Israeli Security Experts: “America Needs A Border Wall”

[Rigby5]

ME: More than 2,000 illegal immigrants are interdicted daily (not counting the “get-aways”) coming across the southern border. The Democrats do not disagree. Of course we need a wall. Question: Who agrees that Trump would give the Dems much of what they want if they just gave him the wall, and that they are actually hurting themselves by not giving him this one win?

Israeli Security Experts: “America Needs A Border Wall”

Who knew Israel had their borders protected by 40' concrete walls.

Israel's concrete walls on not in or near Israel.
They are on Palestinian land occupied illegally.
The closes to a legal border for Israel would be the 1949 UN partition, that put all of Jerusalem outside of Israel.

 

[Rigby5]

Israel's wall has been working for years just as one here would work.

The walls around Israel are really totally unnecessary, and it is the tanks and machineguns that actually make all the difference.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

We have a 100% right to control our border crossings and immigration.
Eventually something bad will happen with open borders.
Border Agents Getting Sick From Illegal Aliens, Worry About Contracting Ebola From African Illegals

 

[Rigby5]

We have a 100% right to control our border crossings and immigration.
Eventually something bad will happen with open borders.
Border Agents Getting Sick From Illegal Aliens, Worry About Contracting Ebola From African Illegals

No, we do not have 100% right to control the border of North America that we stole from the natives.
Especially since most of those wanting to cross are natives, and are fleeing arms we provided to evil people, like the Honduran military.

Border Agents have nothing to fear from Ebola since anyone who contracts it would show symptoms way before they got here. And Ebola is extremely rare. And it is likely we can easily cure it. Many US medical professionals have contracted it and had no problem being cured. I suspect we already know the cure. It could be we have the cure because we created Ebola in the first place?

 

[Thinker101]

Israel should decline the $$$$ we give them and pay for it.

You should keep your ignorant piehole clammed up

oh thats right, you dont want to pay taxes to pay for ANYTHING ....

Certainly not for the FREE healthcare and FREE college for illegals, dumbass.

No one in the US gets free healthcare or free college tuition yet.
And illegal immigrants get nothing but ER services.

With the key phrase being "yet", although.
Cash-strapped undocumented immigrants in Chicago flock to free community colleges
Illegal Immigrants get free education, housing and healthcare for crossing border; Americans get $5,000 fine

Five Shocking "Free" Things Illegals Get Under Obama That You Don't...

 

[Rigby5]

Israel should decline the $$$$ we give them and pay for it.

You should keep your ignorant piehole clammed up

oh thats right, you dont want to pay taxes to pay for ANYTHING ....

Certainly not for the FREE healthcare and FREE college for illegals, dumbass.

No one in the US gets free healthcare or free college tuition yet.
And illegal immigrants get nothing but ER services.

With the key phrase being "yet", although.
Cash-strapped undocumented immigrants in Chicago flock to free community colleges
Illegal Immigrants get free education, housing and healthcare for crossing border; Americans get $5,000 fine

Five Shocking "Free" Things Illegals Get Under Obama That You Don't...

Very poor article at the link. Source is InfoWars. Claims free immigrant housing, tuition, and health care, but does not say how. And the truth is all US citizens can get the same just be being imprisoned for a crime.

 

[Thinker101]

You should keep your ignorant piehole clammed up

oh thats right, you dont want to pay taxes to pay for ANYTHING ....

Certainly not for the FREE healthcare and FREE college for illegals, dumbass.

No one in the US gets free healthcare or free college tuition yet.
And illegal immigrants get nothing but ER services.

With the key phrase being "yet", although.
Cash-strapped undocumented immigrants in Chicago flock to free community colleges
Illegal Immigrants get free education, housing and healthcare for crossing border; Americans get $5,000 fine

Five Shocking "Free" Things Illegals Get Under Obama That You Don't...

Very poor article at the link. Source is InfoWars. Claims free immigrant housing, tuition, and health care, but does not say how. And the truth is all US citizens can get the same just be being imprisoned for a crime.

Don't like one link, there's two others, don't like any of the links, look it up yourself. Doesn't say how? Figure it out for yourself, dumbass.

 

[bripat9643]

Border fence in Israel cut illegal immigration by 99 percent, GOP senator says
GOP senator says Israel border fence cut illegal immigration

Johnson’s statement is accurate, but needs additional information. We rate it Mostly True.

 

[Rigby5]

oh thats right, you dont want to pay taxes to pay for ANYTHING ....

Certainly not for the FREE healthcare and FREE college for illegals, dumbass.

No one in the US gets free healthcare or free college tuition yet.
And illegal immigrants get nothing but ER services.

