Is slavery wrong?

[presonorek]

If you think slavery is morally acceptable, then I claim you as my own. Now go fix dinner, and then wash my car...

I have done things much more strenuous than fixing dinner and washing cars. I'm sure I would be capable of handling your demands. It could be a win-win for both of us if you have lots of work than needs to be done around your house. If you are anything like me then you have a bunch of things around your house that you have been putting off for 10 years. If you had a slave those tasks could be finished in weeks if not days.

So, you volunteering?

Slaves don't volunteer but I believe I would thrive as a slave. You'd be very pleased with my service towards you. I could make you very wealthy and make your surroundings very comfortable and aesthetically pleasing. Without slavery I lay around, watch TV, look at porn, post on USMB and frequently throw fits because of my disgusting lifestyle and my lack of discipline. I'd probably make an exceptional slave. I'm a pathetic and disgusting Freeman that will never have anything beautiful. Freedom is equally as cruel as slavery. Only the homeless and broke get to utilize freedom anyways . All of us have freedom but we never utilize it. What good is freedom if it is never used?

 

[pinqy]

What moral basis did we use to come to the conclusion that slavery was wrong?

Who cares about moral basis? It's wrong on an economic basis. It's an inefficient use of resources, and slaves will only work hard enough not to get beaten, which makes productivity lesser. Plus slaves need more supervision and security.

 

[there4eyeM]

As the basis for 'morality' is human, we can use is as we wish.

Most of us would agree on what is 'moral', but 'morals', like 'rights', ultimately are what humans recognize and practice.

Those confused about how the mind functions find this all too much to accept. They seek to impose an 'objective', 'absolute' formula on their reality, as if such things could exist.

 

[presonorek]

Yes, slavery is wrong. Next?

Based on what? The majority opinion of people living today?

 

[irosie91]

Yes, slavery is wrong. Next?

Based on what? The majority opinion of people living today?

give unko a chance----he is gathering his thoughts

 

[Unkotare]

Yes, slavery is wrong. Next?

Based on what?

Based on the definition of the terms involved.

 

[irosie91]

Yes, slavery is wrong. Next?

Based on what?

Based on the definition of the terms involved.

a value judgement in a vacuum-----even Einstein knew---
ALL THINGS ARE RELATIVE

 

[presonorek]

Based on the definition of the terms involved.

The definition of slavery was the same 10,000 years ago. It was consider normal.

Today it is morally reprehensible to own another human being.

I am speculating that you are basing your argument on the modern view on slavery and nothing else.

 

[irosie91]

Based on the definition of the terms involved.

The definition of slavery was the same 10,000 years ago. It was consider normal.

Today it is morally reprehensible to own another human being.

I am speculating that you are basing your argument on the modern view on slavery and nothing else.

different societies----even in the distant past--had different customs and laws regarding slavery. do not aggravate
unko. He is very sensitive----long ago I told him to comb
his hair-------and DESTROYED out relationship FOREVER

 

[Unkotare]

Yes, slavery is wrong. Next?

Based on what?

Based on the definition of the terms involved.

a value judgement in a vacuum-----even Einstein knew---
ALL THINGS ARE RELATIVE

Einstein understood very well the essential importance of morality.

 

[presonorek]

Einstein understood very well the essential importance of morality.

Do you understand the essential importance of morality?

 

[Unkotare]

Based on the definition of the terms involved.

The definition of slavery was the same 10,000 years ago. It was consider normal.

Today it is morally reprehensible to own another human being.

I am speculating that you are basing your argument on the modern view on slavery and nothing else.

You 'reason' like a simple child.

 

[presonorek]

You 'reason' like a simple child.

You write one sentence at a time.

 

[Unkotare]

Einstein understood very well the essential importance of morality.

Do you understand the essential importance of morality?

It is extremely likely that I understand it more comprehensively than you are ever going to.

 

[Unkotare]

You 'reason' like a simple child.

You write one sentence at a time.

So does just about everyone else.

 

[presonorek]

So does just about everyone else.

No. That isn't true at all. It always sticks out when someone refuses to participate in the discussion. I can only think of one other time that I have seen this and it wasn't even here on US Message Board. It was on another message board.

You are the only one that only posts one sentence at a time. It's like you have absolutely nothing to say.

 

[Unkotare]

So does just about everyone else.

No. That isn't true at all. ....

If you think about it for a second you'll realize your error (unless you really are hopelessly stupid).

 

[presonorek]

So does just about everyone else.

No. That isn't true at all. ....

If you think about it for a second you'll realize your error (unless you really are hopelessly stupid).

Yes. I write one sentence at a time and so does everyone else. You write one sentence per post. Most people with an elementary education can promote their thoughts and ideas in a coherent way. You seem to be afraid to even try.

 

[Unkotare]

So does just about everyone else.

No. That isn't true at all. ....

If you think about it for a second you'll realize your error (unless you really are hopelessly stupid).

Yes. I write one sentence at a time and so does everyone else. You write one sentence per post. Most people with an elementary education can promote their thoughts and ideas in a coherent way. You seem to be afraid to even try.

Oh, you're trying to play "U'm edumakated mur then U!"




Impressive.

 

[presonorek]

Oh, you're trying to play "U'm edumakated mur then U!"

Impressive.

That's a given. I'm saying you are less educated than 98% of the people who post in here or you are pretending to be less educated than 98% of the people. Either way. It is pretty annoying that you participate in discussions but refuse to contribute.