Is the GoP shooting itself in the foot?

The Conservatives will be the death of the once Grand Old Party

They got beat in 2006 and held the line

They got stomped in 2008 and held the line

Now they refuse to budge as their party folds around them

What universe do you inhabit?
Conservatives weren't running in 2006. Conservatives were absent in 2008.
The GOP lost both times because they FAILED at being conservatives. They adopted liberal policies of tax and spend and promise. That's why voters kicked their butts.
Geez, get it right.
 
Rabbi - respectfully - the logical of your last post is nil - you suggest that voters opted for Obama rather than McCain because they perceived Obama to be the more CONSERVATIVE of the two???????

And yet you suggest ANOTHER POSTER is the one not spending enough time on planet earth??????
 
Republicans will have absolutely NO problem in 2010. It looks like they may regain the house in short order.

We have had a taste of how the democrats are spending our money. 787 BILLION --so-called economic stimulus bill that really hasn't stimulated a dam thing--& of course that no democrat read before they signed off on, which was loaded with political pay-offs & pork. The 3 republicans that signed this bill are TOAST too.

Then the very next week Obama signing off on another 450 BILLION dollar Ominus bill that was loaded with over 9000 earmarks & goodies--

The health care proposals are the icing on the cake--August town hall meetings were a real eye-opener to what Americans are thinking.

NOPE--in 2010--democrats face a tsunami in the house & senate--along with many governorships.
 
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Republicans will have absolutely NO problem in 2010. It looks like they may regain the house in short order.

We have had a taste of how the democrats are spending our money. 787 BILLION --so-called economic stimulus bill that really hasn't stimulated a dam thing--& of course that no democrat read before they signed off on it.

Then the very next week Obama signing off on another 450 BILLION dollar Ominus bill that was loaded with over 9000 earmarks & goodies--

The health care proposals are the icing on the cake--August town hall meetings were a real eye-opener to how this congress wants to lead us to socialism.

NOPE--in 2010--democrats face a tsunami in the house & senate--along with many governorships.
Republicans will eat their young in an ideological purge of what the extreme right deems unworthy of the label "Republican". They will fall to the extreme right wing and run only angry, white ideological lemmings.

The recovery will be stronger in a year than it is now. Keynesian economics works during this type of economic cycle, despite what airhead Palin thinks.

The August town brawls were defused by the President's speech to congress, in spite of Joe Wilson's rudeness. And by then, a real bill will have been signed.

As long as the Republicans behave like a trapped animal, they will bleed supporters. If, on the other hand, the Republicans actually develop a message other than "NO!", there may be a chance for some, not many, but some Republican gains in the house. I'd hedge my bets on the Senate and governorships.
 
oreo - the only part of your post that is even remotely grounded in any logic is that it is possible that Republicans can regain the House in 2010. Possible .... right now the odds are at about 40%

But of course if the only perspective you have about "what is really going on in America" is from tea parties and town halls, I can forgive your lack of perspective. If you truly believe that those are accurate reflections of the mood of the majority of Americans, then I would humbly suggest that you just need to get out more.

But I guess we will see.
 
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Doesn't the president's party typically lose seats in the midterm election, particularly if public approval of the president goes down? I think it's too early to say what is going to happen, and his approval rating is still fairly high with another year to rise or plunge.
 
Doesn't the president's party typically lose seats in the midterm election, particularly if public approval of the president goes down? I think it's too early to say what is going to happen, and his approval rating is still fairly high with another year to rise or plunge.

The president's party DOES typically lose seats in the midterms, but there's no real corolation between that and the president's approval rating (unless it's on the far extremes like above 65% or below 35%).

The average has been about 24 seats in the House and about 8 in the Senate.
 
Rabbi - respectfully - the logical of your last post is nil - you suggest that voters opted for Obama rather than McCain because they perceived Obama to be the more CONSERVATIVE of the two???????

And yet you suggest ANOTHER POSTER is the one not spending enough time on planet earth??????

Hello? What are you smoking and can I have some?
Conservatives didn't support McCain. And he lost. They stayed home. The only reason some conservatives showed up was for Palin.
Conservative Republicans win elections when they run that way. When they run as moderates they lose. It's pretty simple.
Except if you're stupid.
 