With the key phrase being "yet", although.
Cash-strapped undocumented immigrants in Chicago flock to free community colleges
Illegal Immigrants get free education, housing and healthcare for crossing border; Americans get $5,000 fine

Five Shocking "Free" Things Illegals Get Under Obama That You Don't...

Very poor article at the link. Source is InfoWars. Claims free immigrant housing, tuition, and health care, but does not say how. And the truth is all US citizens can get the same just be being imprisoned for a crime.

Don't like one link, there's two others, don't like any of the links, look it up yourself. Doesn't say how? Figure it out for yourself, dumbass.

Community colleges are local not federal, and local communities can decide themselves what they want to provide.
But community colleges are not costing more due to a few immigrants, who have to already know English or they could not get anything out of it. Likely class size is too small anyway, so this is an improvement. But no way is anyone getting free health care or housing.

 

[Rigby5]

Border fence in Israel cut illegal immigration by 99 percent, GOP senator says
GOP senator says Israel border fence cut illegal immigration

Johnson’s statement is accurate, but needs additional information. We rate it Mostly True.

It is very deceptive because there was hardly any significant border crossing before the wall, and after the wall there was too much prevention of border crossing, such as farmers not being allowed to get to their fields on the other side of the wall.

 

[bripat9643]

Border fence in Israel cut illegal immigration by 99 percent, GOP senator says
GOP senator says Israel border fence cut illegal immigration

Johnson’s statement is accurate, but needs additional information. We rate it Mostly True.

It is very deceptive because there was hardly any significant border crossing before the wall, and after the wall there was too much prevention of border crossing, such as farmers not being allowed to get to their fields on the other side of the wall.

That isn't what the chart shows. You're telling us we shouldn't believe our own eyes.

 

[Rigby5]

Border fence in Israel cut illegal immigration by 99 percent, GOP senator says
GOP senator says Israel border fence cut illegal immigration

Johnson’s statement is accurate, but needs additional information. We rate it Mostly True.

It is very deceptive because there was hardly any significant border crossing before the wall, and after the wall there was too much prevention of border crossing, such as farmers not being allowed to get to their fields on the other side of the wall.

That isn't what the chart shows. You're telling us we shouldn't believe our own eyes.

No, the chart does not show anything and is just made up numbers.
For example, how can they possibly know the number of illegal crossings, and how could then know if illegal crossings have just moved along to a further route.
You do realize that the wall is not contiguous, don't you?
It is actually just dozens of separate sections of walls.

 

[bripat9643]

Border fence in Israel cut illegal immigration by 99 percent, GOP senator says
GOP senator says Israel border fence cut illegal immigration

Johnson’s statement is accurate, but needs additional information. We rate it Mostly True.

It is very deceptive because there was hardly any significant border crossing before the wall, and after the wall there was too much prevention of border crossing, such as farmers not being allowed to get to their fields on the other side of the wall.

That isn't what the chart shows. You're telling us we shouldn't believe our own eyes.

No, the chart does not show anything and is just made up numbers.
For example, how can they possibly know the number of illegal crossings, and how could then know if illegal crossings have just moved along to a further route.
You do realize that the wall is not contiguous, don't you?
It is actually just dozens of separate sections of walls.

They know who crossed illegally because they are caught once they are inside the borders of Israel. Other countries that have built walls/fences have similar results, like Hungary.

Walls work. The empirical evidence is irrefutable.

 

[Rigby5]

Border fence in Israel cut illegal immigration by 99 percent, GOP senator says
GOP senator says Israel border fence cut illegal immigration

Johnson’s statement is accurate, but needs additional information. We rate it Mostly True.

It is very deceptive because there was hardly any significant border crossing before the wall, and after the wall there was too much prevention of border crossing, such as farmers not being allowed to get to their fields on the other side of the wall.

That isn't what the chart shows. You're telling us we shouldn't believe our own eyes.

No, the chart does not show anything and is just made up numbers.
For example, how can they possibly know the number of illegal crossings, and how could then know if illegal crossings have just moved along to a further route.
You do realize that the wall is not contiguous, don't you?
It is actually just dozens of separate sections of walls.

They know who crossed illegally because they are caught once they are inside the borders of Israel. Other countries that have built walls/fences have similar results, like Hungary.

Walls work. The empirical evidence is irrefutable.

No, they do not catch anyone because the population of Israel is also half Arab.
The claims Israel makes about its illegal barrier war are all deliberately false.
Here is an actual image of what the supposed border looks like in East Jerusalem alone.
You will instantly see a wall is impossible.

