Is the ongoing punishment of Adam and Eve justifiable?

[GreatestIam]

Is the ongoing punishment of Adam and Eve justifiable?


Christian dogma says that Adam and Eve were murdered by neglect when God locked away the tree of life.


Eve was deceived by Satan and the talking serpent that God put in Eden. This caused the Original Sin concept that Christianity calls a happy fault and necessary to God’s plan.


Was gaining an education and a moral sense, which basically is what gaining knowledge is, justifiable to you?


Can you see yourself punishing your children for gaining an education and a moral sense the way God is punishing Adam and Eve to this day?


Regards

DL

 

[crazyme]

Christian dogma says that Adam and Eve were murdered by neglect when God locked away the tree of life.

Was gaining an education and a moral sense, which basically is what gaining knowledge is, justifiable to you?

Can you see yourself punishing your children for gaining an education and a moral sense the way God is punishing Adam and Eve to this day?

Christian dogma says that Adam and Eve were 'murdered' by God's neglect? Is that why there are so many 'shootings' occurring in the US?

Texas shool shooting: 'We will get through this,' congressman says - CNN


Should citizens really need to have any 'fear' towards the Godless? Really... Do everyday Citizens, non Criminal, need to live with fear towards godless individuals everyday of their God given life?

The wrong doers are the ones that need to be 'corrected', not the everyday non criminal ones.


Romans 13:3-4
"For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:

4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil."

So I guess the 'rulers' would be ministers of God... Hence, approved of by God, for bearing the sword and revenging to execute wrath upon the evil doers, and these are the 'ordained' of God. So why fear if you do good, Godliness? Romans 13:1 "Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God."


Texas shool shooting: 'We will get through this,' congressman says - CNN


Who said? Congressman. Ruler or peasant?


But is this a result of :

Christian dogma says that Adam and Eve were murdered by neglect when God locked away the tree of life.

Was gaining an education and a moral sense, which basically is what gaining knowledge is, justifiable to you?

Can you see yourself punishing your children for gaining an education and a moral sense the way God is punishing Adam and Eve to this day?

in ANY way? Really? Are these shooters and such attacking God or are they attacking 'persons'?


Terrorism is, in the broadest sense, the use of intentionally indiscriminate violence as a means to create terror among masses of people; or fear to achieve a financial, political, religious or ideological aim.[1] It is used in this regard primarily to refer to violence against peacetime targets or in war against non-combatants.[2] The terms "terrorist" and "terrorism" originated during the French Revolution of the late 18th century[3] but gained mainstream popularity during the U.S. Presidency of Ronald Reagan (1981–89) after the 1983 Beirut barracks bombings[4] and again after the attacks on New York City and Washington, D.C. in September 2001[5][4][6] and on Bali in October 2002.

Terrorism - Wikipedia



What Do the Seven Spikes on the Statue of Liberty's Crown Represent?


A symbol of hope, freedom and democracy, the Statue of Liberty sits on Liberty Island in New York Harbor. The copper and steel statue wears a crown with seven spikes. Some say the seven spikes represent the seven seas and seven continents of the world, others say they represent the rays of the sun and show that Lady Liberty is divine.
What Do the Seven Spikes on the Statue of Liberty's Crown Represent?


The European flag symbolises both the European Union and, more broadly, the identity and unity of Europe.

It features a circle of 12 gold stars on a blue background. They stand for the ideals of unity, solidarity and harmony among the peoples of Europe.

The number of stars has nothing to do with the number of member countries, though the circle is a symbol of unity.
The European flag - European Union - European Commission


The Council of Europe gave the 1955 flag a symbolic description in the following terms:

Against the blue sky of the Western world, the stars represent the peoples of Europe in a circle, a symbol of unity. Their number shall be invariably set at twelve, the symbol of completeness and perfection.

— Council of Europe. Paris, 7–9 December 1955

There are also a number of derivative designs used as logos or flags of other European organisations, and in the flags of Bosnia and Herzegovina (1998)[6] and Kosovo and Metochia (2008)
Flag of Europe - Wikipedia


Libertas was also recognized in ancient Rome by the rod (vindicta or festuca),[8] used ceremonially in the act of Manumissio vindicta, Latin for "Freedom by the Rod" (emphasis added):
Libertas - Wikipedia


The Statue of Liberty (Liberty Enlightening the World) in New York is a modern homage to the ancient goddess Libertas.


