending "from the Arab conquerors" appears to be factually incorrect for all but perhaps a few."

"Thus, not only was Arab rule "extraordinarily short," but the "pure Arab peoples in Palestine for millennia" -- a romanticized notion discredited by serious scholars -- actually consisted of a non-Arabian, multi-ethnic procession of immirants."

=============================

Does this retard even read her own links? This article shows that there are few, if any, native arab muslim to Israel.

Could this mongoloid possibly any less intelligent LOL? She's posting links that destroy her claims LOL, this is getting hilarious...

Of course the Palestinians are non-Arabian, that's what I have always stated. As the article states:

"Native Population almost wholly descended from Jews who had been forcibly converted to Christianity"

What's your point?

Oh now I get it. The Palestinians are Jews for Allah. Amazing what we can learn from Monte.

I see you don't understand. Let's see if I can help your reading comprehension. Palestinians practice Christianity and Islam for the most part today, so they they are not Jews. Many, if not most of their ancestors practiced Judaism at one time and were Jews until they converted to Christianity and subsequently Islam. That's what the link explains. Hope this helps.

Let me walk you through this. Based on what you posted, the Palestinians have a Jewish bloodline. Is that correct?

 

[montelatici]

"Native Population almost wholly descended from Jews who had been forcibly converted to Christianity, and later Islam...."

Native Population almost wholly descended from Jews who had been forcibly converted

From the retard's OWN link:

"In Palestine the "small" number of Arab invaders who had been imported by the Arabian conquerors were wiped out by disease. Thus the "myth" of the "Palestinian Arab" descending "from the Arab conquerors" appears to be factually incorrect for all but perhaps a few."

"Thus, not only was Arab rule "extraordinarily short," but the "pure Arab peoples in Palestine for millennia" -- a romanticized notion discredited by serious scholars -- actually consisted of a non-Arabian, multi-ethnic procession of immirants."

=============================

Does this retard even read her own links? This article shows that there are few, if any, native arab muslim to Israel.

Could this mongoloid possibly any less intelligent LOL? She's posting links that destroy her claims LOL, this is getting hilarious...

Of course the Palestinians are non-Arabian, that's what I have always stated. As the article states:

"Native Population almost wholly descended from Jews who had been forcibly converted to Christianity"

What's your point?

Oh now I get it. The Palestinians are Jews for Allah. Amazing what we can learn from Monte.

I see you don't understand. Let's see if I can help your reading comprehension. Palestinians practice Christianity and Islam for the most part today, so they they are not Jews. Many, if not most of their ancestors practiced Judaism at one time and were Jews until they converted to Christianity and subsequently Islam. That's what the link explains. Hope this helps.

Let me walk you through this. Based on what you posted, the Palestinians have a Jewish bloodline. Is that correct?

Many, if not most Palestinians are descendants of the inhabitants of the area that began following the teachings of Jesus Christ over the centuries after Christ. What is so strange about that? Does common sense elude you?

 

[MJB12741]

From the retard's OWN link:

"In Palestine the "small" number of Arab invaders who had been imported by the Arabian conquerors were wiped out by disease. Thus the "myth" of the "Palestinian Arab" descending "from the Arab conquerors" appears to be factually incorrect for all but perhaps a few."

"Thus, not only was Arab rule "extraordinarily short," but the "pure Arab peoples in Palestine for millennia" -- a romanticized notion discredited by serious scholars -- actually consisted of a non-Arabian, multi-ethnic procession of immirants."

=============================

Does this retard even read her own links? This article shows that there are few, if any, native arab muslim to Israel.

Could this mongoloid possibly any less intelligent LOL? She's posting links that destroy her claims LOL, this is getting hilarious...

Of course the Palestinians are non-Arabian, that's what I have always stated. As the article states:

"Native Population almost wholly descended from Jews who had been forcibly converted to Christianity"

What's your point?

Oh now I get it. The Palestinians are Jews for Allah. Amazing what we can learn from Monte.

I see you don't understand. Let's see if I can help your reading comprehension. Palestinians practice Christianity and Islam for the most part today, so they they are not Jews. Many, if not most of their ancestors practiced Judaism at one time and were Jews until they converted to Christianity and subsequently Islam. That's what the link explains. Hope this helps.

Let me walk you through this. Based on what you posted, the Palestinians have a Jewish bloodline. Is that correct?

