Is killing abortion doctors a moral right?

[BreezeWood]

If you believe so strongly that it's ok to kill humans in order to save the planet. . .

I certainly believe the Garden Earth is more important than one species, humanity - and live life accordingly so to be admitted to the Everlasting ...

its a carnivorous planet both Fauna and Flora, what goes around comes around I suggest you starve yourself to death so as not to take from others to provide for what has yet to be fed.

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I'm sure that makes sense to a complete simpleton such as yourself. Thankfully, most people who have more than three brain cells in their cranium already know that the amount of food on the planet is not finite. That starving one person does not feed another, etc.

That said, if you seriously think it's for the greater good?

You go first.

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Thankfully, most people who have more than three brain cells in their cranium already know that the amount of food on the planet is not finite.

Chuz: I'm sure that makes sense to a complete simpleton such as yourself.

I'm a little lost, all food in our Garden is living prior to their demise - isn't that your first criteria and to believe life on Earth is not finite or that you do not take a life to survive is absurd ...

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That said, if you seriously think it's for the greater good?

You go first.

your confused, the greater good is Garden Earth not humanity and that is why the remediation is made lawful.

In believe nothing in this direction ... As far as I'm able to see exists indeed a moral right to defend human beings against abortion executioners ... It exists even in a much more clear way than Georg Elser had the moral right to kill Adolf Hitler.

In believe nothing in this direction ...

which direction, humanity is the Almighty's choice over Garden Earth and since you have no problem with killing what makes your decision any different than the woman's ...

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[zaangalewa]

... Hmm ... God knows everything and some people know everything better: My doctor loves unicorns.

Here is a picture from this mediator of transcendence:

Wisconsin born 1994
Texas killed 2012
Connecticut born 2012

Buffalo nor a myth
Siberian unicorn was a rhinoceros that went extinct 30,000 yr ago
Narwal is a whale
A deer in Italy was found with a genetic deformity with on horn

A unicorn however is the stuff of fables

Ah - you met Aesop - nevertheless a unicorn is a unicorn and enemies of unicorns are ... not nice.

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The Scorpion and the Frog

A scorpion and a frog meet on the bank of a stream and the scorpion asks the frog to carry him across on its back. The frog asks, "How do I know you won't sting me?" The scorpion says, "Because if I do, I will die too." The frog is satisfied, and they set out, but in midstream, the scorpion stings the frog. The frog feels the onset of paralysis and starts to sink, knowing they both will drown, but has just enough time to gasp "Why?" Replies the scorpion: "It's my nature..."
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Is it your nature to be for abortions? Are you able to imagine that a world without abortion could be a much more nice and happy world?

It's in my nature to support women and women's rights.

It would seem it is in your nature to believe fairy tales.

I don't believe it's the nature of scorpions to do what Aesop said. Nevertheless I believe in this nature of scorpions he spoke about. Example: If you are for 50% of the human rights - the rights of women, because male frogs don't have human rights - why do you think it is okay to kill women in their mothers womb?

(PS: Damn! Did I call here women "Scorpions"? My sister will kill me! Better not to die as she did and not to meet her in her heavenly California.)

If someone killed you tomorrow it would be murder. Abortion in the first months by tea, bitter water or medically is not murder. Not in your bible, not under the law in most of the world.
In the last trimester when the fetus has a chance to survive outside the womb, there are in some cases consequences.
Not something for you to judge or take matters in you own hands.

Many countries don't execute criminal, even murders. If Germany has banned capital punishment, why would you presume to justify the killing of a doctor?

no comment

 

[zaangalewa]

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In believe nothing in this direction ... As far as I'm able to see exists indeed a moral right to defend human beings against abortion executioners ... It exists even in a much more clear way than Georg Elser had the moral right to kill Adolf Hitler.

In believe nothing in this direction ...

which direction, humanity is the Almighty's choice over Garden Earth and since you have no problem with killing what makes your decision any different than the woman's ...