Liberty is a loose term in English for the goddess or personification of the concept of liberty, and is represented by the Roman Goddess Libertas, by Marianne, the national symbol of France, and by many others.

The Statue of Liberty (Liberty Enlightening the World) by Frédéric Auguste Bartholdi is a well-known example in art, a gift from France to the United States.

In the United States, "Liberty" often is depicted with five-pointed stars, as appear on the American flag, usually held in a raised hand. Another hand may hold a sword pointing downward. Depictions familiar to Americans include the following:

• The Statue of Liberty (Liberty Enlightening the World), its replicas, and its portrayal on many U.S. postage stamps.
• Many denominations of American coins have depicted Liberty in both bust side-view and full-figure designs; see also Liberty dollar, Seated Liberty dollar, Liberty dime, Indian Head cent, and others.
• The flags of the States of New York and New Jersey (along with various signs and government-owned items bearing the Seal of New Jersey)
• On the dome of the U.S. Capitol as Freedom
• On the dome of the Georgia State Capitol as Miss Freedom
• On the dome of the Texas State Capitol
• On the dome of the Allen County Courthouse in Fort Wayne, Indiana
• On the dome of the Bergen County Courthouse in Hackensack, New Jersey[2]
• On both Union and Confederate currency

In the early decades of the 20th Century, Liberty mostly displaced Columbia, who was widely used as the National personification of the US during the 19th Century.

Liberty (goddess) - Wikipedia


liberty (n.)


late 14c., "free choice, freedom to do as one chooses," also "freedom from the bondage of sin," from Old French liberte "freedom, liberty, free will" (14c., Modern French liberté), from Latin libertatem (nominative libertas) "civil or political freedom, condition of a free man; absence of restraint; permission," from liber "free" (see liberal (adj.)). At first of persons; of communities, "state of being free from arbitrary, despotic, or autocratic rule or control" is from late 15c.

The French notion of liberty is political equality; the English notion is personal independence. [William R. Greg, "France in January 1852" in "Miscellaneous Essays"]

Nautical sense of "leave of absence" is from 1758. Meaning "unrestrained action, conduct, or expression" (1550s) led to take liberties "go beyond the bounds of propriety" (1620s). Sense of "privileges by grant" (14c.) led to sense of "a person's private land" (mid-15c.), within which certain special privileges may be exercised, which yielded in 18c. in both England and America a sense of "a district within a county but having its own justice of the peace," and also "a district adjacent to a city and in some degree under its municipal jurisdiction" (as in Northern Liberties of Philadelphia). Also compare Old French libertés "local rights, laws, taxes."

Liberty-cap is from 1803; the American Revolutionary liberty-pole, "tall flagstaff set up in honor of liberty and often surmounted by a liberty-cap" is from 1775. Liberty-cabbage was a World War I U.S. jingoistic euphemism for sauerkraut.

liberty | Origin and meaning of liberty by Online Etymology Dictionary


Liberty Leading the People (French: La Liberté guidant le peuple is a painting by Eugène Delacroix commemorating the July Revolution of 1830, which toppled King Charles X of France. A woman personifying the concept and the Goddess of Liberty leads the people forward over a barricade and the bodies of the fallen, holding the flag of the French Revolution – the tricolour flag, which remains France's national flag – in one hand and brandishing a bayonetted musket with the other. The figure of Liberty is also viewed as a symbol of France and the French Republic known as Marianne.

Liberty Leading the People - Wikipedia

Liberty Leading the People
French: La Liberté guidant le peuple





Artemis
Goddess of the hunt, forests and hills, the moon, and archery

Apollo (left) and Artemis (right). Brygos (potter, signed), Briseis Painter, Tondo of an Attic red-figure cup, ca. 470 BC, Louvre.


Artemis pouring a libation, c. 460-450 BC.


Artemis was one of the most widely venerated of the Ancient Greek deities. Her Roman equivalent is Diana.Some scholars believe that the name, and indeed the goddess herself, was originally pre-Greek

Artemis - Wikipedia

The Diana of Versailles, a 2nd-century Roman version in the Greek tradition of iconography (Louvre Museum, Paris).
Diana (mythology) - Wikipedia


In Ancient Greece, Eleutheria was also an epithet for the goddess Artemis, and as such she was worshipped in Myra of Lycia.

