Israel Opens Dam Gates to Flood Gaza?

[Phoenall]

I take it you believe Zionism is a two-thousand year-old yearning instead of a modern political movement born during the last 25 years of the 19th century? Zionists took control in Palestine through a process of colonization, not liberation. Maybe you or Muhammad can explain why Jews alone, among all nations of the world, are entitled to land their ancestors conquered from others three thousand years ago?

Not at all as Zionism was invented in the later part of the 19 century, with not a Jew is sight. Palestine was colonised by muslims from Pakistan, afgahnistan, Saudi, iran, Iraq and other Islamic nations when the Jews of Palestine bought the land from the ottoman owners. They were attracted by the thought of easy money and the chance to steal Jewish land once again. AND NOT A ZIONIST IN SIGHT, but plenty of land grabbing muslims. The land of Israel was owned by Britain as reparations after WW1 and they had a mandate to do with the land as they saw fit. Not owned by any muslim from Saudi, Iraq or iran, but parts owned by Jews who had deeds to the land that Britain and the League of Nations honoured. It was Britain that first broached the subject of giving the Jews a homeland in the M.E and asked the arabs if they had any objections to the Jews getting the land that is today gaza, Israel, west bank and Golan heights.

So maybe you can explain why muslims out of every culture are the only ones that can claim Jewish land if their great grandfather's goats crapped on the streets of Tel Aviv 100 years ago

What was the ratio of Jew to Arab in 1900 Palestine?
(Don't count any goats)

Would that be in legal land owning Jews and arabs, or do you count all muslims as arabs. A league of nations report from 1920 states that the numbers of arabs living in Palestine were very few,but the numbers of mixed race muslims are in the majority. Note they are not arabs but from non arab countries attracted by the lure of work on Jewish farms

 

[Phoenall]

What role did the Palestinians play in those 2000 years of persecution which took place primarily in Europe?

Actually, none - palistanians, as we know them, didn't exist more than about 50 years back, of course. Jamming! Jamming!

"We need to ask: What kind of national liberation movement allies itself in every case and at every moment in its history with the powers of world imperialism?

"What national liberation struggle built its very existence on the colonization of another people, on the obliteration of that people's history, their culture, and their land?

"The founding fathers of Zionism were much more honest about what they stood for. Over and over, one word appears in their writing: not national 'liberation,' but 'colonization.'

"Vladimir Jabotinsky, one of the founding fathers of the Zionist movement, wrote in 1923:

"'[It is the] iron law of every colonizing movement, a law which knows of no exceptions, a law which existed in all times and under all circumstances. If you wish to colonize a land in which people are already living, you must provide a garrison on your behalf Or else-or else, give up your colonization, for without an armed force which will render physically impossible any attempts to destroy or prevent this colonization, colonization is impossible, not "difficult," not "dangerous" but impossible!...

"'Zionism is a colonizing adventure and therefore it stands or falls by the question of armed force. It is important to build, it is important to speak Hebrew, but, unfortunately, it is even more important to be able to shoot-or else I am through with playing at colonization.'"

Better quit playing, Drivel
Learn to sail.

QUOTE]

Any difference to the colonization of America by Europeans who poisoned and murdered the indigenous Amerindians so they could steal their land. When the fledgling American governments sold land they did not own to European settlers knowing that the conflict would allow them to sell the land many times over. How about the less well hidden roots of islam that preach world domination and slavery for the abu, read the Koran and see just what the "arab" has in store for you in the future

 

[georgephillip]

Not at all as Zionism was invented in the later part of the 19 century, with not a Jew is sight. Palestine was colonised by muslims from Pakistan, afgahnistan, Saudi, iran, Iraq and other Islamic nations when the Jews of Palestine bought the land from the ottoman owners. They were attracted by the thought of easy money and the chance to steal Jewish land once again. AND NOT A ZIONIST IN SIGHT, but plenty of land grabbing muslims. The land of Israel was owned by Britain as reparations after WW1 and they had a mandate to do with the land as they saw fit. Not owned by any muslim from Saudi, Iraq or iran, but parts owned by Jews who had deeds to the land that Britain and the League of Nations honoured. It was Britain that first broached the subject of giving the Jews a homeland in the M.E and asked the arabs if they had any objections to the Jews getting the land that is today gaza, Israel, west bank and Golan heights.

So maybe you can explain why muslims out of every culture are the only ones that can claim Jewish land if their great grandfather's goats crapped on the streets of Tel Aviv 100 years ago

What was the ratio of Jew to Arab in 1900 Palestine?
(Don't count any goats)

Would that be in legal land owning Jews and arabs, or do you count all muslims as arabs. A league of nations report from 1920 states that the numbers of arabs living in Palestine were very few,but the numbers of mixed race muslims are in the majority. Note they are not arabs but from non arab countries attracted by the lure of work on Jewish farms

"According to Ottoman statistics studied by Justin McCarthy,[25] the population of Palestine in the early 19th century was 350,000, in 1860 it was 411,000 and in 1900 about 600,000 of which 94% were Arabs.