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You are a liar by reducing what I said to something what I did not say. I said in the same text very clear that I don't think to kill someone will solve the problem abortion. And you know this. So shame on you. This changes nothing in the moral right to do so. Nevertheless a right is not a duty. I would be interested to hear why it is not a moral right to do so. But in the moment it looks like as if it is really in the way that to kill abortion executioners is a moral right in the quality of extended self defense. So someone, who is doing so, is not really a murderer.

 

[BreezeWood]

But in the moment it looks like as if it is really in the way that to kill abortion executioners is a moral right in the quality of extended self defense. So someone, who is doing so, is not really a murderer.

I said in the same text very clear that I don't think to kill someone will solve the problem abortion.

zaa: that I don't think to kill someone will solve the problem abortion.


the problem is not abortion that is being solved and has immeasurable other components employed for the same outcome including the last line of defense, something as simple as simply not having sex has the same result as administering an abortion.

are you as willing to murder an abstentionist for the same reason or is physical intimidation what you reserve for pregnant women only ?

I disagree I have confused your answers ... Bully.

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[zaangalewa]

But in the moment it looks like as if it is really in the way that to kill abortion executioners is a moral right in the quality of extended self defense. So someone, who is doing so, is not really a murderer.

I said in the same text very clear that I don't think to kill someone will solve the problem abortion.

zaa: that I don't think to kill someone will solve the problem abortion.


the problem is not abortion that is being solved and has immeasurable other components employed for the same outcome including the last line of defense, something as simple as simply not having sex has the same result as administering an abortion.

are you as willing to murder an abstentionist for the same reason or is physical intimidation what you reserve for pregnant women only ?

I disagree I have confused your answers ... Bully.

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I guess I understand what and how you think. But the problem is abortion. Abortion is every year more than a civil war. If every year someone in the world would kill a million US-Americans then "you" (= the USA) would nuke down the half planet.

 

[aris2chat]

But in the moment it looks like as if it is really in the way that to kill abortion executioners is a moral right in the quality of extended self defense. So someone, who is doing so, is not really a murderer.

I said in the same text very clear that I don't think to kill someone will solve the problem abortion.

zaa: that I don't think to kill someone will solve the problem abortion.


the problem is not abortion that is being solved and has immeasurable other components employed for the same outcome including the last line of defense, something as simple as simply not having sex has the same result as administering an abortion.

are you as willing to murder an abstentionist for the same reason or is physical intimidation what you reserve for pregnant women only ?

I disagree I have confused your answers ... Bully.

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I guess I understand what and how you think. But the problem is abortion. Abortion is every year more than a civil war. If every year someone in the world would kill a million US-Americans then "you" (= the USA) would nuke down the half planet.

Why is a german so concerned with the laws in the US?
The law in the US says abortion is a private matter and up to the woman. We also sell pills over the counter at any pharmacy which can be taken up to 70 days.
Where I grew up, I would teach women what herbs and food to take. It was a matter in most cases of saving their lives. They had been abused enough. I've een too many girls and women killed and too many that nearly died in child birth. Under the circumstances it was far from the right conditions to raise a child or their lives.

You have no right to tell others they cannot seek a legal abortion. If it is against your principles, don't get one. Others have the right to decide what is best for their life.

children
Neglect 62.8%
Physical abuse 16.6%
Sexual abuse 9.3%
Emotional/psychological abuse 7.1%

517 babies were dumped
287 of those were found dead
million are waiting for home

How is it right to put children in put in such situation? What of all the children having children. Girls not ready to be a parent?

Not you place to judge or criticize

Abortion is legal

 

[zaangalewa]

But in the moment it looks like as if it is really in the way that to kill abortion executioners is a moral right in the quality of extended self defense. So someone, who is doing so, is not really a murderer.

I said in the same text very clear that I don't think to kill someone will solve the problem abortion.

zaa: that I don't think to kill someone will solve the problem abortion.


the problem is not abortion that is being solved and has immeasurable other components employed for the same outcome including the last line of defense, something as simple as simply not having sex has the same result as administering an abortion.

are you as willing to murder an abstentionist for the same reason or is physical intimidation what you reserve for pregnant women only ?

I disagree I have confused your answers ... Bully.

.