The Roman equivalent of the goddess Eleutheria is Libertas, the personification of liberty.
Eleutheria - Wikipedia



In Ancient Greece, prostitutes wore special sandals that printed a message in the ground reading, “Follow me”

In Ancient Greece, prostitutes wore special sandals that printed a message in the ground reading, “Follow me”

 

[GreatestIam]

Christian dogma says that Adam and Eve were murdered by neglect when God locked away the tree of life.

Was gaining an education and a moral sense, which basically is what gaining knowledge is, justifiable to you?

Can you see yourself punishing your children for gaining an education and a moral sense the way God is punishing Adam and Eve to this day?

Christian dogma says that Adam and Eve were 'murdered' by God's neglect?

Yes, when he locked away the tree of life.

Regards
DL

 

[Marion Morrison]

Is the ongoing punishment of Adam and Eve justifiable?


Christian dogma says that Adam and Eve were murdered by neglect when God locked away the tree of life.


Eve was deceived by Satan and the talking serpent that God put in Eden. This caused the Original Sin concept that Christianity calls a happy fault and necessary to God’s plan.


Was gaining an education and a moral sense, which basically is what gaining knowledge is, justifiable to you?


Can you see yourself punishing your children for gaining an education and a moral sense the way God is punishing Adam and Eve to this day?


Regards

DL

Are you in a position to judge that? No? GFY.
You are not in a position to judge God, and I doubt you know how the world works.

 

[Mr Natural]

Talking snakes?

When did they go extinct?

 

[GreatestIam]

Is the ongoing punishment of Adam and Eve justifiable?


Christian dogma says that Adam and Eve were murdered by neglect when God locked away the tree of life.


Eve was deceived by Satan and the talking serpent that God put in Eden. This caused the Original Sin concept that Christianity calls a happy fault and necessary to God’s plan.


Was gaining an education and a moral sense, which basically is what gaining knowledge is, justifiable to you?


Can you see yourself punishing your children for gaining an education and a moral sense the way God is punishing Adam and Eve to this day?


Regards

DL

Are you in a position to judge that? No? GFY.
You are not in a position to judge God, and I doubt you know how the world works.

You would deny me a position to judge God when you yourself have done just that.

Thanks for making the case for the O.P.

Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

Talking snakes?

When did they go extinct?

Scriptures say that they never did and never will.

Regards
DL

 

[Marion Morrison]

 

[Marion Morrison]

 

[crazyme]

Hindu deities are the gods and goddesses in Hinduism. The terms and epithets for deity within the diverse traditions of Hinduism vary, and include Deva, Devi, Ishvara, Bhagavān and Bhagavati.

Ishvara (Sanskrit: ईश्वर, IAST: Īśvara) is a concept in Hinduism, with a wide range of meanings that depend on the era and the school of Hinduism.[1][2] In ancient texts of Indian philosophy, depending on the context, Ishvara can mean supreme soul, ruler, lord, king, queen or husband.[1] In medieval era Hindu texts, depending on the school of Hinduism, Ishvara means God, Supreme Being, personal god, or special Self.

Hindu deities - Wikipedia


Inanna (/ɪˈnɑːnə/; Sumerian: Dinanna) was the ancient Sumerian goddess of love, beauty, sex, desire, fertility, war, combat, justice, and political power. She was later worshipped by the Akkadians, Babylonians, and Assyrians under the name Ishtar. She was known as the "Queen of Heaven" and was the patron goddess of the Eanna temple at the city of Uruk, which was her main cult center. She was associated with the planet Venus and her most prominent symbols included the lion and the eight-pointed star. Her husband was the god Dumuzid the Shepherd (later known as Tammuz) and her sukkal, or personal attendant, was the goddess Ninshubur (who later became the male deity Papsukkal).

Inanna - Wikipedia



Acts 19:28 "And when they heard these sayings, they were full of wrath, and cried out, saying, Great is Diana of the Ephesians."


Acts 19:23-28; 35

"And the same time there arose no small stir about that way. 24For a certain man named Demetrius, a silversmith, which made silver shrines for Diana, brought no small gain unto the craftsmen; 25Whom he called together with the workmen of like occupation, and said, Sirs, ye know that by this craft we have our wealth.26Moreover ye see and hear, that not alone at Ephesus, but almost throughout all Asia, this Paul hath persuaded and turned away much people, saying that they be no gods, which are made with hands: 27So that not only this our craft is in danger to be set at nought; but also that the temple of the great goddess Diana should be despised, and her magnificence should be destroyed, whom all Asia and the world worshippeth.

