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We mock the fact that he gets you rubes to think this stuff is "free" when we will all end up paying for it, and more than you think because every time some progressive comes up with an idea, government has to create giant bureaucracies to run it, and the overhead on that becomes a significant cost.
In the end we all end up paying for it, even if you just tax "evil" oil companies, wall street firms, and banks, because those people will ALWAYS make their money, and they will find ways to pass any extra costs right down to our level.
Name one person on the left who thinks that we are not all going to be paying for it.
This is where you guys always end up. In fantasy land.
Every Sanders supporter......even the young, idealistic ones....know that the programs that he is proposing are to be paid for with tax dollars.....and that includes their own tax dollars. Especially when the job that they get as a result of being able to attend college earns more money......thus increasing their own tax burden.
Same with health care. Medicare is paid for by everyone. Everyone knows this.
Next bullshit meme, please.
The young has no idea what he is really proposing.
None of them have really worked and paid taxes.
You don't know many young people, do you?
Yes I do.
Maybe you should talk to them yourself, because they really do not understand.
Weeeeeeee! I'm on a retarded Merry-go-round with a nutbag.
Are YOU going to name a Sanders supporter who doesn't know that Sanders' proposed programs are to be paid for with tax dollars? Their tax dollars?
No.....you won't. You'd prefer to make baseless accusations. It's so simple.
The young has no idea what he is really proposing.
None of them have really worked and paid taxes.
Yes indeed, and that is why conservative war mongers like to use those "young" for cannon fodder, right?
Another lefty spin that is not true.
Of the 4,000 plus casualties of the Iraq war, 3200 or so were below the average age of 29.
And we had much more casualties under Dems wars and they were 18 and 19.
Please point out WHERE my response was a "defense" of democrats.
Name one person on the left who thinks that we are not all going to be paying for it.
This is where you guys always end up. In fantasy land.
Every Sanders supporter......even the young, idealistic ones....know that the programs that he is proposing are to be paid for with tax dollars.....and that includes their own tax dollars. Especially when the job that they get as a result of being able to attend college earns more money......thus increasing their own tax burden.
Same with health care. Medicare is paid for by everyone. Everyone knows this.
Next bullshit meme, please.
The young has no idea what he is really proposing.
None of them have really worked and paid taxes.
You don't know many young people, do you?
Yes I do.
Maybe you should talk to them yourself, because they really do not understand.
Weeeeeeee! I'm on a retarded Merry-go-round with a nutbag.
Are YOU going to name a Sanders supporter who doesn't know that Sanders' proposed programs are to be paid for with tax dollars? Their tax dollars?
No.....you won't. You'd prefer to make baseless accusations. It's so simple.
Baseless - it's the kids that I talk to.
These kids have never experienced nor lived through Communism that threated us the past, they have no clue or what socialism or communism is.
They believe their professors that is teaching how wonderful it is.
None or very few of them pay taxes or hold a job or pay for rent and food.
"Their professors that is ( are ) teaching how wonderful it is"? How wonderful what is? Communism? You know kids who are being taught that communism is wonderful? Name the school. Name the professor. You lying idiot.
The young has no idea what he is really proposing.
None of them have really worked and paid taxes.
You don't know many young people, do you?
Yes I do.
Maybe you should talk to them yourself, because they really do not understand.
Weeeeeeee! I'm on a retarded Merry-go-round with a nutbag.
Are YOU going to name a Sanders supporter who doesn't know that Sanders' proposed programs are to be paid for with tax dollars? Their tax dollars?
No.....you won't. You'd prefer to make baseless accusations. It's so simple.
Baseless - it's the kids that I talk to.
These kids have never experienced nor lived through Communism that threated us the past, they have no clue or what socialism or communism is.
They believe their professors that is teaching how wonderful it is.
None or very few of them pay taxes or hold a job or pay for rent and food.
"Their professors that is ( are ) teaching how wonderful it is"? How wonderful what is? Communism? You know kids who are being taught that communism is wonderful? Name the school. Name the professor. You lying idiot.
If I were crazy enough to allow my daughter to communicate with nuts like you, I'd invite her here and she'd school you on what today's young people do and don't know. You'd end up looking and feeling stupid.
Then you should have included the casualties under them also.
did you want me to go all the way back to the French and Indian wars?
You don't know many young people, do you?
Yes I do.
Maybe you should talk to them yourself, because they really do not understand.
Weeeeeeee! I'm on a retarded Merry-go-round with a nutbag.
Are YOU going to name a Sanders supporter who doesn't know that Sanders' proposed programs are to be paid for with tax dollars? Their tax dollars?
No.....you won't. You'd prefer to make baseless accusations. It's so simple.
Baseless - it's the kids that I talk to.
These kids have never experienced nor lived through Communism that threated us the past, they have no clue or what socialism or communism is.
They believe their professors that is teaching how wonderful it is.
None or very few of them pay taxes or hold a job or pay for rent and food.
"Their professors that is ( are ) teaching how wonderful it is"? How wonderful what is? Communism? You know kids who are being taught that communism is wonderful? Name the school. Name the professor. You lying idiot.