Many, if not most Palestinians are descendants of the inhabitants of the area that began following the teachings of Jesus Christ over the centuries after Christ. What is so strange about that? Does common sense elude you?

Back to the original question. Based on what you posted, the Palestinians have a Jewish bloodline. Is that correct? Yes or no?

 

[montelatici]

Of course the Palestinians are non-Arabian, that's what I have always stated. As the article states:

"Native Population almost wholly descended from Jews who had been forcibly converted to Christianity"

What's your point?

Oh now I get it. The Palestinians are Jews for Allah. Amazing what we can learn from Monte.

I see you don't understand. Let's see if I can help your reading comprehension. Palestinians practice Christianity and Islam for the most part today, so they they are not Jews. Many, if not most of their ancestors practiced Judaism at one time and were Jews until they converted to Christianity and subsequently Islam. That's what the link explains. Hope this helps.

Let me walk you through this. Based on what you posted, the Palestinians have a Jewish bloodline. Is that correct?

Many, if not most Palestinians are descendants of the inhabitants of the area that began following the teachings of Jesus Christ over the centuries after Christ. What is so strange about that? Does common sense elude you?

Back to the original question. Based on what you posted, the Palestinians have a Jewish bloodline. Is that correct? Yes or no?

Since an Inuit (or a European, Chinese etc.) could be a Jew through conversion or an ancestor's conversion, it is improbable that a Palestinian would have an Inuit (or European, Chinese) bloodline. So what I stated stands.
Many, if not most Palestinians are descendants of the inhabitants of the area that began following the teachings of Jesus Christ over the centuries after Christ.

 

[Hollie]

From the retard's OWN link:

"In Palestine the "small" number of Arab invaders who had been imported by the Arabian conquerors were wiped out by disease. Thus the "myth" of the "Palestinian Arab" descending "from the Arab conquerors" appears to be factually incorrect for all but perhaps a few."

"Thus, not only was Arab rule "extraordinarily short," but the "pure Arab peoples in Palestine for millennia" -- a romanticized notion discredited by serious scholars -- actually consisted of a non-Arabian, multi-ethnic procession of immirants."

=============================

Does this retard even read her own links? This article shows that there are few, if any, native arab muslim to Israel.

Could this mongoloid possibly any less intelligent LOL? She's posting links that destroy her claims LOL, this is getting hilarious...

Of course the Palestinians are non-Arabian, that's what I have always stated. As the article states:

"Native Population almost wholly descended from Jews who had been forcibly converted to Christianity"

What's your point?

Oh now I get it. The Palestinians are Jews for Allah. Amazing what we can learn from Monte.

I see you don't understand. Let's see if I can help your reading comprehension. Palestinians practice Christianity and Islam for the most part today, so they they are not Jews. Many, if not most of their ancestors practiced Judaism at one time and were Jews until they converted to Christianity and subsequently Islam. That's what the link explains. Hope this helps.

Let me walk you through this. Based on what you posted, the Palestinians have a Jewish bloodline. Is that correct?

Many, if not most Palestinians are descendants of the inhabitants of the area that began following the teachings of Jesus Christ over the centuries after Christ. What is so strange about that? Does common sense elude you?

So... you're hoping to dance around the fact that the European xtian Crusaders were the compelling reason that "most Palestinians are descendants of the inhabitants of the area that began following the teachings of Jesus Christ over the centuries after Christ."

Let's be honest -because you can't - but your Magical Kingdom of Pal'istan is a geographic area that has seen invasion and colonization by various cultures.

 

[MJB12741]

Oh now I get it. The Palestinians are Jews for Allah. Amazing what we can learn from Monte.

I see you don't understand. Let's see if I can help your reading comprehension. Palestinians practice Christianity and Islam for the most part today, so they they are not Jews. Many, if not most of their ancestors practiced Judaism at one time and were Jews until they converted to Christianity and subsequently Islam. That's what the link explains. Hope this helps.

Let me walk you through this. Based on what you posted, the Palestinians have a Jewish bloodline. Is that correct?

Many, if not most Palestinians are descendants of the inhabitants of the area that began following the teachings of Jesus Christ over the centuries after Christ. What is so strange about that? Does common sense elude you?

Back to the original question. Based on what you posted, the Palestinians have a Jewish bloodline. Is that correct? Yes or no?