"In 1914 Palestine had a population of 657,000 Muslim Arabs, 81,000 Christian Arabs, and 59,000 Jews.[26]

"McCarthy estimates the non-Jewish population of Palestine at 452,789 in 1882, 737,389 in 1914, 725,507 in 1922, 880,746 in 1931 and 1,339,763 in 1946."

Demographics of Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[rhodescholar]

"McCarthy estimates the non-Jewish population of Palestine at 452,789 in 1882, 737,389 in 1914, 725,507 in 1922, 880,746 in 1931 and 1,339,763 in 1946."

The mentally ill trash gave up on the liberty nonsense, lying about the gaza floods, the nakba, etc., so now just keeps going round and round with whatever garbage this idiot asshole scumbag can grab from its hate sites.

We should collectively just ignore this piece of shit until it stops posting here altogether. Just keep reporting the cu-- until it gets banned, which would also be a good thing.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

More so diplomatically than militarily.
Sounds like really bad PR, to me.

Units in Menashe could be done. Plans for Itamar are problematic.

"Itamar (Hebrew: אִיתָמָ&#1512 is an Israeli settlement located in the West Bank's Samarian mountains, five kilometers southeast of Nablus, on land, according to the UN, that belongs to the Palestinian villages of Awarta, Rujib and Beit Furik.[2]

"The predominantly Orthodox Jewish community with a population of 1,024 (2012) falls in part[3] within the municipal jurisdiction of the Shomron Regional Council.[4]

"Under the terms of the Oslo Accords of 1993 between Israel and the Palestine Liberation Organization, Itamar was designated Area 'C' under full Israeli civil and security control.[citation needed]

"The international community considers Israeli settlements in the West Bank illegal under international law, but the Israeli government disputes this.[5]

"The settlement has several outposts and covers a total area of approximately 7,000 dunams of land.[6]

"Itamar's residents have been the target of several lethal attacks by Palestinian militants.[7] HRW reports an extensive number of violent acts by settlers from Itamar and its outposts against local Palestinians.[8]"

Itamar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A guy I went to high-school with, Moshe Goldsmith, is the mayor of Itamar. I wasn't particularly close with him, but he's a Facebook friend. He left a comfortable existence here in Brooklyn, to go live in the West Bank among hostile Arabs, all because of faith and ideology. He can't go anywhere without carrying a rifle, and of all my FB friends that I knew from high-school, he's aged the most--looking 10 years older. That's what living among savage Arabs does to you. It's also a good thing that he's a black-belt in karate.

 

[Phoenall]

What was the ratio of Jew to Arab in 1900 Palestine?
(Don't count any goats)

Would that be in legal land owning Jews and arabs, or do you count all muslims as arabs. A league of nations report from 1920 states that the numbers of arabs living in Palestine were very few,but the numbers of mixed race muslims are in the majority. Note they are not arabs but from non arab countries attracted by the lure of work on Jewish farms

"According to Ottoman statistics studied by Justin McCarthy,[25] the population of Palestine in the early 19th century was 350,000, in 1860 it was 411,000 and in 1900 about 600,000 of which 94% were Arabs.

"In 1914 Palestine had a population of 657,000 Muslim Arabs, 81,000 Christian Arabs, and 59,000 Jews.[26]

"McCarthy estimates the non-Jewish population of Palestine at 452,789 in 1882, 737,389 in 1914, 725,507 in 1922, 880,746 in 1931 and 1,339,763 in 1946."

Demographics of Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

, The majority of muslims ( not arabs as they would not be seen dead in Palestine ) are homeless squatters from the surrounding Islamic states and they are landless hobo's. The land was bought up piece by piece by the Jews, who paid more for barren desert than you would pay for agricultural land in the corn belt. While they hold title to the land they can not be removed from it, and they have the right of return and the right to reparations once the borders arte settled. The UN should start playing hardball with the muslims and force them into accepting terms before they end up with nothing.

 

[Indeependent]

Units in Menashe could be done. Plans for Itamar are problematic.