And when the townclerk had appeased the people, he said, Ye men of Ephesus, what man is there that knoweth not how that the city of the Ephesians is a worshipper of the great goddess Diana, and of the image which fell down from Jupiter?"

 

[hobelim]

Is the ongoing punishment of Adam and Eve justifiable?


Christian dogma says that Adam and Eve were murdered by neglect when God locked away the tree of life.


Eve was deceived by Satan and the talking serpent that God put in Eden. This caused the Original Sin concept that Christianity calls a happy fault and necessary to God’s plan.


Was gaining an education and a moral sense, which basically is what gaining knowledge is, justifiable to you?


Can you see yourself punishing your children for gaining an education and a moral sense the way God is punishing Adam and Eve to this day?


Regards

DL

lol.... You might as well question the morality of a God that would let the big bad wolf eat grandma every single time someone reads the story..

The bastard!

 

[crazyme]

Dedicating all acts to the supreme Lord and renouncing the fruits thereof....

What does this mean? To renounce the fruits of all acts dedicated to the supreme lord?

 

[crazyme]

So back to the Question.

Is the ongoing punishment of Adam and Eve justifiable?


If yes, then for whom? If no, then for whom?

Who benefits from this 'punishment'? Righteous doers or Wrong doers?


here. If 3.5 percent or so, in The US identify themselves as being part of the LGBT identities, and if 60 or 50 or 40 percent of the citizens identify themselves as 'drug users', who benefits from the above questioned 'punishment' in today's culture and events?

It would deestablish the established to establish a new 'way' or 'living'. But to whom would this new 'way' or 'living' be benefitting?

Those that want restrictions and holds 'out' and 'freedom' in. And how is this NOT being given today? What are some of the restrictions some speak of as being overly weighed down? Who said you cannot engage in sexual intercourse with a consenting person? Who said you can't do drugs? The laws are already established. Doing drugs can or might not be illegal. Illegality and legality are Established Laws.

So what new 'way' or 'life' is trying to be established as Lawful?


What did Adolph Hitler try to accomplish? What did any single, mono, Leadership try to accomplish among the many, or poly? As in MonoPoly?

Absolute Rule with appointed members?

Do you really think Hitler didn't begin to rid his own choiced appointed members after he began gaining too much grandeur?

Paranoia of being usurped.


Matthew 2:1-3
Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem,

2Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.

3When Herod the king had heard these things, he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him."


...Where is he that is born King of the Jews?


Do world leaders feel 'threatened' if they feel as if their 'rule' is coming to an end?

Each Country has set times and limits and qualifications for Leadership seats. Why would they be 'afraid' to leave the seats if they knew that the job required of such things? Leadership roles are 'jobs' not Royalties.


But shootings of innocent persons? Acid throwing on innocent passerbys? Home invasions and public lootings and violent rallies and protests and condemning of of anti-violent, condoning of pro free, agendas? Where can it lead to?


Once again... If around 3.5 percent of The US population identify themselves as an LGBT person why is it considered a 'hate speech' to publicly address misnomers of facts and figures in relation to the LGBT facts and figures?

And why is addressing that population considered 'discriminatory' as if discriminating a 'sub group' or 'sub culture' within the Whole population group or Culture?

If a person spoke 'ill' towards a Republican worker, would that be grounds of being terminated from the job? Or if a person spoke 'ill' towards another 'subculture' such as disabled, would that be grounds of discrimination, all because of spoken words?

In fact, I don't think using the diabled would be a good analogy since the disable might make up more than 3.5 percent of the total population. And then on top of this, the even smaller percentage of 'trans' is becoming counter attacking for feeling 'discrimination' aimed at their group.


Yes, they are humans also, but daily life needs to go on.

 

[crazyme]

I think this basic rule of thumb is always a safe ground to seek to investigate from.

"If you see something out place, it more likely than not would be out of place."

Don't seek to adopt 'out of place things' into the 'accepted places' without first investigating.

As far as 'love', 'humility' 'non judgmentalism', etc.... If you're not a Priest or a Pastor, don't worry about it.

If everyone was to behave like Priests and Pastors are supposed to, where would the Law Enforcers be?

Sometimes Priests and Pastors could learn valuable lessons if they were needed to keep and maintain and enforce Laws. Their sermons might become more geared to Godly living more than docile living.

