Is the US a democracy?

tell us why you believe it is or is not.

how many times do you have to go through this same pointless exercise?

even a white rat learns.


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i was being nice with my last post.... i almost mentioned that even rats can learn. Isn't it amazing the things she misses?
 
"The end of democracy and the defeat of the American Revolution will occur when government falls into the hands of lending institutions and moneyed incorporations."--Thomas Jefferson


"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs."--- Thomas Jefferson


“The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.”Thomas Jefferson

A government afraid of its citizens is a Democracy. Citizens afraid of government is tyranny!" --Thomas Jefferson
 
The U.S. was originally set up as a non-democracy or partial democracy. Over time, it has evolved into something that is, theoretically, a democracy. Since you worded your question in the present tense, the answer is yes.

The only way that anyone can pretend otherwise, and we have seen both of those here, is by:

1) Pretending that nothing has changed since 1789; or

2) Misdefining "democracy" in overly-narrow terms so that the term is restricted to a direct democracy or one without any restraints of the nature of the Bill of Rights.

The claim that there is an inherent contradiction between the concepts of "democracy" and "republic" is a false assertion. There is no such contradiction. A republic is not necessarily a democracy, but it can be one, and the U.S. is supposed to be one.

A republic that is not a democracy is an aristocracy instead: rule by the few through the mechanics of a republic. The Roman Republic and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics were both non-democratic republics. However, the U.S. is not like either of those. We are (or are supposed to be) a democratic republic -- and hence, a democracy.
 
TM, do we elect our representatives by popular vote?? Does a president win an election because he gets the most votes?? In a true democracy we would not have electoral colleges.

We are not a democracy. Thomas Jefferson understood that.

“A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.”
~Thomas Jefferson~
 
tell us why you believe it is or is not.

Well, it's not a matter of belief, it's a matter of fact. We are a Republic. At an elementary level, the main difference between the two is that in a direct democracy everyone has a say in all decisions and the majority rules. In a Republic, people elect others to make those decisions on their behalf and there are sometimes protections in place to prevent the majority from trampling over the minority.

Nice try but the moron will not believe you.
 
TM, do we elect our representatives by popular vote?? Does a president win an election because he gets the most votes?? In a true democracy we would not have electoral colleges.

We do elect our representatives by popular vote, yes. The EC is the only remaining non-democratic vestige of the original system, and the only reason it is still there is because it does not, in practice, violate democracy most of the time. Only twice in all of the presidential elections has the winner of the popular vote failed to win the EC vote as well. When that does happen, as in 2000, there is widespread perception that something has gone wrong, and movements arise to abolish the anachronism.

We are, at this point, supposed to be a democracy.
 
I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag and to the democracy for which it stands.

Hmmmm. That's not right.

We no longer teach basic government in school so we can't really blame people for not knowing that this isn't a democracy but is a republic.
 
We no longer teach basic government in school so we can't really blame people for not knowing that this isn't a democracy but is a republic.

Why do you believe there is a contradiction between those two terms such that we cannot be BOTH?
 

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