is ted cruz eligible to run ??

I'm just asking for a name. Who has claimed that Obama said he was born outside the US?

he did, but things got changed. a lot of things, but that's conspiracy theory for now.

Who says he did?

No one said it, aren't you keeping up? It appeared, no one said it, no one wrote it. It just was suddenly on the paper and it was repeated by the publisher of his autobiography

What paper are you referring to?

And if Obama wasn't the one that said he was born outside the US, then how can Obama be the 'first birther'?

Your claims seem a little....confused.

Begging the question

Oh, your claims seem quite confused. As your accusation and your evidence don't match.

So who said Obama claimed to have been born outside the US? And what paper are you referring to?
 
He is a fucking canadian and his father is a Cuban wetback.
great another racist, see steve ? you are ruining this neighborhood.

i'm out of here before the grand wizard whitey slithers back :420:
:lol: I am not a racist. Far from it. I love wetbacks. You have to learn...in order to avoid getting banned on USMB, you have to use racist terms...that way the rules don't apply. Welcme to USMB...you gotta fit in.

Wetbacks are Mexicans moron. Can't you keep your own bigotry straight?
I make my own rules, sweetie. Wetbacks are what I want them to be.

And moron is what you are, moon pie
ok...but Ted Cruz is still a fucking canadian born to a wetback father.
 
He is a fucking canadian and his father is a Cuban wetback.
great another racist, see steve ? you are ruining this neighborhood.

i'm out of here before the grand wizard whitey slithers back :420:
:lol: I am not a racist. Far from it. I love wetbacks. You have to learn...in order to avoid getting banned on USMB, you have to use racist terms...that way the rules don't apply. Welcme to USMB...you gotta fit in.
what about that picture, good god, i mean who does that help ??

do tell me you love wetbacks the way obama admires/enjoys pit bulls.
 
He is a fucking canadian and his father is a Cuban wetback.
great another racist, see steve ? you are ruining this neighborhood.

i'm out of here before the grand wizard whitey slithers back :420:
:lol: I am not a racist. Far from it. I love wetbacks. You have to learn...in order to avoid getting banned on USMB, you have to use racist terms...that way the rules don't apply. Welcme to USMB...you gotta fit in.
what about that picture, good god, i mean who does that help ??

do tell me you love wetbacks the way obama admires/enjoys pit bulls.

what couldn't i use as an avatar, is it just thunderdome, any limitations??, a people fucking gif (animated raster) would be less offensive.how about a gif beheading or burning ?. what about a petition... i do hope the higher ups weigh in on this cause it's both disturbing and important.

i'll take you at you word (not that you care)
but wetback is highly offensive, not just to people of color.
 
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He is a fucking canadian and his father is a Cuban wetback.
great another racist, see steve ? you are ruining this neighborhood.

i'm out of here before the grand wizard whitey slithers back :420:
:lol: I am not a racist. Far from it. I love wetbacks. You have to learn...in order to avoid getting banned on USMB, you have to use racist terms...that way the rules don't apply. Welcme to USMB...you gotta fit in.
what about that picture, good god, i mean who does that help ??

do tell me you love wetbacks the way obama admires/enjoys pit bulls.
I have a Jodi Arias fetish. I am what I am.
 
He is a fucking canadian and his father is a Cuban wetback.
great another racist, see steve ? you are ruining this neighborhood.

i'm out of here before the grand wizard whitey slithers back :420:
:lol: I am not a racist. Far from it. I love wetbacks. You have to learn...in order to avoid getting banned on USMB, you have to use racist terms...that way the rules don't apply. Welcme to USMB...you gotta fit in.
what about that picture, good god, i mean who does that help ??

do tell me you love wetbacks the way obama admires/enjoys pit bulls.

what couldn't i use as an avatar, is it just thunderdome. what about a petition... i do hope the higher up weigh in on this cause it's both disturbing and important. i'll take you at you word but wetback is highly offensive, not just to people of color.
I am a negro myself.
 
He is a fucking canadian and his father is a Cuban wetback.
great another racist, see steve ? you are ruining this neighborhood.

i'm out of here before the grand wizard whitey slithers back :420:
:lol: I am not a racist. Far from it. I love wetbacks. You have to learn...in order to avoid getting banned on USMB, you have to use racist terms...that way the rules don't apply. Welcme to USMB...you gotta fit in.
what about that picture, good god, i mean who does that help ??

do tell me you love wetbacks the way obama admires/enjoys pit bulls.
I have a Jodi Arias fetish. I am what I am.


conjugal sex is the best according to seinfeld. write to her man...:blues:
 
he did, but things got changed. a lot of things, but that's conspiracy theory for now.

