Is the Democratic Party waking up?

No he didn't. He said there were fine people on both sides.

There weren't fine people on both sides. There were Nazis at a "Unite the Right" campaign, none of whom lived in that city, where they decided on their own a statue of Racist Traitor Robert E. Lee had to go.

There were pro-statue and anti-statue folks there. The Neo-Nazis took over the pro-statue group and Antifa the anti-statue group. Not all the people who were pro-statue were Neo-Nazis and not all people who were anti-statue were Antifa. Not complicated. Very simple.
 
Whats changing is the face of the population.

They are more educated, tolerant, and in touch.

The Democrat-Republican divide of the last 40 years, is becoming less relevant, as the new face of the population comes of age, with a completely different set of priorities.

Older Republicans, are still arguing guns, abortion, and tax cuts. An argument that is completely lost on the new face of America.

They are now seeking out anyone who will continue having these arguments with them.

It's amusing and pathetic at the same time.
I certainly agree that the country is changing, although I think it's a herculean stretch to say we're becoming more tolerant. And I definitely think that this Trumpian period is far more of a last gasp than a permanent change.
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Last gasp of what?
Trumpism.
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Well, Trump will certainly be gone, in at most 6 years, and it is very unlikely that the Republicans will be able to find anyone like him.


But hopefully, they will learn something from him, such as the power to be found by appealing to working class white voters.


not just working class whites, but working class blacks, asians, et. al. This is not a Trump movement it is an american movement, back to the basics that made this country the greatest in the history of the world.


Well, yes, BUT, it has mostly worked with working class whites.


IF, in the next election, Turmpism, shows that it has ANY ability to appeal to working class Americans of other ethnic groups, that would,


A. make it all the more important for the moronic Old Guard to fucking notice and learn from,


and


B. all the more painful, when they probably don't.
 
You just aren't intelligent enough to break away from the mind-meld of the MSM. They LOVE people like you. If you had the ability to look comprehend the economic indicators and the wisdom to admit you could be wrong, you would quickly change your tune.

Guy, the nine of the last ten recessions happened when the REpublicans were in charge. It's not a bug, it's a design feature.

Trump is staving off a crash by pumping shitloads of money we don't have into the markets.. but it's not getting better for most people and they'll be the ones getting fucked when it crashes.

But it is getting better for most people. See that is the MSM mind-meld again. You act as if the market works in a vacuum. Businesses make more money, hire more workers, give raises, invest, etc. It all works together. It is all intimately related.

There is no alternate universe where a plan in like Bernie, Warren, etc. has helps the economy the markets or most people. Everyone knows this, even many dim-witted Socialists. They just don't care because they may be the ones getting short term gain, before everything crashes down. Also, envy consumes them and any rational thought they may have.
 
I certainly agree that the country is changing, although I think it's a herculean stretch to say we're becoming more tolerant. And I definitely think that this Trumpian period is far more of a last gasp than a permanent change.
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Last gasp of what?
Trumpism.
.


Well, Trump will certainly be gone, in at most 6 years, and it is very unlikely that the Republicans will be able to find anyone like him.


But hopefully, they will learn something from him, such as the power to be found by appealing to working class white voters.


not just working class whites, but working class blacks, asians, et. al. This is not a Trump movement it is an american movement, back to the basics that made this country the greatest in the history of the world.


Well, yes, BUT, it has mostly worked with working class whites.


IF, in the next election, Turmpism, shows that it has ANY ability to appeal to working class Americans of other ethnic groups, that would,


A. make it all the more important for the moronic Old Guard to fucking notice and learn from,


and


B. all the more painful, when they probably don't.


we are in agreement but I object to the term Trumpism, because its a lot more than just him. Its the millions of americans who have been desperately wanting a return to sanity in government and our culture in general.
 
There were pro-statue and anti-statue folks there. The Neo-Nazis took over the pro-statue group and Antifa the anti-statue group. Not all the people who were pro-statue were Neo-Nazis and not all people who were anti-statue were Antifa. Not complicated. Very simple.

There was no difference between the Neo-Nazis and the Pro-Statue group. That was the problem. For the people who lived in that town, they voted to get rid of the statue. It was all these Nazis who gathered there to protest it.

Yes, if you were Pro-Statue, you were Neo-nazi. Sorry. Only racists think those statues have any place in our society at this point.
 