I mean think about it. The Law Enforcers are not acquainted with every citizen in the city.. But they need to enforce the Laws towards every citizen in the city and defend the Laws towards every citizen in the city. Pastors also are not acquainted with every citizen in the city. But if they needed to enforce and defend the Laws to every citizen in the city, then I think their sermon and sermon points would be different.

And how strange and true this is....

higher powers are 'ordained' of God. Romans 13:1 "...For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God."

But not many ordained Pastors or Preachers or 'masters'.

James 3:1
"My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation."

Matthew 23:8-9
"But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven."

Master so and so... Father so and so...

4461. rhabbi
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
Master, Rabbi.
Of Hebrew origin (rab with pronominal suffix); my master, i.e Rabbi, as an official title of honor -- Master, Rabbi.

see HEBREW rab

7227. rab
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
in abundance, elder, enough, exceedingly, full, greatly, man, one,
By contracted from rabab; abundant (in quantity, size, age, number, rank, quality) -- (in) abound(-undance, -ant, -antly), captain, elder, enough, exceedingly, full, great(-ly, man, one), increase, long (enough, (time)), (do, have) many(-ifold, things, a time), ((ship-))master, mighty, more, (too, very) much, multiply(-tude), officer, often(-times), plenteous, populous, prince, process (of time), suffice(-lent).

7231. rabab
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
increase, be manifold, be more, multiply, ten thousands
A primitive root; properly, to cast together (compare rabiyb), i.e. Increase, especially in number; also (as denominative from rbabah) to multiply by the myriad -- increase, be many(-ifold), be more, multiply, ten thousands.

7241. rebibim
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
shower
From rabab; a rain (as an accumulation of drops) -- shower.

7233. rebabah
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
many, million, multiply, ten thousand
From rabab; abundance (in number), i.e. (specifically) a myriad (whether definite or indefinite) -- many, million, X multiply, ten thousand.


father:
3962. patér
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
father, parent.
Apparently a primary word; a "father" (literally or figuratively, near or more remote) -- father, parent.


Hawaiian English
Hawaiʻi ponoʻī, - Hawaiʻi's own true son,
Nānā i kou mōʻī, - Be loyal to your king,
Kalani aliʻi, - Your country's liege and lord
Ke aliʻi. - The chief.

Hawaiʻi ponoʻī, - Hawaiʻi's own true sons,
Nānā i nā aliʻi, - Look to your chiefs,
Nā pua muli kou, - The children after you,
Nā pōkiʻi. - The young.

Hawaiʻi ponoʻī, - Hawaiʻi's own true sons,
E ka lāhui ē, - People of loyal heart,
ʻO kāu hana nui - The only duty lies
E ui ē. - Listen and abide.

Hui: Chorus:
Makua lani ē, - Father above us all,
Kamehameha ē, - Kamehameha e,
Na kaua e pale, - Who guarded in the war,
Me ka ihe. - With his spear.

Hawaiʻi Ponoʻī - Wikipedia

Although Hawai'i is not predominately Christian to follow the words of Jesus Christ, this is an example of the differences between what is expected of the Jews and of the Gentiles.

Gentiles, living in other lands, NEVER heard the words of Christ, if they never entered into Israel during HIS lifetime. So the only foreign ones that did hear Christ speak were the ones that entered into Israel. Jesus never left out of Israel. And so all the 'commands' and ways of the Christians in 'foreign' lands were taken there either by those that left their town to hear Jesus and then returned back, or through the Apostles' journeys.

Acts 15:1;23-24; 27-29
"But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses."


And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia: 24Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:


We have sent therefore Judas and Silas, who shall also tell you the same things by mouth. 28For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things; 29That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well."


Not, keep the Sabbath Day Holy.
Not, don't steal.
Not, don't lie.
Not, don't lay with your neighbor's wife or husband...

None of these were Commandments unto new Gentile Believers.

The other Epistle guidelines were set and given to keep the newly entering Believer in the Straight Path but not as Commandments.

But these Gentile Lands have their own Gentile Rulers....

Romans 13:1-7
"Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. 2Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. 3For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: 4For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. 5Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. 6For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing. 7Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour."


And you see, this is NOT a commandment but a guideline to keep out of trouble.

First for the Godly, then secondly, for the unGodly. Both being under the 'ordained' of God, or Rulers.

Disorder and problems arise when the rulers set forth unjust Laws and unsafe Laws. Especially if under an even Larger Rulership.