Certainly walls can work, but not likely in all circumstances.
And walls usually indicate someone is trying to cheat.

 

[bripat9643]

It is very deceptive because there was hardly any significant border crossing before the wall, and after the wall there was too much prevention of border crossing, such as farmers not being allowed to get to their fields on the other side of the wall.

That isn't what the chart shows. You're telling us we shouldn't believe our own eyes.

No, the chart does not show anything and is just made up numbers.
For example, how can they possibly know the number of illegal crossings, and how could then know if illegal crossings have just moved along to a further route.
You do realize that the wall is not contiguous, don't you?
It is actually just dozens of separate sections of walls.

They know who crossed illegally because they are caught once they are inside the borders of Israel. Other countries that have built walls/fences have similar results, like Hungary.

Walls work. The empirical evidence is irrefutable.

No, they do not catch anyone because the population of Israel is also half Arab.
The claims Israel makes about its illegal barrier war are all deliberately false.
Here is an actual image of what the supposed border looks like in East Jerusalem alone.
You will instantly see a wall is impossible.

Certainly walls can work, but not likely in all circumstances.
And walls usually indicate someone is trying to cheat.

You claim their numbers are fake. Prove it. Why should anyone believe you?

Here's a map of the wall. Doesn't look impossible to me.

 

[Thinker101]

Certainly not for the FREE healthcare and FREE college for illegals, dumbass.

No one in the US gets free healthcare or free college tuition yet.
And illegal immigrants get nothing but ER services.

With the key phrase being "yet", although.
Cash-strapped undocumented immigrants in Chicago flock to free community colleges
Illegal Immigrants get free education, housing and healthcare for crossing border; Americans get $5,000 fine

Five Shocking "Free" Things Illegals Get Under Obama That You Don't...

Very poor article at the link. Source is InfoWars. Claims free immigrant housing, tuition, and health care, but does not say how. And the truth is all US citizens can get the same just be being imprisoned for a crime.

Don't like one link, there's two others, don't like any of the links, look it up yourself. Doesn't say how? Figure it out for yourself, dumbass.

Community colleges are local not federal, and local communities can decide themselves what they want to provide.
But community colleges are not costing more due to a few immigrants, who have to already know English or they could not get anything out of it. Likely class size is too small anyway, so this is an improvement. But no way is anyone getting free health care or housing.

So what are you saying, community colleges don't get federal funds? Bullshit.

 

[Rigby5]

It is very deceptive because there was hardly any significant border crossing before the wall, and after the wall there was too much prevention of border crossing, such as farmers not being allowed to get to their fields on the other side of the wall.

That isn't what the chart shows. You're telling us we shouldn't believe our own eyes.

No, the chart does not show anything and is just made up numbers.
For example, how can they possibly know the number of illegal crossings, and how could then know if illegal crossings have just moved along to a further route.
You do realize that the wall is not contiguous, don't you?
It is actually just dozens of separate sections of walls.

They know who crossed illegally because they are caught once they are inside the borders of Israel. Other countries that have built walls/fences have similar results, like Hungary.

Walls work. The empirical evidence is irrefutable.

No, they do not catch anyone because the population of Israel is also half Arab.
The claims Israel makes about its illegal barrier war are all deliberately false.
Here is an actual image of what the supposed border looks like in East Jerusalem alone.
You will instantly see a wall is impossible.

Certainly walls can work, but not likely in all circumstances.
And walls usually indicate someone is trying to cheat.

You claim their numbers are fake. Prove it. Why should anyone believe you?

Here's a map of the wall. Doesn't look impossible to me.

Yes it clearly is impossible even according to your map, which is a much larger scale.
It should be clear even from your larger map, that Muslim/Palestinian and Jewish/Israeli communities are not divided, but all mixed up.
You can't build a wall to prevent Palestinians from getting to their homes inside of occupied areas where Israel has built Jewish settlements.
Almost all the Jewish settlement near Jerusalem are OUTSIDE of Israel, and in Palestinian territory.
In fact, only the tiny Old Quarter of Jerusalem is traditionally Jewish, and most of east Jerusalem is still considered Palestine, even by Israel.
There is no

 

[bripat9643]

That isn't what the chart shows. You're telling us we shouldn't believe our own eyes.

No, the chart does not show anything and is just made up numbers.
For example, how can they possibly know the number of illegal crossings, and how could then know if illegal crossings have just moved along to a further route.
You do realize that the wall is not contiguous, don't you?
It is actually just dozens of separate sections of walls.

They know who crossed illegally because they are caught once they are inside the borders of Israel. Other countries that have built walls/fences have similar results, like Hungary.