I guess I understand what and how you think. But the problem is abortion. Abortion is every year more than a civil war. If every year someone in the world would kill a million US-Americans then "you" (= the USA) would nuke down the half planet.

Why is a german so concerned with the laws in the US?

I'm not concerned about any laws. We need justice - but we should not need laws, even if this laws would be indeed a mirror of the real justice. But sometimes laws have less than nothing to do with justice. You are for example able to defend your rights. An aborted baby is not able to defend the right not to be aborted. Instead of such a baby I try to defend their rights.

The law in the US says

¿"Whatever the USA is doing is good - whatever anyone else is doing is bad, except it is good for the USA"?

abortion is a private matter and up to the woman.

So the USA denies the human rights. The human right to live is not a private matter.

We also sell pills over the counter at any pharmacy which can be taken up to 70 days.

Pills? - I guess you mean pills which cause an abort up to the 70th day of gestation. I heard such pills have very heavy collateral effects. By the way - Here is a picture of a human being in the 10th week (=70 days):

Where I grew up, I would teach women what herbs and food to take. It was a matter in most cases of saving their lives. They had been abused enough. I've een too many girls and women killed and too many that nearly died in child birth.

What? Where do you come from?

Under the circumstances it was far from the right conditions to raise a child or their lives.

You have no right

¿to live?

to tell others they cannot seek a legal abortion.

Ah - so you think I have no right to say what I think - but I guess you think the same time you have the right to say what you think. Hmm - this remembers me to Erdogan now. I guess soon everyone in Turkey will have the right to say, what Erdogan thinks what's right and wrong and economically good for his own clan.

If it is against your principles, don't get one. Others have the right to decide what is best for their life.

children
Neglect 62.8%

What do you call "neglect" in context with children? Neglect is a problem in context of very old people.

Physical abuse 16.6%

Includes this corporal punishement of antiquated forms of education theories too - or is this only a result of blind agressions of violent people?

Sexual abuse 9.3%

Very very high. But what's here the context?

Emotional/psychological abuse 7.1%

What means this?

517 babies were dumped

Dumped ... "weggeworfen", "Im Stich gelassen" ... hmm ... there could perhaps be a deeper psychiatric background behind this behavior ...

287 of those were found dead
million are waiting for home

Lots of Germans like to adopt babies but our state allows them not to do so. Perhaps we can help. Or what about if we would call this children "refugees" and bring them to Germany? Last year we had more than a million refugees from the arabian world. This year not many Arabs seem to come.

How is it right to put children in put in such situation? What of all the children having children. Girls not ready to be a parent?

No one is ready to be parents.

Not you place to judge or criticize

Abortion is legal

... and legal is good as long as it is your legal - otherwise bad.

 

[BreezeWood]

We must not take the law into our own hands, but there needs to be a law against late term abortions, most abortions are done before 12 weeks. The only time one is justified to kill another is in self defense, that also goes for cops.

I guess I understand what and how you think. But the problem is abortion. Abortion is every year more than a civil war. If every year someone in the world would kill a million US-Americans then "you" (= the USA) would nuke down the half planet.

there is a difference zaang between dogma ... and the reality of Garden Earth.

Christianity and Medicine - Bad News About Christianity

It was God who caused illness. He was responsible for cures just as he was responsible for death. Even church law mentioned, in passing, that diseases were attributable to God ...

abortion is not the problem it is only one component to solutions encompassing centuries of development that continues as an ongoing development where in the end choice will be entirely substituted for involuntary servitude for the woman as it is for the male, as simple as that - it is you and blind dogmatistism who are opposed to a woman deciding for herself to have or not have an offspring - that is the problem.

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[aris2chat]

But in the moment it looks like as if it is really in the way that to kill abortion executioners is a moral right in the quality of extended self defense. So someone, who is doing so, is not really a murderer.

I said in the same text very clear that I don't think to kill someone will solve the problem abortion.

zaa: that I don't think to kill someone will solve the problem abortion.


the problem is not abortion that is being solved and has immeasurable other components employed for the same outcome including the last line of defense, something as simple as simply not having sex has the same result as administering an abortion.

are you as willing to murder an abstentionist for the same reason or is physical intimidation what you reserve for pregnant women only ?