Since an Inuit (or a European, Chinese etc.) could be a Jew through conversion or an ancestor's conversion, it is improbable that a Palestinian would have an Inuit (or European, Chinese) bloodline. So what I stated stands.
Many, if not most Palestinians are descendants of the inhabitants of the area that began following the teachings of Jesus Christ over the centuries after Christ.

Just look at how those Palestinians "following the teachings of Jesus Christ" have treated the Christians & still do in Israel today.

 

[montelatici]

I see you don't understand. Let's see if I can help your reading comprehension. Palestinians practice Christianity and Islam for the most part today, so they they are not Jews. Many, if not most of their ancestors practiced Judaism at one time and were Jews until they converted to Christianity and subsequently Islam. That's what the link explains. Hope this helps.

Let me walk you through this. Based on what you posted, the Palestinians have a Jewish bloodline. Is that correct?

Many, if not most Palestinians are descendants of the inhabitants of the area that began following the teachings of Jesus Christ over the centuries after Christ. What is so strange about that? Does common sense elude you?

Back to the original question. Based on what you posted, the Palestinians have a Jewish bloodline. Is that correct? Yes or no?

Since an Inuit (or a European, Chinese etc.) could be a Jew through conversion or an ancestor's conversion, it is improbable that a Palestinian would have an Inuit (or European, Chinese) bloodline. So what I stated stands.
Many, if not most Palestinians are descendants of the inhabitants of the area that began following the teachings of Jesus Christ over the centuries after Christ.

Just look at how those Palestinians "following the teachings of Jesus Christ" have treated the Christians & still do in Israel today.

The Palestinians are Christians, 30 % of Palestinians worldwide are. Christian.


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[MJB12741]

Let me walk you through this. Based on what you posted, the Palestinians have a Jewish bloodline. Is that correct?

Many, if not most Palestinians are descendants of the inhabitants of the area that began following the teachings of Jesus Christ over the centuries after Christ. What is so strange about that? Does common sense elude you?

Back to the original question. Based on what you posted, the Palestinians have a Jewish bloodline. Is that correct? Yes or no?

Since an Inuit (or a European, Chinese etc.) could be a Jew through conversion or an ancestor's conversion, it is improbable that a Palestinian would have an Inuit (or European, Chinese) bloodline. So what I stated stands.
Many, if not most Palestinians are descendants of the inhabitants of the area that began following the teachings of Jesus Christ over the centuries after Christ.

Just look at how those Palestinians "following the teachings of Jesus Christ" have treated the Christians & still do in Israel today.

The Palestinians are Christians, 30 % of Palestinians worldwide are. Christian.


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And again you just avoid the issue when it doesn't please you.

Just look at how those Palestinians "following the teachings of Jesus Christ" have treated the Christians & still do in Israel today.

 

[louie888]

Israel's Legal Right To Exist

Thanks for this thread. We finally figured it out. The Jews actually bought Palestine from people that didn't exist. Just ask Holly or independent. It all makes sense now.

 

[Hollie]

Israel's Legal Right To Exist

Thanks for this thread. We finally figured it out. The Jews actually bought Palestine from people that didn't exist. Just ask Holly or independent. It all makes sense now.

You were already instructed on your gross errors, ignorance and lack of reading comprehension skills.

You were given the link so you could make an attempt, make an effort at reaching an understanding of the facts.

Willful ignorance on your part, Laddie.

Stick with cutting and pasting cartoons.

 

[MJB12741]

Israel's Legal Right To Exist

Thanks for this thread. We finally figured it out. The Jews actually bought Palestine from people that didn't exist. Just ask Holly or independent. It all makes sense now.

Hi ya Louie. Thanks for joining us here. How did you do on the Dick & Jane thread? Look Jane, see Spot run.

 

[louie888]

...Stick with cutting and pasting cartoons.

You keep flip-flopping from "A land without a people for a people without a land," to Jews legally bought the land from the people who never existed.

So clear now, thanks again.

 

[MJB12741]

...Stick with cutting and pasting cartoons.

You keep flip-flopping from "A land without a people for a people without a land," to Jews legally bought the land from the people who never existed.

So clear now, thanks again.

Who are these "people that never existed? Are you referring to the indigenous Palestinians, the Jews?

