M.D. Rawlings
Classical Liberal
You're implying that anyone who denies that your five points are objectively true doesn't have a sound and developmentally mature mind.
No. I'm not imply that. I'm emphatically stating that. Anyone with a sound, developmentally mature mind (not a young child, someone suffering from a mental disorder or someone who is mentally retarded) can see that the five things are objectively true! Period. I didn't say anything about going to hell? LOL! There's nothing controversial about the cognitive facts of the five things or the kind of minds that might not be able to grasp them.
You have not once objected to what's actually being said. Not once! Not ever! Instead you argue over things that aren't there, aren't real. Just stay with the five things. None of the #6s or #7s or #8s or #9s or #10s or #11s that you keep adding to these five uncontroversial things exist!
So what? Why do you such a boner for These Five Things?
What's your boner about the five things? LOL! You've been going ape shit for pages over nothing controversial at all! You just said, again, in this post, that you agree: they are objectively true. And I didn't change them. I merely simplified their expression. The first post on them explained them. Now all we need it a simple list.
You quibble over every friggin' thing, things that are nothing. Get a grip.
As for their significance, number 4 of the Five Things is the key, and I have already shown that the MPTAG universally, objectively and absolutely holds true as an incontrovertible axiom of human cognition, just like 2 + 2 = 4. It's logically impossible for a human being to deny God’s existence without logically assuming that He does exist and, therefore, without logically proving that He does exist. Note the word logically. A human being cannot deny God’s existence without contradicting himself as he simultaneously violates the three fundamental laws of organic/classical thought biologically hardwired in our brains.
That is an historically, empirically and experientially fact of human cognition. Notwithstanding, this does not mean that science can verify what logic tells us must be true about God: Number 5 of the five things.
Every friggin' one of G.T's arguments are in fact proving this to be true! He just keeps changing terms or jumping to conclusions that don't follow. That's what he calling me a liar about, but only because he either can't see this simple and obvious truth or he's intentionally manipulating the flow of logic in order to avoid this truth.
That's his problem, not mine. But I can easily show you where he's screwing his logic.
I am discussing the things that follow with Emily right now, clearing up confusion about the difference between logic and science, proof and verification, invalidation and falsification, the definitions of infinity, perfection, eternity . . . and then finally I will come back to the MPTAG specifically once all of the things that are clouding her understand are fixed.