If I were crazy enough to allow my daughter to communicate with nuts like you, I'd invite her here and she'd school you on what today's young people do and don't know. You'd end up looking and feeling stupid.
You are intolerant of an opposing view, especially when you name call like that.
One is not the many.
I read the reports and studies.
Study: College Professors Are Socialist Liberals - Say Anything
You don't know many young people, do you?
Yes I do.
Maybe you should talk to them yourself, because they really do not understand.
Weeeeeeee! I'm on a retarded Merry-go-round with a nutbag.
Are YOU going to name a Sanders supporter who doesn't know that Sanders' proposed programs are to be paid for with tax dollars? Their tax dollars?
No.....you won't. You'd prefer to make baseless accusations. It's so simple.
Baseless - it's the kids that I talk to.
These kids have never experienced nor lived through Communism that threated us the past, they have no clue or what socialism or communism is.
They believe their professors that is teaching how wonderful it is.
None or very few of them pay taxes or hold a job or pay for rent and food.
"Their professors that is ( are ) teaching how wonderful it is"? How wonderful what is? Communism? You know kids who are being taught that communism is wonderful? Name the school. Name the professor. You lying idiot.
If I were crazy enough to allow my daughter to communicate with nuts like you, I'd invite her here and she'd school you on what today's young people do and don't know. You'd end up looking and feeling stupid.
You are intolerant of an opposing view, especially when you name call like that.
One is not the many.
I read the reports and studies.
Study: College Professors Are Socialist Liberals - Say Anything
Yes I do.
Maybe you should talk to them yourself, because they really do not understand.
Weeeeeeee! I'm on a retarded Merry-go-round with a nutbag.
Are YOU going to name a Sanders supporter who doesn't know that Sanders' proposed programs are to be paid for with tax dollars? Their tax dollars?
No.....you won't. You'd prefer to make baseless accusations. It's so simple.
Baseless - it's the kids that I talk to.
These kids have never experienced nor lived through Communism that threated us the past, they have no clue or what socialism or communism is.
They believe their professors that is teaching how wonderful it is.
None or very few of them pay taxes or hold a job or pay for rent and food.
"Their professors that is ( are ) teaching how wonderful it is"? How wonderful what is? Communism? You know kids who are being taught that communism is wonderful? Name the school. Name the professor. You lying idiot.
If I were crazy enough to allow my daughter to communicate with nuts like you, I'd invite her here and she'd school you on what today's young people do and don't know. You'd end up looking and feeling stupid.
You are intolerant of an opposing view, especially when you name call like that.
One is not the many.
I read the reports and studies.
Study: College Professors Are Socialist Liberals - Say Anything
I'm intolerant of idiots who don't know what they are talking about. Always have been. I asked for the names of the colleges and universities that the young people who YOU know are attending.....along with the names of the professors who are teaching that communism is wonderful. Where is that info?
Weeeeeeee! I'm on a retarded Merry-go-round with a nutbag.
Are YOU going to name a Sanders supporter who doesn't know that Sanders' proposed programs are to be paid for with tax dollars? Their tax dollars?
No.....you won't. You'd prefer to make baseless accusations. It's so simple.
Baseless - it's the kids that I talk to.
These kids have never experienced nor lived through Communism that threated us the past, they have no clue or what socialism or communism is.
They believe their professors that is teaching how wonderful it is.
None or very few of them pay taxes or hold a job or pay for rent and food.
"Their professors that is ( are ) teaching how wonderful it is"? How wonderful what is? Communism? You know kids who are being taught that communism is wonderful? Name the school. Name the professor. You lying idiot.
If I were crazy enough to allow my daughter to communicate with nuts like you, I'd invite her here and she'd school you on what today's young people do and don't know. You'd end up looking and feeling stupid.
You are intolerant of an opposing view, especially when you name call like that.
One is not the many.
I read the reports and studies.
Study: College Professors Are Socialist Liberals - Say Anything
I'm intolerant of idiots who don't know what they are talking about. Always have been. I asked for the names of the colleges and universities that the young people who YOU know are attending.....along with the names of the professors who are teaching that communism is wonderful. Where is that info?
Sorry if you did not like the study I gave.
Baseless - it's the kids that I talk to.
These kids have never experienced nor lived through Communism that threated us the past, they have no clue or what socialism or communism is.
They believe their professors that is teaching how wonderful it is.
None or very few of them pay taxes or hold a job or pay for rent and food.
"Their professors that is ( are ) teaching how wonderful it is"? How wonderful what is? Communism? You know kids who are being taught that communism is wonderful? Name the school. Name the professor. You lying idiot.
If I were crazy enough to allow my daughter to communicate with nuts like you, I'd invite her here and she'd school you on what today's young people do and don't know. You'd end up looking and feeling stupid.
You are intolerant of an opposing view, especially when you name call like that.
One is not the many.
I read the reports and studies.