 

[montelatici]

Many, if not most Palestinians are descendants of the inhabitants of the area that began following the teachings of Jesus Christ over the centuries after Christ. What is so strange about that? Does common sense elude you?

Back to the original question. Based on what you posted, the Palestinians have a Jewish bloodline. Is that correct? Yes or no?

Since an Inuit (or a European, Chinese etc.) could be a Jew through conversion or an ancestor's conversion, it is improbable that a Palestinian would have an Inuit (or European, Chinese) bloodline. So what I stated stands.
Many, if not most Palestinians are descendants of the inhabitants of the area that began following the teachings of Jesus Christ over the centuries after Christ.

Just look at how those Palestinians "following the teachings of Jesus Christ" have treated the Christians & still do in Israel today.

The Palestinians are Christians, 30 % of Palestinians worldwide are. Christian.


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And again you just avoid the issue when it doesn't please you.

Just look at how those Palestinians "following the teachings of Jesus Christ" have treated the Christians & still do in Israel today.

Hmmm.



"The Palestinian Christian : Betrayed, Persecuted, Sacrificed

by Abe W. Ata

Abe W Ata was a temporary delegate to the UN in 1970 and has lived and worked in the Middle East, America and Australia. Dr Ata is a Senior Fellow Institute for the Advancement of Research, and lectures in Psychology at the Australian Catholic University . Dr Ata is a 9th generation Christian Palestinian academic born in Bethlehem. This essay is used by permission of the author.


"The Palestinian Christian is an endangered species.

When the modern state of Israel was established there were about 400,000 of us. Two years ago the number was down to 80,000. Now it’s down to 60,000. At that rate, in a few years there will be none of us left. When this happens non-Christian groups will move into our churches and claim them forever.

Palestinian Christians within Israel fare little better. On the face of it, their number has grown by 20,000 since 1991. But this is misleading, for the census classification "Christian" includes some 20,000 recent non-Arab migrants from the former Soviet Union.

So why are Palestinian Christians abandoning their homeland?

We have lost hope, that’s why. We are treated as non-people. Few outside the Middle East even know we exist, and those who do, conveniently forget.

I refer, of course, to the American Religious Right. They see modern Israel as a harbinger of the Second Coming, at which time Christians will go to paradise, and all others (presumably including Jews) to hell. To this end they lend military and moral support to Israel.

Even by the double-dealing standards of international diplomacy this is a breathtakingly cynical bargain. It is hard to know who is using whom more: the Christian Right for offering secular power in the expectation that the Jewish state will be destroyed by a greater spiritual one; or the Israeli Right for accepting their offer. What we do know is that both sides are abusing the Palestinians. Apparently we don’t enter into anyone’s calculations.

The views of the Israeli Right are well known: they want us gone."

The Palestinian Christian : Betrayed, Persecuted, Sacrificed

 

[MJB12741]

Back to the original question. Based on what you posted, the Palestinians have a Jewish bloodline. Is that correct? Yes or no?

Since an Inuit (or a European, Chinese etc.) could be a Jew through conversion or an ancestor's conversion, it is improbable that a Palestinian would have an Inuit (or European, Chinese) bloodline. So what I stated stands.
Many, if not most Palestinians are descendants of the inhabitants of the area that began following the teachings of Jesus Christ over the centuries after Christ.

Just look at how those Palestinians "following the teachings of Jesus Christ" have treated the Christians & still do in Israel today.

The Palestinians are Christians, 30 % of Palestinians worldwide are. Christian.


Sent from my iPhone using USMessageBoard.com

And again you just avoid the issue when it doesn't please you.

Just look at how those Palestinians "following the teachings of Jesus Christ" have treated the Christians & still do in Israel today.

Hmmm.



"The Palestinian Christian : Betrayed, Persecuted, Sacrificed

by Abe W. Ata

Abe W Ata was a temporary delegate to the UN in 1970 and has lived and worked in the Middle East, America and Australia. Dr Ata is a Senior Fellow Institute for the Advancement of Research, and lectures in Psychology at the Australian Catholic University . Dr Ata is a 9th generation Christian Palestinian academic born in Bethlehem. This essay is used by permission of the author.


"The Palestinian Christian is an endangered species.

When the modern state of Israel was established there were about 400,000 of us. Two years ago the number was down to 80,000. Now it’s down to 60,000. At that rate, in a few years there will be none of us left. When this happens non-Christian groups will move into our churches and claim them forever.