Walls work. The empirical evidence is irrefutable.

No, they do not catch anyone because the population of Israel is also half Arab.
The claims Israel makes about its illegal barrier war are all deliberately false.
Here is an actual image of what the supposed border looks like in East Jerusalem alone.
You will instantly see a wall is impossible.

Certainly walls can work, but not likely in all circumstances.
And walls usually indicate someone is trying to cheat.

You claim their numbers are fake. Prove it. Why should anyone believe you?

Here's a map of the wall. Doesn't look impossible to me.

Yes it clearly is impossible even according to your map, which is a much larger scale.
It should be clear even from your larger map, that Muslim/Palestinian and Jewish/Israeli communities are not divided, but all mixed up.
You can't build a wall to prevent Palestinians from getting to their homes inside of occupied areas where Israel has built Jewish settlements.
Almost all the Jewish settlement near Jerusalem are OUTSIDE of Israel, and in Palestinian territory.
In fact, only the tiny Old Quarter of Jerusalem is traditionally Jewish, and most of east Jerusalem is still considered Palestine, even by Israel.
There is no

There are Jewish areas on both sides of the wall, and there are Palestinian areas on both sides of the wall. That doesn't alter the fact that there is a wall and since it was built illegal border crossings have dropped almost to zero.

You make these flat out claims that are flat out wrong.

 

[Rigby5]

No, the chart does not show anything and is just made up numbers.
For example, how can they possibly know the number of illegal crossings, and how could then know if illegal crossings have just moved along to a further route.
You do realize that the wall is not contiguous, don't you?
It is actually just dozens of separate sections of walls.

They know who crossed illegally because they are caught once they are inside the borders of Israel. Other countries that have built walls/fences have similar results, like Hungary.

Walls work. The empirical evidence is irrefutable.

No, they do not catch anyone because the population of Israel is also half Arab.
The claims Israel makes about its illegal barrier war are all deliberately false.
Here is an actual image of what the supposed border looks like in East Jerusalem alone.
You will instantly see a wall is impossible.

Certainly walls can work, but not likely in all circumstances.
And walls usually indicate someone is trying to cheat.

You claim their numbers are fake. Prove it. Why should anyone believe you?

Here's a map of the wall. Doesn't look impossible to me.

Yes it clearly is impossible even according to your map, which is a much larger scale.
It should be clear even from your larger map, that Muslim/Palestinian and Jewish/Israeli communities are not divided, but all mixed up.
You can't build a wall to prevent Palestinians from getting to their homes inside of occupied areas where Israel has built Jewish settlements.
Almost all the Jewish settlement near Jerusalem are OUTSIDE of Israel, and in Palestinian territory.
In fact, only the tiny Old Quarter of Jerusalem is traditionally Jewish, and most of east Jerusalem is still considered Palestine, even by Israel.
There is no

There are Jewish areas on both sides of the wall, and there are Palestinian areas on both sides of the wall. That doesn't alter the fact that there is a wall and since it was built illegal border crossings have dropped almost to zero.

You make these flat out claims that are flat out wrong.

That makes absolutely no sense at all.
If there are Palestinians and Israelis on both sides of the wall, then the wall is not separating or protecting anyone.
You can't measure if there is illegal border crossings when there already are supposed to be both groups on both sides of the wall.
How are you going to tell if there are any illegal border crossings?
It is easy to just stop making up numbers and write in zero, but it does not mean anything.

 

[Rigby5]

No one in the US gets free healthcare or free college tuition yet.
And illegal immigrants get nothing but ER services.

With the key phrase being "yet", although.
Cash-strapped undocumented immigrants in Chicago flock to free community colleges
Illegal Immigrants get free education, housing and healthcare for crossing border; Americans get $5,000 fine

Five Shocking "Free" Things Illegals Get Under Obama That You Don't...

Very poor article at the link. Source is InfoWars. Claims free immigrant housing, tuition, and health care, but does not say how. And the truth is all US citizens can get the same just be being imprisoned for a crime.

Don't like one link, there's two others, don't like any of the links, look it up yourself. Doesn't say how? Figure it out for yourself, dumbass.

Community colleges are local not federal, and local communities can decide themselves what they want to provide.
But community colleges are not costing more due to a few immigrants, who have to already know English or they could not get anything out of it. Likely class size is too small anyway, so this is an improvement. But no way is anyone getting free health care or housing.

So what are you saying, community colleges don't get federal funds? Bullshit.

Yes, community colleges get no federal funds at all.
In fact, most colleges get no federal funds.
The only ones that get funds are land grant, state colleges.
And you can tell those because they have things like ROTC programs, government research, etc.