No, conservatives did not stay home.

Social Values Conservatives stayed home, and they will again. I really don't think the GOP, if they gain anything, will get more than 2 or 3 in the Senate and maybe (maybe!) 9 or 10 in the House.

The more the economy recovers along with a passed and signed health care reform package, the worse the GOP will do.

If the libertards or the far rightoids get anybody on the ticket beyond a Mitt or Huck together, the GOP gets taken behind the woodshed and spanked again. You would think they would learn.
 
No, you're just plain wrong. Sorry.
No one with a libertarian streak liked McCain. I personally thought his ideas on the economy were just Obama-lite. I did vote for him anyway. But plenty of people didnt.
Reagan had the right formula for winning. It was only when HW Bush abandoned that that he lost.
 
The Conservatives will be the death of the once Grand Old Party

They got beat in 2006 and held the line

They got stomped in 2008 and held the line

Now they refuse to budge as their party folds around them

What universe do you inhabit?
Conservatives weren't running in 2006. Conservatives were absent in 2008.
The GOP lost both times because they FAILED at being conservatives. They adopted liberal policies of tax and spend and promise. That's why voters kicked their butts.
Geez, get it right.

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Keep up the good work.....your party needs to move MORE to the right
 
Entire article: GOP Congressman Targeted By 'RINO' Hunters : NPR

By any measure, Republican Rep. Bob Inglis of South Carolina is a solid conservative. In the 1990s, he was a vehement opponent of President Clinton. Last year, he got an "A" from the National Rifle Association, and an 84 percent approval rating from the American Conservative Union. His votes to cut budgets, leave markets unregulated and restrict abortions put him among the most conservative of his party.

.....Yet he is now a political target for elimination next election for not toeing the party line - even when the line was wrong?

And...why is that?

...Last week, Inglis did something that really ticked off some of his constituents. He was one of only seven Republicans who voted in favor of reprimanding South Carolina Rep. Joe Wilson — the man who yelled "you lie" at President Obama during a Sept. 9 speech to Congress.

At a constituent meeting at a Fuddruckers in Greenville, S.C., Inglis tried to explain:

"He admits that he violated the rules, right? And he apologized to the president. And what I said privately was, 'Joe, there's a second thing you gotta do. You gotta apologize to the forum,' " Inglis said.



Inglis' view of what the Republican Party needs to do:

"Our challenge as Republicans is to win at offering solutions with a hopeful, optimistic voice, rather than shrinking the party down to a snarling few who don't present their ideas with optimism, but rather just play on the worst fears of a small group of people," he says.


And what they seem to be doing instead is "purifying" the party with a RINO hunt on those who don't hew strictly to the conservative message.


That will win them indie and moderate votes for sure.


both parties are
 
The Conservatives will be the death of the once Grand Old Party

They got beat in 2006 and held the line

They got stomped in 2008 and held the line

Now they refuse to budge as their party folds around them

What universe do you inhabit?
Conservatives weren't running in 2006. Conservatives were absent in 2008.
The GOP lost both times because they FAILED at being conservatives. They adopted liberal policies of tax and spend and promise. That's why voters kicked their butts.
Geez, get it right.

:clap2:

Keep up the good work.....your party needs to move MORE to the right

That's how we win elections.
Ironically you accuse the GOP of not having a platform AND being too far to the right. I guess you think the GOP ought to adopt the Socialist Workers platform and get Van Jones to run as president.
 
Rabbi - respectfully - the logical of your last post is nil - you suggest that voters opted for Obama rather than McCain because they perceived Obama to be the more CONSERVATIVE of the two???????

And yet you suggest ANOTHER POSTER is the one not spending enough time on planet earth??????

Hello? What are you smoking and can I have some?
Conservatives didn't support McCain. And he lost. They stayed home. The only reason some conservatives showed up was for Palin.
Conservative Republicans win elections when they run that way. When they run as moderates they lose. It's pretty simple.
Except if you're stupid.
Paging Rick Santorum!
 