Palestinian Christians within Israel fare little better. On the face of it, their number has grown by 20,000 since 1991. But this is misleading, for the census classification "Christian" includes some 20,000 recent non-Arab migrants from the former Soviet Union.

So why are Palestinian Christians abandoning their homeland?

We have lost hope, that’s why. We are treated as non-people. Few outside the Middle East even know we exist, and those who do, conveniently forget.

I refer, of course, to the American Religious Right. They see modern Israel as a harbinger of the Second Coming, at which time Christians will go to paradise, and all others (presumably including Jews) to hell. To this end they lend military and moral support to Israel.

Even by the double-dealing standards of international diplomacy this is a breathtakingly cynical bargain. It is hard to know who is using whom more: the Christian Right for offering secular power in the expectation that the Jewish state will be destroyed by a greater spiritual one; or the Israeli Right for accepting their offer. What we do know is that both sides are abusing the Palestinians. Apparently we don’t enter into anyone’s calculations.

The views of the Israeli Right are well known: they want us gone."

The Palestinian Christian : Betrayed, Persecuted, Sacrificed

So why are the Muslim Palestinians persecuting the Christians?

The Disquieting Treatment of Christians by the Palestinians

 

[montelatici]

Since an Inuit (or a European, Chinese etc.) could be a Jew through conversion or an ancestor's conversion, it is improbable that a Palestinian would have an Inuit (or European, Chinese) bloodline. So what I stated stands.
Many, if not most Palestinians are descendants of the inhabitants of the area that began following the teachings of Jesus Christ over the centuries after Christ.

Just look at how those Palestinians "following the teachings of Jesus Christ" have treated the Christians & still do in Israel today.

The Palestinians are Christians, 30 % of Palestinians worldwide are. Christian.


Sent from my iPhone using USMessageBoard.com

And again you just avoid the issue when it doesn't please you.

Just look at how those Palestinians "following the teachings of Jesus Christ" have treated the Christians & still do in Israel today.

Hmmm.



"The Palestinian Christian : Betrayed, Persecuted, Sacrificed

by Abe W. Ata

Abe W Ata was a temporary delegate to the UN in 1970 and has lived and worked in the Middle East, America and Australia. Dr Ata is a Senior Fellow Institute for the Advancement of Research, and lectures in Psychology at the Australian Catholic University . Dr Ata is a 9th generation Christian Palestinian academic born in Bethlehem. This essay is used by permission of the author.


"The Palestinian Christian is an endangered species.

When the modern state of Israel was established there were about 400,000 of us. Two years ago the number was down to 80,000. Now it’s down to 60,000. At that rate, in a few years there will be none of us left. When this happens non-Christian groups will move into our churches and claim them forever.

Palestinian Christians within Israel fare little better. On the face of it, their number has grown by 20,000 since 1991. But this is misleading, for the census classification "Christian" includes some 20,000 recent non-Arab migrants from the former Soviet Union.

So why are Palestinian Christians abandoning their homeland?

We have lost hope, that’s why. We are treated as non-people. Few outside the Middle East even know we exist, and those who do, conveniently forget.

I refer, of course, to the American Religious Right. They see modern Israel as a harbinger of the Second Coming, at which time Christians will go to paradise, and all others (presumably including Jews) to hell. To this end they lend military and moral support to Israel.

Even by the double-dealing standards of international diplomacy this is a breathtakingly cynical bargain. It is hard to know who is using whom more: the Christian Right for offering secular power in the expectation that the Jewish state will be destroyed by a greater spiritual one; or the Israeli Right for accepting their offer. What we do know is that both sides are abusing the Palestinians. Apparently we don’t enter into anyone’s calculations.

The views of the Israeli Right are well known: they want us gone."

The Palestinian Christian : Betrayed, Persecuted, Sacrificed

So why are the Muslim Palestinians persecuting the Christians?

The Disquieting Treatment of Christians by the Palestinians

Because you use propaganda sites as your exclusive sources. Try using neutral information sites for once in your life.

 

[Hollie]

...Stick with cutting and pasting cartoons.

You keep flip-flopping from "A land without a people for a people without a land," to Jews legally bought the land from the people who never existed.

So clear now, thanks again.

Your being befuddled makes it difficult to keep up. You should to use the "quote" function to help you understand what others have written.