But it is getting better for most people. See that is the MSM mind-meld again. You act as if the market works in a vacuum. Businesses make more money, hire more workers, give raises, invest, etc. It all works together. It is all intimately related.

Uh, no, it's really not. If it were, Bernie wouldn't be polling at 49% and ahead of Trump.

It's good for SOME people. Most of us are out here struggling paycheck to paycheck, often working two jobs to make ends meet, saddled with usury levels of Debt. (I'm not personally, but that's because I work my ass off knowing a recession is coming and preparing for it.)

There is no alternate universe where a plan in like Bernie, Warren, etc. has helps the economy the markets or most people. Everyone knows this, even many dim-witted Socialists. They just don't care because they may be the ones getting short term gain, before everything crashes down. Also, envy consumes them and any rational thought they may have.

Again, 62% of the population lives paycheck to paycheck, and would be wiped out by a medical crisis. We'd all be better off in a system that didn't favor the rich.
 
Last gasp of what?
Trumpism.
.


Well, Trump will certainly be gone, in at most 6 years, and it is very unlikely that the Republicans will be able to find anyone like him.


But hopefully, they will learn something from him, such as the power to be found by appealing to working class white voters.


not just working class whites, but working class blacks, asians, et. al. This is not a Trump movement it is an american movement, back to the basics that made this country the greatest in the history of the world.


Well, yes, BUT, it has mostly worked with working class whites.


IF, in the next election, Turmpism, shows that it has ANY ability to appeal to working class Americans of other ethnic groups, that would,


A. make it all the more important for the moronic Old Guard to fucking notice and learn from,


and


B. all the more painful, when they probably don't.


we are in agreement but I object to the term Trumpism, because its a lot more than just him. Its the millions of americans who have been desperately wanting a return to sanity in government and our culture in general.

corny candy thinks this is funny. but its not funny, its what is really happening and you fricken libs are clueless and continue running far left morons. You are destroying your party and are too dumb to realize it.
 
No he didn't. He said there were fine people on both sides.

There weren't fine people on both sides. There were Nazis at a "Unite the Right" campaign, none of whom lived in that city, where they decided on their own a statue of Racist Traitor Robert E. Lee had to go.

There were pro-statue and anti-statue folks there. The Neo-Nazis took over the pro-statue group and Antifa the anti-statue group. Not all the people who were pro-statue were Neo-Nazis and not all people who were anti-statue were Antifa. Not complicated. Very simple.


Everyone knows that. Some assholes pretend to not know that, so they can be assholes and smear good people for no reason.
 
Last gasp of what?
Trumpism.
.


Well, Trump will certainly be gone, in at most 6 years, and it is very unlikely that the Republicans will be able to find anyone like him.


But hopefully, they will learn something from him, such as the power to be found by appealing to working class white voters.


not just working class whites, but working class blacks, asians, et. al. This is not a Trump movement it is an american movement, back to the basics that made this country the greatest in the history of the world.


Well, yes, BUT, it has mostly worked with working class whites.


IF, in the next election, Turmpism, shows that it has ANY ability to appeal to working class Americans of other ethnic groups, that would,


A. make it all the more important for the moronic Old Guard to fucking notice and learn from,


and


B. all the more painful, when they probably don't.


we are in agreement but I object to the term Trumpism, because its a lot more than just him. Its the millions of americans who have been desperately wanting a return to sanity in government and our culture in general.


I don't mind the term. But your point is completely right.
 
Ya actually started with Its trumps fault the dems are so over the top

From the diplomad
End of a diddy's about sniffy

That will leave the Democrats with an avowed Marxist, or what we Cold War veterans would call a Communist, a completely fake gay white version of the fake black Obama, a couple of lesser lights who have managed to keep their "accomplishments" well hidden from view, and a fabulously wealthy fraud who is financing his own campaign and repudiating his accomplishments as mayor of New York to gain the favor of the "woke" crowd.

The DiploMad 2.0: Corruptocrat Joe Shuffles to the Door . . .

Mac wasn't concerned that OBAMA wouldn't be too far over the top, but let Trump talk about restoring America's #1 position greatness and excellence, and it was just too much for Mac and the democrats?

You know how those "centrist" are......
 