Entire article: GOP Congressman Targeted By 'RINO' Hunters : NPR

By any measure, Republican Rep. Bob Inglis of South Carolina is a solid conservative. In the 1990s, he was a vehement opponent of President Clinton. Last year, he got an "A" from the National Rifle Association, and an 84 percent approval rating from the American Conservative Union. His votes to cut budgets, leave markets unregulated and restrict abortions put him among the most conservative of his party.

.....Yet he is now a political target for elimination next election for not toeing the party line - even when the line was wrong?

And...why is that?

...Last week, Inglis did something that really ticked off some of his constituents. He was one of only seven Republicans who voted in favor of reprimanding South Carolina Rep. Joe Wilson — the man who yelled "you lie" at President Obama during a Sept. 9 speech to Congress.

At a constituent meeting at a Fuddruckers in Greenville, S.C., Inglis tried to explain:

"He admits that he violated the rules, right? And he apologized to the president. And what I said privately was, 'Joe, there's a second thing you gotta do. You gotta apologize to the forum,' " Inglis said.



Inglis' view of what the Republican Party needs to do:

"Our challenge as Republicans is to win at offering solutions with a hopeful, optimistic voice, rather than shrinking the party down to a snarling few who don't present their ideas with optimism, but rather just play on the worst fears of a small group of people," he says.


And what they seem to be doing instead is "purifying" the party with a RINO hunt on those who don't hew strictly to the conservative message.


That will win them indie and moderate votes for sure.


Inglis is an idiot, not unlike yourself.

His political career is over in the GOP as are ALL of the 'independents' who can't find the moral clarity to oppose the Leftist subversion.... Hussein was lying... such is an indisputable, documented FACT...

Censuring Wilson was absurd and to adhere to that was a demonstration of poor judgment; thus demonstrating him being unfit to serve in the US Federal Legislature.
 
The Conservatives will be the death of the once Grand Old Party

They got beat in 2006 and held the line

They got stomped in 2008 and held the line

Now they refuse to budge as their party folds around them

What universe do you inhabit?
Conservatives weren't running in 2006. Conservatives were absent in 2008.
The GOP lost both times because they FAILED at being conservatives. They adopted liberal policies of tax and spend and promise. That's why voters kicked their butts.
Geez, get it right.

It's so strange the way conservatives talk about Democrats and their "tax and spend". It's like they have this idea that Democrats are just throwing money away.

See, Republicans threw money away:

Iraq Reconstruction Auditor Warns of Waste, Fraud in Afghanistan - washingtonpost.com

Now Obama has already received billions in interest from the stimulus package. And he is spending money on America's infrastructure. Take bridges:

Look at this story from 2006:

Minnesota bridges falling down? | Minnesota Public Radio NewsQ

Now a year later:

Minnesota Bridge Collapse - Flash Slideshow Creator, Photo Slideshows for MySpace, YouTube, and Everywhere!

Obama wants to rebuild America's infrastructure, Republicans want to see America FAIL. It's as simple as that.
 
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Inglis is an idiot, not unlike yourself.

His political career is over in the GOP as are ALL of the 'independents' who can't find the moral clarity to oppose the Leftist subversion.... Hussein was lying... such is an indisputable, documented FACT...

Censuring Wilson was absurd and to adhere to that was a demonstration of poor judgment; thus demonstrating him being unfit to serve in the US Federal Legislature.

Damn...well it looks like the Republican's won't get the Independent vote this next election either.
 
The infrastructure program is a joke. They are building airports to nowhere. It is riddled with waste and fraud, and it has hardly gotten going yet.
When a full accounting is done of the porkulus package spending people will be wondering how so much could be spent on so little by so many. Assuming the media report any of it of course.
 
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Inglis is an idiot, not unlike yourself.

His political career is over in the GOP as are ALL of the 'independents' who can't find the moral clarity to oppose the Leftist subversion.... Hussein was lying... such is an indisputable, documented FACT...

Censuring Wilson was absurd and to adhere to that was a demonstration of poor judgment; thus demonstrating him being unfit to serve in the US Federal Legislature.

Damn...well it looks like the Republican's won't get the Independent vote this next election either.

ROFL...

Independents vote with what ever happens to be popular at any given moment... Tides changed Sis... best brace yourself.
 

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