Is The current government of Israel going to ban a political party?

[RetiredGySgt]

But last time they were not UNBANNED until after the election.

Its sad to see so many who have no idea what democracy and freedom of speech really means.

You are aware both have limits right? Or can you shout "Fire" in a crowded theater?

 

[dilloduck]

They should do it like America does. Just make it impossible for 3rd (or 4th or 5th ---) party candidates to win anything or attain a position that actually comes with power. It doesn't look so heavy handed on the surface.

 

[AmericaFirst]

1.5 million arabs living in Israel with full rights of citizenship would disagree.

And anti-semitic trash who know nothing about the Talmud really shouldn't try to "educate" others about its contents.

You might do better to talk about the contents of the KKK handbook.

Israel bans Arab parties from running in upcoming elections - Haaretz - Israel News

"Arab faction delegates in the CEC walked out of the hall before the vote, shouting, "this is a fascist, racist state." As they walked out, CEC deputy chairman MK David Tal (Kadima) and the Arab delegates pushed each other and a Knesset guard had to intervene and separate them."

"Every time a clear statement to ensure basic civil rights of the Arab minority is required, Labor and Kadima choose to side with the radical right wing for populist motives, to deprive the Arabs of their fundamental democratic rights," party chairman Haim Oron said."

""It was a political trial led by a group of fascists and racists who are willing to see the Knesset without Arabs and want to see the country without Arabs," said Tibi."

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Israel bans Arab parties from running in upcoming elections - Haaretz - Israel News

"Arab faction delegates in the CEC walked out of the hall before the vote, shouting, "this is a fascist, racist state." As they walked out, CEC deputy chairman MK David Tal (Kadima) and the Arab delegates pushed each other and a Knesset guard had to intervene and separate them."

"Every time a clear statement to ensure basic civil rights of the Arab minority is required, Labor and Kadima choose to side with the radical right wing for populist motives, to deprive the Arabs of their fundamental democratic rights," party chairman Haim Oron said."

""It was a political trial led by a group of fascists and racists who are willing to see the Knesset without Arabs and want to see the country without Arabs," said Tibi."

And yet they get voted in every election cycle because the Courts throw out the stupid political moves of some Israelis. That is what the Courts are for, to provide a check on a Legislature gone nuts.

 

[dilloduck]

And yet they get voted in every election cycle because the Courts throw out the stupid political moves of some Israelis. That is what the Courts are for, to provide a check on a Legislature gone nuts.

Let's be real----they are token Arabs who will never have any real political power. Never.

 

[Ravi]

I guess it would be fruitless to note that the Israelis once banned a group that wanted to boot all Arabs out of Israel.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Let's be real----they are token Arabs who will never have any real political power. Never.

Lets be real they are a minority which keeps them from ever having a majority. But you spin it your way all you want.

 

[dilloduck]

Lets be real they are a minority which keeps them from ever having a majority. But you spin it your way all you want.

We have a minority president. Do you expect a minorty president in Israel anytime soon ?

 

[AmericaFirst]

Lets be real they are a minority which keeps them from ever having a majority. But you spin it your way all you want.

As in America - Mob rules.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

We have a minority president. Do you expect a minorty president in Israel anytime soon ?

Not the same kind of system so the answer is no. Also it took us 232 years to do that, Israel is only what? 60?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

As in America - Mob rules.

As in Democracy, ANY form of it, including a Republic.

 

[dilloduck]

Not the same kind of system so the answer is no. Also it took us 232 years to do that, Israel is only what? 60?

You ain't kidding they have a different kind of system. Let's not pretend it's a democracy like America where minorities DO have a chance at power. And I beleive most Americans would agree that it was terribly immoral of America to take 232 years to acheive what we have now.

 

[AmericaFirst]

As in Democracy, ANY form of it, including a Republic.

Democracy leads to Communism and Kleptocracy, Republic leads to Freedom and Liberty

Guns and Butter for Wednesday, October 8th, 2008

 

[BlackAsCoal]

Israel bans Arab parties from running in upcoming elections

The Central Elections Committee (CEC) yesterday banned the Arab parties United Arab List-Ta'al and Balad from running in next month's parliamentary elections amid accusations of racism from Arab MKs. Both parties intend to challenge the decision in the Supreme Court.

Members of the CEC conceded yesterday that the chance of the Supreme Court's upholding the ban on both parties was slim.