Who says he did?

No one said it, aren't you keeping up? It appeared, no one said it, no one wrote it. It just was suddenly on the paper and it was repeated by the publisher of his autobiography

What paper are you referring to?

And if Obama wasn't the one that said he was born outside the US, then how can Obama be the 'first birther'?

Your claims seem a little....confused.

Begging the question

Oh, your claims seem quite confused. As your accusation and your evidence don't match.

So who said Obama claimed to have been born outside the US? And what paper are you referring to?

There is one person would could say Obama was born in Kenya that Meriam would not have felt it necessary to fact check. The original birther, Obama
 
why need to factcheck ? he wrote it.

also, fact check ... that book ?? now that's funny. then we can fackcheck moby dick, the grapes of wrath... who's afraid of virginia woolfe ? the pee wee herman story needs factchecking too.
 
Who says he did?

No one said it, aren't you keeping up? It appeared, no one said it, no one wrote it. It just was suddenly on the paper and it was repeated by the publisher of his autobiography

What paper are you referring to?

And if Obama wasn't the one that said he was born outside the US, then how can Obama be the 'first birther'?

Your claims seem a little....confused.

Begging the question

Oh, your claims seem quite confused. As your accusation and your evidence don't match.

So who said Obama claimed to have been born outside the US? And what paper are you referring to?

There is one person would could say Obama was born in Kenya that Meriam would not have felt it necessary to fact check. The original birther, Obama

Says you, pretending to Miriam Goderich. And of course, ignoring anything Miriam Goderich has to say for herself. Back in reality, there's a much simpler explanation.

Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya.

Barack Hussein Obama II was born in Hawaii.

But per you, its inconceivable how those could ever get mixed up? Um, no. Its entirely conceivable. And I noticed you completely abandoned any mention of 'the paper', didn't you? Did you get your innuendo and baseless speculation twisted? Or did you actually check the NY Times, the Chicago Tribune and the LA Times....

......and found that they all indicated Obama was born in Hawaii. BEFORE the pamphlet was written.

So much for your latest piece of conspiracy batshit of Obama being the 'first birther'.
 
why need to factcheck ? he wrote it.

also, fact check ... that book ?? now that's funny. then we can fackcheck moby dick, the grapes of wrath... who's afraid of virginia woolfe ? the pee wee herman story needs factchecking too.

No, he didn't. And what book are you referring to?

Name the book. Or is the book like Kaz's 'paper'.......a vague innuendo that's abandoned the moment its challenged?
 
back to eligibility:

now, we had this conversation, when i asked if william and kate were visiting and she had the baby, could she (the baby natural born) grow up to be us president.

someone gave some example of special circumstances excluding royalty and their offspring...bs

then i asked, what if it someone on the royal staff,? she has their kid here, both parents are british subjects... can that citizen be US president or vice...?

it's a pretty simple question.

where in the constitution is the one parent definition. where in the constitution does it say there are only two kinds of citizens. fi9nally, where in the constitution does it say "we're leaving natural born undefined so in the future skylar can lead a team of specialists to interpret the clause"


Thinkwell sets the record straight:

Natural born Citizen is NOT the same as natural born subject. The founders very specifically rejected the idea of natural born subjects, a term implying an irrevocable fealty to an elite sovereign. Natural born subject was a term of ownership and was used, among other things, to justify impressing as many able bodied, but otherwise unwilling "subjects" into his majesty's royal service as possible (typically as sailors). For this reason (gathering up as many able bodies as possible), qualification as a natural born subject was like a logical OR operation, thus being born of either of the blood of a subject or within the king's realm was qualification enough.

The founders thoroughly rejected this idea and considered every citizen as sovereign -- we were founded as a nation of sovereign Citizens, none higher than any other. Politicians, even up to and including the president, were intended to be the servants of We the People, the exact opposite of the system natural born subjects suffer under. The founders were familiar with the term "natural born subject" and they rejected it in its entirety.