But ultimately, The Highest Rulership Government there is, Is The Kingdom of Heaven and The Kingdom of God and His Anointed; Jesus The Anointed One, or Jesus Christ.


There are still many uninhabited islands and lands on the Earth. If a person desires to set up his own Kingdom on Earth within the International Regristrar, I'm sure they could. They would be able to set those laws they desire into Law of that land if they wanted and if they did.

Doing this is much more convenient than having to become a murderer. Murder is also part of Law. With no such 'law', murder would be neither good nor bad but only a philosophical discussion on the 'morality' of murder.

The amazingly large part is how today's lives are seeing these mentalities on Established Lands and Governments and Laws with no regards to the Established but with the simplicity of heart of new members of a New Foundland.

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The Maya maintained several phallic religious cults, possibly involving homosexual temple prostitution.The Aztec god Xochipili (taken from both Toltec and Maya cultures) was both the patron of homosexuals and homosexual prostitutes.] The Inca sometimes dedicated young boys as temple prostitutes. The boys were dressed in girl's clothing, and chiefs and head men would have ritual sexual intercourse with them during religious ceremonies and on holy days.

Xochiquetzal was worshiped as goddess of sexual power, patroness of prostitutes and artisans involved in the manufacture of luxury items.

The conquistadores were horrified by the wide-spread acceptance of homosexuality, ephebophilia, pederasty, and pederosis among Mesoamerican and South American peoples, and used torture, burning at the stake, mass beheadings, and other means to stamp it out both as a religious practice and social custom.

Sacred prostitution - Wikipedia


1500's. But look at what they were able to accomplish...

The Maya civilization was a Mesoamerican civilization developed by the Maya peoples, and noted for its hieroglyphic script—the only known fully developed writing system of the pre-Columbian Americas.


El Castillo, at Chichen Itza

Maya civilization - Wikipedia


Human sacrifice is the act of killing one or more humans, usually as an offering to a deity, as part of a ritual. Human sacrifice has been practiced in various cultures throughout history. Victims were typically ritually killed in a manner that was supposed to please or appease gods, spirits or the deceased, for example as a propitiatory offering or as a retainer sacrifice when a king's servants are killed in order for them to continue to serve their master in the next life. Closely related practices found in some tribal societies are cannibalism and headhunting.

Human sacrifice - Wikipedia


Human sacrifice as part of 'Law'?


All gifts are from GOD. Physical and Spiritual gifts.


How can I say I love God but condone the murdering of another person's received gift(s)?

Ecclesiastes 4:3
"Yea, better is he than both they, which hath not yet been, who hath not seen the evil work that is done under the sun."

Ecclesiastes 4:2
"Wherefore I praised the dead which are already dead more than the living which are yet alive."

The continual 'punishment'... Murder, sacrifice, man, Established, establishing, deestablishing, etc...

Who benefits from all this?

The groups which are never 'condemned'.

The unrighteous have an easier life than the righteous do.

 

[sparky]

Genesis is a grand metaphor , Adam & Eve became aware of 'self ' , what an individual with needs ,wants & desires is.

And shame, thus the fig leaves....

Which St Michael took advantage of

Kinda goes down free will avenue after that....

~S~

 

[onefour1]

What makes you think the punishing of Adam and Eve is on going even today? That is a total misconception. What makes you think their punishment was for gaining an education and a moral sense? You have it all wrong.

 

[IsaacNewton]

Apparently all humans are responsible for Adam and Eve's crimes. 'god' put the tree in the garden and since he is all knowing he knew what would happen. He's guilty of temptation of innocents whom he knew could not resist eating apples. He also created the snake and gave it it's purpose.

It is the most heinous case of entrapment ever.

 

[Care4all]

I thought original sin was wiped away with Baptism?

 

[onefour1]

Original sin was wiped away by Christ and his atonement. No man or woman is held accountable before God for Adam or Eve's transgression. They are only held accountable for their own sins and transgressions.

1 Corinthians 15:22
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

For God said to Adam as the punishment of original sin, "In the day thou eatest thereof, thou shalt surely die" but in Christ it is taught:

Acts 24:15
15 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.

 

[onefour1]

Although we are born into this world and experience good and evil, eventually we will all resurrect and receive immortality. We will will be punished for Adam's transgression. Nor will Adam because he repented of it. The same for Eve his wife.