Uh, no, it's really not. If it were, Bernie wouldn't be polling at 49% and ahead of Trump

Bernie is polling that high because many Americans are spoiled. They want "free" stuff. It has nothing to do with how well they are capable of doing and everything to do with these folks are envious of "rich" people but don't want to do what is necessary to get there. They want the government to steal it for them. Many are saddled with debt because they are irresponsible and buy $5 Starbucks coffee when they make only make 1/3 of that at best per hour, not because they aren't making enough not to borrow.

Again, 62% of the population lives paycheck to paycheck, and would be wiped out by a medical crisis. We'd all be better off in a system that didn't favor the rich

Get a full time job at a fast food restaurant and get cheap insurance with a low deductable and a low max out of pocket. It isn't difficult, but it does require people to work. Life isn't free. The system doesn't favor my family and we are "rich" by the standards set by the Dems.
 
Jesus, anyone who claims anyone is a "Neo-Nazi" is a f@cking fruitcake whose yamica is on too tight.
 
Actually he sees some Democrats as 'far left' that he likes to broad brush all Democrats with. But I was specifically interested in who he thought was a bigot and far left. He couldn't answer, he realized this and ran away.

I do agree that Democrats do need to talk more about issues that are important to the white working class. I mean they do, they just need to be more obvious about it. The world isn't only transgendered Hispanics. We have lost union memberships that had helped build the middle class. Our infrastructure is a mess and we don't want to send kids off to war anymore. These things affect all of us in one way or another.

Mac's case is, in many ways, quite instructive. Ask yourself this: Have you ever seen him stand up for gender equality? Marriage equality? Reproductive rights? Workers' bargaining powers, strengthening unions? Equitable policing, and rendering justice regardless of skin color or income bracket? Reigning in the power of financial corporations / Wall Street? Have you seen him even taking part in a debate about these issues? It may have happened, but, if so, I missed it. All I can say from my observation is, he doesn't seem to give a shit either way - he sure isn't an anti-choice, racist bigot, and that seems the basis for his claim to be a moderate leftist. All those who feel passionately about the issues listed above he decries as nutters and wingers.

Democrats talk about the issues important to the White working class all the time, they have just one problem with that: The GOP got them on White identity, with the underhanded insinuation that, say, free community college, universal, affordable health care without bankruptcies due to medical bills, or an expanded safety net worth its name helps Those People more than them Whites. That's what I find is the core of the problem Dems are facing in their communication - besides Wall Street Democrats in the pockets of the plutocracy.
I do appreciate your somewhat creepy rants about me, as they provide even more evidence how far up in the heads of nutters (on both ends) I exist here. So, thanks.

My clear, specific stands on those and other issues can be found in the link at the end of the second line of my sig. I couldn't possibly be more forthcoming: 2. >>> For the liars who pretend I claim to be a centrist/moderate/impartial/unbiased/fence-sitter: Come on Jake, man up, just this once.

Or, you could just ASK for my opinion on something. How easy! But, just like the other Regressive Lefties and Talk Radio Trumpsters here (gawd I do love this), you instead choose to make simplistic and shallow assumptions about my positions based on pure ignorance. Don't ask, don't verify, just make silly assumptions, and bitch and attack based on those assumptions.

A fundamental and aggressive lack of intellectual curiosity: Another of the many behaviors and qualities shared by nutters on both ends. Thanks again.

:D
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^Professional victim with acute narcissism.
 
Bernie is polling that high because many Americans are spoiled. They want "free" stuff. It has nothing to do with how well they are capable of doing and everything to do with these folks are envious of "rich" people but don't want to do what is necessary to get there. They want the government to steal it for them. Many are saddled with debt because they are irresponsible and buy $5 Starbucks coffee when they make only make 1/3 of that at best per hour, not because they aren't making enough not to borrow.

So let me get this straight. Starbucks drives all the local coffee shops out of business, then charges $5.00 for a cup of coffee and it's young people's fault for buying it? Really? That's what you are going with?

Marie Antoinette wasn't this clueless.

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Get a full time job at a fast food restaurant and get cheap insurance with a low deductable and a low max out of pocket. It isn't difficult, but it does require people to work. Life isn't free. The system doesn't favor my family and we are "rich" by the standards set by the Dems.

Yes, I'm sure you think that you have the nicest Double Wide in town.

Fuckwad, 62% of bankruptcies are linked to Medical Crisis, and 75% of those people had insurance when the crisis started. No one should be wiped out because someone in the family got sick.
 

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