Furthermore, it is ludicrous on its face to assume that the founders, who were articulately deliberate and elegantly succinct in their writings, inserted an entirely superfluous word into the phrase "natural born Citizen." If they had meant only "born citizen" that is exactly what they would have written, but they did not. As Chief Justice Roger B. Taney wrote in Holmes v. Jennison (1840):

"In expounding the Constitution of the United States, every word must have its due force, and appropriate meaning; for it is evident from the whole instrument, that no word was unnecessarily used, or needlessly added. The many discussions which have taken place upon the construction of the constitution, have proved the correctness of this proposition; and shown the high talent, the caution, and the foresight of the illustrious men who framed it. Every word appears to have been weighed with the utmost deliberation, and its force and effect to have been fully understood."
The purpose of the presidential eligibility requirement was to ensure that those born with a naturally divided allegiance be excluded from ever becoming our commander-in-chief. For this reason, qualification as a natural born Citizen was like a logical AND operation, thus one must born one hundred percent exclusively American, both of blood (of two citizen parents) and of dirt (within our territorial jurisdiction).


Read more at Class Time Natural Born Citizen Is NOT The Same As Natural Born Subject Subjects Or Citizens - Birther Report
 
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No one said it, aren't you keeping up? It appeared, no one said it, no one wrote it. It just was suddenly on the paper and it was repeated by the publisher of his autobiography

What paper are you referring to?

And if Obama wasn't the one that said he was born outside the US, then how can Obama be the 'first birther'?

Your claims seem a little....confused.

Begging the question

Oh, your claims seem quite confused. As your accusation and your evidence don't match.

So who said Obama claimed to have been born outside the US? And what paper are you referring to?

There is one person would could say Obama was born in Kenya that Meriam would not have felt it necessary to fact check. The original birther, Obama

Says you, pretending to Miriam Goderich. And of course, ignoring anything Miriam Goderich has to say for herself. Back in reality, there's a much simpler explanation.

Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya.

Barack Hussein Obama II was born in Hawaii.

But per you, its inconceivable how those could ever get mixed up? Um, no. Its entirely conceivable. And I noticed you completely abandoned any mention of 'the paper', didn't you? Did you get your innuendo and baseless speculation twisted? Or did you actually check the NY Times, the Chicago Tribune and the LA Times....

......and found that they all indicated Obama was born in Hawaii. BEFORE the pamphlet was written.

So much for your latest piece of conspiracy batshit of Obama being the 'first birther'.

LOL, only to a completely vacant mind filled with blind ideology like yours. So not only do you question nothing and accept Meriam's word even when she gave a completely non-specific answer but you fill in her missing details with pure conjecture and you don't take questions.

1) Why didn't Meriam say who created the story he was born in Kenya? She said she didn't fact check it, she did not say who actually created the statement he was born in Kenya. I realize your conjecture is enough for you, but pretend it isn't. Why did Meriam in coming clean give a half story?

2) How the hell can a fact checker who's job is to fact check not fact check a BLURB? It was one paragraph. And why did she give no explanation as to WHY she didn't fact check it?

3) Why do you accept a half story from a fact checker who by her own statement can't fact check a blurb when fact checking is her job on blind faith and you call the British PM and British intelligence liars when you like Wilson have zero knowledge of what they based their intelligence on? Hypocrisy much?

4) Why do you accept the word of a President who's a proven compulsive liar? Benghazi, Fast and Furious, Obamacare, Middle East policy, having a transparent administration. He just goes from one lie to another. Fast and Furious he claimed to have not known then used Executive Privilege to cover it up which requires him to have known. If we didn't have a leftist media sucking him off or if a Republican tried that they'd be setting themselves on fire in Lafayette Park demanding answers.

That Obama created the statement 4 years before his autobiography strengthens that it was him. That was my one question, why would he say he was born in Kenya at the same time he wrote in his book he was born in Hawaii? You answered that one, he didn't. He said it 4 years earlier. Thanks for blowing out the one defense he had.
 
Why did Meriam in coming clean give a half story?

half typed half written..;);).. plus no one told bill ayers, he would have caught the error right off.
 
Who says he did?

No one said it, aren't you keeping up? It appeared, no one said it, no one wrote it. It just was suddenly on the paper and it was repeated by the publisher of his autobiography

What paper are you referring to?

And if Obama wasn't the one that said he was born outside the US, then how can Obama be the 'first birther'?

Your claims seem a little....confused.

Begging the question

Oh, your claims seem quite confused. As your accusation and your evidence don't match.

So who said Obama claimed to have been born outside the US? And what paper are you referring to?

There is one person would could say Obama was born in Kenya that Meriam would not have felt it necessary to fact check. The original birther, Obama

So are you speculating or lying when you claim Obama is the original birther?
 

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