Study: College Professors Are Socialist Liberals - Say Anything
I'm intolerant of idiots who don't know what they are talking about. Always have been. I asked for the names of the colleges and universities that the young people who YOU know are attending.....along with the names of the professors who are teaching that communism is wonderful. Where is that info?
Sorry if you did not like the study I gave.
Didn't read it. We were discussing the young people who you know. You made a claim about their professors. I'm asking you to support that claim. Why won't you do that? Were you talking out of your ass?
I just clicked on your link to see what you were offering. It was a blog post. It was not a study. Where is the link to the study?
If the next thing you post is not intelligent, I doubt you and I will have many discussions in the future.
We have a debt problem regardless of which party is in control. The difference is where and what will our government invest in. Republicans invest in multi national corporations and defense. Democrats invest in and on Americans. Better to feed poor people than to build a bomb. And fuck those bomb making jobs. There only customer is us. And they need war so they can sell us more bombsMany of us have learned on this forum that to expect right wingers to be "fair and balanced" (love that Fox slogan) is a fool's errand......Nonetheless, is it really fair to simply state that Sanders is offering "free stuff" without any plan as to how to finance the largess .....or is it just partisan bullshit?
Right wingers may strongly disagree with Sanders about a Medicare for all plan regarding health care insurance, but to be fair, he has stated that indeed a tax would be imposed on individuals and families, but the return on the savings (which would basically screw over PRIVATE health insurers) would be substantial. We may think of ourselves as "exceptional", but such HC deliveries have existed in other industrialized countries for decades and to say that we could not do the same is an admission that we may be far from exceptional.
Second, the "free stuff" regarding college tuition has also been addressed by Sanders....Primarily his source of income would be generated from taxing the gambling speculations of Wall Streeters....but more important is Sanders' reasoning that a college degree in the 21st century is the equivalent of a HS diploma and that we have long made high school attendance both mandatory and free.
You may not agree with Sanders....but at least stick to your proper reasons for the disagreement.
I just clicked on your link to see what you were offering. It was a blog post. It was not a study. Where is the link to the study?
If the next thing you post is not intelligent, I doubt you and I will have many discussions in the future.
I could care less.
Institute for Jewish & Community Research look it up.
Canada sucks. You are losing your manufacturing to China, your landscape is being destroyed by towering Wind Turbines, and you have only survived by selling products to the USA.Many of us have learned on this forum that to expect right wingers to be "fair and balanced" (love that Fox slogan) is a fool's errand......Nonetheless, is it really fair to simply state that Sanders is offering "free stuff" without any plan as to how to finance the largess .....or is it just partisan bullshit?
Right wingers may strongly disagree with Sanders about a Medicare for all plan regarding health care insurance, but to be fair, he has stated that indeed a tax would be imposed on individuals and families, but the return on the savings (which would basically screw over PRIVATE health insurers) would be substantial. We may think of ourselves as "exceptional", but such HC deliveries have existed in other industrialized countries for decades and to say that we could not do the same is an admission that we may be far from exceptional.
Second, the "free stuff" regarding college tuition has also been addressed by Sanders....Primarily his source of income would be generated from taxing the gambling speculations of Wall Streeters....but more important is Sanders' reasoning that a college degree in the 21st century is the equivalent of a HS diploma and that we have long made high school attendance both mandatory and free.
You may not agree with Sanders....but at least stick to your proper reasons for the disagreement.
In Canada we have more of what your cons would consider "free stuff" I think. We call our policies generating this free stuff "socially responsible". Our debt to GDP ratio is around +/- 55%, yours is +/- 95%. As long as Americans insist on maintaining armed forces strong enough to control the rest of the World, continue policies like allowing your major corporations to stash trillions of dollars in offshore tax havens, let economic benefits gained by your country's increased productivity flow to the very top, etc. then of course to pay for a fairer society the U.S. debt would have to continue to rise. Those are choices that the Oligarch's propaganda machine seems to have convinced the majority of you to make in their favor.
Have you idiots even solved your war with the French speaking part of Canada?
Oh, I almost forgot, so that you respond I must say, "eh".
Many of us have learned on this forum that to expect right wingers to be "fair and balanced" (love that Fox slogan) is a fool's errand......Nonetheless, is it really fair to simply state that Sanders is offering "free stuff" without any plan as to how to finance the largess .....or is it just partisan bullshit?
Right wingers may strongly disagree with Sanders about a Medicare for all plan regarding health care insurance, but to be fair, he has stated that indeed a tax would be imposed on individuals and families, but the return on the savings (which would basically screw over PRIVATE health insurers) would be substantial. We may think of ourselves as "exceptional", but such HC deliveries have existed in other industrialized countries for decades and to say that we could not do the same is an admission that we may be far from exceptional.
Second, the "free stuff" regarding college tuition has also been addressed by Sanders....Primarily his source of income would be generated from taxing the gambling speculations of Wall Streeters....but more important is Sanders' reasoning that a college degree in the 21st century is the equivalent of a HS diploma and that we have long made high school attendance both mandatory and free.
You may not agree with Sanders....but at least stick to your proper reasons for the disagreement.