I disagree I have confused your answers ... Bully.

.

I guess I understand what and how you think. But the problem is abortion. Abortion is every year more than a civil war. If every year someone in the world would kill a million US-Americans then "you" (= the USA) would nuke down the half planet.

Why is a german so concerned with the laws in the US?

I'm not concerned about any laws. We need justice - but we should not need laws, even if this laws would be indeed a mirror of the real justice. But sometimes laws have less than nothing to do with justice. You are for example able to defend your rights. An aborted baby is not able to defend the right not to be aborted. Instead of such a baby I try to defend their rights.

The law in the US says

¿"Whatever the USA is doing is good - whatever anyone else is doing is bad, except it is good for the USA"?

abortion is a private matter and up to the woman.

So the USA denies the human rights. The human right to live is not a private matter.

We also sell pills over the counter at any pharmacy which can be taken up to 70 days.

Pills? - I guess you mean pills which cause an abort up to the 70th day of gestation. I heard such pills have very heavy collateral effects. By the way - Here is a picture of a human being in the 10th week (=70 days):

Where I grew up, I would teach women what herbs and food to take. It was a matter in most cases of saving their lives. They had been abused enough. I've een too many girls and women killed and too many that nearly died in child birth.

What? Where do you come from?

Under the circumstances it was far from the right conditions to raise a child or their lives.

You have no right

¿to live?

to tell others they cannot seek a legal abortion.

Ah - so you think I have no right to say what I think - but I guess you think the same time you have the right to say what you think. Hmm - this remembers me to Erdogan now. I guess soon everyone in Turkey will have the right to say, what Erdogan thinks what's right and wrong and economically good for his own clan.

If it is against your principles, don't get one. Others have the right to decide what is best for their life.

children
Neglect 62.8%

What do you call "neglect" in context with children? Neglect is a problem in context of very old people.

Physical abuse 16.6%

Includes this corporal punishement of antiquated forms of education theories too - or is this only a result of blind agressions of violent people?

Sexual abuse 9.3%

Very very high. But what's here the context?

Emotional/psychological abuse 7.1%

What means this?

517 babies were dumped

Dumped ... "weggeworfen", "Im Stich gelassen" ... hmm ... there could perhaps be a deeper psychiatric background behind this behavior ...

287 of those were found dead
million are waiting for home

Lots of Germans like to adopt babies but our state allows them not to do so. Perhaps we can help. Or what about if we would call this children "refugees" and bring them to Germany? Last year we had more than a million refugees from the arabian world. This year not many Arabs seem to come.

How is it right to put children in put in such situation? What of all the children having children. Girls not ready to be a parent?

No one is ready to be parents.

Not you place to judge or criticize

Abortion is legal

... and legal is good as long as it is your legal - otherwise bad.

Abortion is not an just law, it is a right of freedom of choice, freedom of the woman to control her own body, freedom to determine her life, a right to not be a slave to others.

 

[Chuz Life]

But in the moment it looks like as if it is really in the way that to kill abortion executioners is a moral right in the quality of extended self defense. So someone, who is doing so, is not really a murderer.

I said in the same text very clear that I don't think to kill someone will solve the problem abortion.

zaa: that I don't think to kill someone will solve the problem abortion.


the problem is not abortion that is being solved and has immeasurable other components employed for the same outcome including the last line of defense, something as simple as simply not having sex has the same result as administering an abortion.

are you as willing to murder an abstentionist for the same reason or is physical intimidation what you reserve for pregnant women only ?

I disagree I have confused your answers ... Bully.

.

I guess I understand what and how you think. But the problem is abortion. Abortion is every year more than a civil war. If every year someone in the world would kill a million US-Americans then "you" (= the USA) would nuke down the half planet.

Why is a german so concerned with the laws in the US?

I'm not concerned about any laws. We need justice - but we should not need laws, even if this laws would be indeed a mirror of the real justice. But sometimes laws have less than nothing to do with justice. You are for example able to defend your rights. An aborted baby is not able to defend the right not to be aborted. Instead of such a baby I try to defend their rights.