"Itamar (Hebrew: אִיתָמָ&#1512 is an Israeli settlement located in the West Bank's Samarian mountains, five kilometers southeast of Nablus, on land, according to the UN, that belongs to the Palestinian villages of Awarta, Rujib and Beit Furik.[2]

"The predominantly Orthodox Jewish community with a population of 1,024 (2012) falls in part[3] within the municipal jurisdiction of the Shomron Regional Council.[4]

"Under the terms of the Oslo Accords of 1993 between Israel and the Palestine Liberation Organization, Itamar was designated Area 'C' under full Israeli civil and security control.[citation needed]

"The international community considers Israeli settlements in the West Bank illegal under international law, but the Israeli government disputes this.[5]

"The settlement has several outposts and covers a total area of approximately 7,000 dunams of land.[6]

"Itamar's residents have been the target of several lethal attacks by Palestinian militants.[7] HRW reports an extensive number of violent acts by settlers from Itamar and its outposts against local Palestinians.[8]"

Itamar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A guy I went to high-school with, Moshe Goldsmith, is the mayor of Itamar. I wasn't particularly close with him, but he's a Facebook friend. He left a comfortable existence here in Brooklyn, to go live in the West Bank among hostile Arabs, all because of faith and ideology. He can't go anywhere without carrying a rifle, and of all my FB friends that I knew from high-school, he's aged the most--looking 10 years older. That's what living among savage Arabs does to you. It's also a good thing that he's a black-belt in karate.

Mid-50s, built like a brick wall, and well spoken?
Toro Dojo Karate?

 

[ForeverYoung436]

"Itamar (Hebrew: אִיתָמָ&#1512 is an Israeli settlement located in the West Bank's Samarian mountains, five kilometers southeast of Nablus, on land, according to the UN, that belongs to the Palestinian villages of Awarta, Rujib and Beit Furik.[2]

"The predominantly Orthodox Jewish community with a population of 1,024 (2012) falls in part[3] within the municipal jurisdiction of the Shomron Regional Council.[4]

"Under the terms of the Oslo Accords of 1993 between Israel and the Palestine Liberation Organization, Itamar was designated Area 'C' under full Israeli civil and security control.[citation needed]

"The international community considers Israeli settlements in the West Bank illegal under international law, but the Israeli government disputes this.[5]

"The settlement has several outposts and covers a total area of approximately 7,000 dunams of land.[6]

"Itamar's residents have been the target of several lethal attacks by Palestinian militants.[7] HRW reports an extensive number of violent acts by settlers from Itamar and its outposts against local Palestinians.[8]"

Itamar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A guy I went to high-school with, Moshe Goldsmith, is the mayor of Itamar. I wasn't particularly close with him, but he's a Facebook friend. He left a comfortable existence here in Brooklyn, to go live in the West Bank among hostile Arabs, all because of faith and ideology. He can't go anywhere without carrying a rifle, and of all my FB friends that I knew from high-school, he's aged the most--looking 10 years older. That's what living among savage Arabs does to you. It's also a good thing that he's a black-belt in karate.

Mid-50s, built like a brick wall, and well spoken?
Toro Dojo Karate?

That's him--you know him too? Though he was in my class in high-school, so he can't be more than 50. Looks 60 or even older, so he must have gone thru a lot over there.

 

[rhodescholar]

All I have to say is that georgie will be MUCH quieter around here for the foreseeable future. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Bottom line, the OP was a lie - there was no effort by israel to "flood" gaza" with anything.

 

[docmauser1]

"According to Ottoman statistics studied by Justin McCarthy,[25] the population of Palestine in the early 19th century was 350,000, in 1860 it was 411,000 and in 1900 about 600,000 of which 94% were Arabs.

Did that McCarthy mention who was that shakh, sultan, effendi, pasha, president, prime-minister of that palestine?

 

[MHunterB]

"According to Ottoman statistics studied by Justin McCarthy,[25] the population of Palestine in the early 19th century was 350,000, in 1860 it was 411,000 and in 1900 about 600,000 of which 94% were Arabs.

Did that McCarthy mention who was that shakh, sultan, effendi, pasha, president, prime-minister of that palestine?

Or did he happen to mention the nationality/tribal affiliation of all of those 'Arabs'? How many were actually from Egypt, Syria, etc, etc - and how many who actually had lived within the Mandate area west of the Jordan since they were born?

Oh, and how many of the people were Arab Jews?

 

[MHunterB]

Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News: Dam!

"Followers of this blog may remember that there was flooding in Gaza during a huge rainstorm in 2010, and they blamed Israel opening up a dam then as well.

I looked hard to find any dam between southern Israel (which is, of course, desert) and Gaza. Finally, I found it.

In 2001, a reservoir in Nahal Oz burst, and it did cause some flooding in Gaza. NGO Al Mezan said that the 2010 flooding was caused by the same "dam" that was opened by Israel in 2001, just to make Gazans' lives miserable.

And the "dam" story seemed to grow from there from a simple lie to a complex web of lies."