Arab faction delegates in the CEC walked out of the hall before the vote, shouting, "this is a fascist, racist state." As they walked out, CEC deputy chairman MK David Tal (Kadima) and the Arab delegates pushed each other and a Knesset guard had to intervene and separate them.

more at link --
Israel bans Arab parties from running in upcoming elections - Haaretz - Israel News

Further expanded on by an Israeli, Neve Gordon, who teaches politics at Ben-Gurion University Israel ...

The Only Democracy in the Middle East? - Most Israelis Don't Believe It (or Support It)

excerpt --

"In order to examine this issue, one must first determine Israel's international borders. Insofar as Israel's borders extend from the Jordan Valley to the Mediterranean Sea -- the de-facto situation for over 36 years -- then the state of Israel currently consists of a population of over 9 million people, 3.5 million of whom cannot vote.

De-facto, then, Israel is not a democracy. One-third of the demos does not enjoy a series of basic rights which make up the pillars of liberal democracies. The state of Israel has existed for 55 years and has controlled the Palestinian population in the occupied territories without giving them political rights for two-thirds of this period. Accordingly, the notion that the occupation is provisional or temporary should, by now, be considered an illusion concealing the reality on the ground.

If, however, one chooses to explore the issue exclusively from a de-jure perspective, that is, from inside the internationally recognized pre-1967 territories, it is still unclear to what extent Israel is a democracy.

There is the question of 400,000 Jewish Settlers -- seven percent of the citizenry -- all of whom enjoy full citizenship rights but do not live in Israel proper. This leads to a series of contradictions, not least the fact that Israel is the only country in the world where government ministers and parliament members live permanently outside its borders.

Even if one were to disregard this reality as well and were only to take into account the six million people living inside Israel proper, one would find an extremely tenuous democracy. The contradictions that have characterized Israel's policies in the occupied territories are now catching up to the state, and their detrimental effects have become apparent for all to see.

Consider a report just published by the Israeli Democracy Institute (IDI), which like most other think tanks (in Israel and abroad), conceives of Israel in the de-jure sense, ignoring the de-facto situation. IDI examined several aspects of Israel's democracy, and its findings suggest that "over the last few years there has been a significant decline in the Jewish population's support of democratic norms on all levels: general support of the democratic system, support of specific democratic values, and support for equal rights for the Arab minority."

IDI found that only 77 percent of the Jewish population supports the statement that "democracy is the best form of government," the lowest percentage (alongside Poland) among the 32 countries for which there is available data. Over half the population (56%) is of the opinion that "strong leaders can be more useful to the state than all the deliberations and laws." Fifty percent concur that if there is a conflict between security interests and the preservation of the rule of law, the former should take precedence. And only 57 percent agree with the statement that violence should never be used to attain political objectives.

More than half of the Jews in Israel (53%) state that they are against full equality for the Arabs; 77 percent say there should be a Jewish majority on crucial political decisions; less than a third (31%) support having Arab political parties in the government; and the majority (57%) think that the Arabs should be encouraged to emigrate. Not only is the majority of the Jewish population against the provision of equal rights for Arab citizens, half of the Jews are even unwilling to face up to the fact that Palestinian citizens of Israel are discriminated against."

more at link --
Neve Gordon: The Only Democracy in the Middle East

By the polling it appears that Israeli Jews don't even believe in the concepts of democracy.

Add to this that there are all kind of laws in Israel that overtly discriminate against arabs and deny them equal representation in government.

The myth that Israel is a democracy is quite simply a lie.

 

[BlackAsCoal]

Surprise, surprise .. who would have thunk it?

 

[WillowTree]

Boo Hoo!

 

[BlackAsCoal]

Boo Hoo!

Why the fake tears?

I not only expected this, I welcome it.

Proves my point .. in fact, proves lots of points.

 

[WillowTree]

Why the fake tears?

I not only expected this, I welcome it.

Proves my point .. in fact, proves lots of points.

You make absolutely no sense.

 

[Andrew2382]

My respect for Isreal went out the window when they started selling American military technology to China.

What a scumbag thing to do

They also have the balls to ask to be in the F-22 program which the United states laughed at them

Then pleaded to be incorporated in the F-35 program which they got denied as well.

 

[Diuretic]

Israel is a Jewish state, created by and for Jews. Of course they are not going to allow extremist, Jew-hating Arabs to take over their political arena.

I was always under the impression that the constitution of Israel was secular. If that's the case then it follows that any decisions made to ban a political party - if the ban was upheld as being in line with the constitution of Israel - then the ban would have been on secular and not religious grounds. But then my reasoning does rest on my claim that the constitution is secular.