The law in the US says

¿"Whatever the USA is doing is good - whatever anyone else is doing is bad, except it is good for the USA"?

abortion is a private matter and up to the woman.

So the USA denies the human rights. The human right to live is not a private matter.

We also sell pills over the counter at any pharmacy which can be taken up to 70 days.

Pills? - I guess you mean pills which cause an abort up to the 70th day of gestation. I heard such pills have very heavy collateral effects. By the way - Here is a picture of a human being in the 10th week (=70 days):

Where I grew up, I would teach women what herbs and food to take. It was a matter in most cases of saving their lives. They had been abused enough. I've een too many girls and women killed and too many that nearly died in child birth.

What? Where do you come from?

Under the circumstances it was far from the right conditions to raise a child or their lives.

You have no right

¿to live?

to tell others they cannot seek a legal abortion.

Ah - so you think I have no right to say what I think - but I guess you think the same time you have the right to say what you think. Hmm - this remembers me to Erdogan now. I guess soon everyone in Turkey will have the right to say, what Erdogan thinks what's right and wrong and economically good for his own clan.

If it is against your principles, don't get one. Others have the right to decide what is best for their life.

children
Neglect 62.8%

What do you call "neglect" in context with children? Neglect is a problem in context of very old people.

Physical abuse 16.6%

Includes this corporal punishement of antiquated forms of education theories too - or is this only a result of blind agressions of violent people?

Sexual abuse 9.3%

Very very high. But what's here the context?

Emotional/psychological abuse 7.1%

What means this?

517 babies were dumped

Dumped ... "weggeworfen", "Im Stich gelassen" ... hmm ... there could perhaps be a deeper psychiatric background behind this behavior ...

287 of those were found dead
million are waiting for home

Lots of Germans like to adopt babies but our state allows them not to do so. Perhaps we can help. Or what about if we would call this children "refugees" and bring them to Germany? Last year we had more than a million refugees from the arabian world. This year not many Arabs seem to come.

How is it right to put children in put in such situation? What of all the children having children. Girls not ready to be a parent?

No one is ready to be parents.

Not you place to judge or criticize

Abortion is legal

... and legal is good as long as it is your legal - otherwise bad.

Abortion is not an just law, it is a right of freedom of choice, freedom of the woman to control her own body, freedom to determine her life, a right to not be a slave to others.

No one has the right to violate the rights of another person. If a child in the womb is a person (and they are) then they are automatically entitled to the EQUAL protections of our laws.

The Supreme Court has already said as much as that when they were deciding Roe and the attorneys for the proabortion side AGREED with it.

 

[aris2chat]

zaa: that I don't think to kill someone will solve the problem abortion.


the problem is not abortion that is being solved and has immeasurable other components employed for the same outcome including the last line of defense, something as simple as simply not having sex has the same result as administering an abortion.

are you as willing to murder an abstentionist for the same reason or is physical intimidation what you reserve for pregnant women only ?

I disagree I have confused your answers ... Bully.

.

I guess I understand what and how you think. But the problem is abortion. Abortion is every year more than a civil war. If every year someone in the world would kill a million US-Americans then "you" (= the USA) would nuke down the half planet.

Why is a german so concerned with the laws in the US?

I'm not concerned about any laws. We need justice - but we should not need laws, even if this laws would be indeed a mirror of the real justice. But sometimes laws have less than nothing to do with justice. You are for example able to defend your rights. An aborted baby is not able to defend the right not to be aborted. Instead of such a baby I try to defend their rights.

The law in the US says

¿"Whatever the USA is doing is good - whatever anyone else is doing is bad, except it is good for the USA"?

abortion is a private matter and up to the woman.

So the USA denies the human rights. The human right to live is not a private matter.

We also sell pills over the counter at any pharmacy which can be taken up to 70 days.

Pills? - I guess you mean pills which cause an abort up to the 70th day of gestation. I heard such pills have very heavy collateral effects. By the way - Here is a picture of a human being in the 10th week (=70 days):

Where I grew up, I would teach women what herbs and food to take. It was a matter in most cases of saving their lives. They had been abused enough. I've een too many girls and women killed and too many that nearly died in child birth.

What? Where do you come from?

Under the circumstances it was far from the right conditions to raise a child or their lives.

You have no right

¿to live?

to tell others they cannot seek a legal abortion.

Ah - so you think I have no right to say what I think - but I guess you think the same time you have the right to say what you think. Hmm - this remembers me to Erdogan now. I guess soon everyone in Turkey will have the right to say, what Erdogan thinks what's right and wrong and economically good for his own clan.

If it is against your principles, don't get one. Others have the right to decide what is best for their life.

children
Neglect 62.8%

What do you call "neglect" in context with children? Neglect is a problem in context of very old people.

Physical abuse 16.6%

Includes this corporal punishement of antiquated forms of education theories too - or is this only a result of blind agressions of violent people?

Sexual abuse 9.3%

Very very high. But what's here the context?

Emotional/psychological abuse 7.1%

What means this?

517 babies were dumped

Dumped ... "weggeworfen", "Im Stich gelassen" ... hmm ... there could perhaps be a deeper psychiatric background behind this behavior ...

287 of those were found dead
million are waiting for home

Lots of Germans like to adopt babies but our state allows them not to do so. Perhaps we can help. Or what about if we would call this children "refugees" and bring them to Germany? Last year we had more than a million refugees from the arabian world. This year not many Arabs seem to come.

How is it right to put children in put in such situation? What of all the children having children. Girls not ready to be a parent?

No one is ready to be parents.

Not you place to judge or criticize

Abortion is legal

... and legal is good as long as it is your legal - otherwise bad.

Abortion is not an just law, it is a right of freedom of choice, freedom of the woman to control her own body, freedom to determine her life, a right to not be a slave to others.

No one has the right to violate the rights of another person. If a child in the womb is a person (and they are) then they are automatically entitled to the EQUAL protections of our laws.

The Supreme Court has already said as much as that when they were deciding Roe and the attorneys for the proabortion side AGREED with it.

A fetus till the last trimester has not rights, they are not living breathing recognized people. By the third trimester there is a chance for them outside the womb. Till then a fetus is not formed or developed enough.

Abortion is a privacy issue and you or anyone else has not right to the medical records or to interfere with the treatment of the woman. Till the birth, she is the patient, not the fetus. Her life is her own and if she does not want to share her body for nine months to a fetus, that is her freedom to decide. She is not a slave and you are not her master. You have no right to even know what she decides let alone dictate or interfere.

If you don't believe in abortion, that is fine for your life, but not if you take action in the choices of others.

 

[Faun]

zaa: that I don't think to kill someone will solve the problem abortion.


the problem is not abortion that is being solved and has immeasurable other components employed for the same outcome including the last line of defense, something as simple as simply not having sex has the same result as administering an abortion.

are you as willing to murder an abstentionist for the same reason or is physical intimidation what you reserve for pregnant women only ?

I disagree I have confused your answers ... Bully.

.

I guess I understand what and how you think. But the problem is abortion. Abortion is every year more than a civil war. If every year someone in the world would kill a million US-Americans then "you" (= the USA) would nuke down the half planet.

Why is a german so concerned with the laws in the US?

I'm not concerned about any laws. We need justice - but we should not need laws, even if this laws would be indeed a mirror of the real justice. But sometimes laws have less than nothing to do with justice. You are for example able to defend your rights. An aborted baby is not able to defend the right not to be aborted. Instead of such a baby I try to defend their rights.

The law in the US says

¿"Whatever the USA is doing is good - whatever anyone else is doing is bad, except it is good for the USA"?

abortion is a private matter and up to the woman.

So the USA denies the human rights. The human right to live is not a private matter.

We also sell pills over the counter at any pharmacy which can be taken up to 70 days.

Pills? - I guess you mean pills which cause an abort up to the 70th day of gestation. I heard such pills have very heavy collateral effects. By the way - Here is a picture of a human being in the 10th week (=70 days):

Where I grew up, I would teach women what herbs and food to take. It was a matter in most cases of saving their lives. They had been abused enough. I've een too many girls and women killed and too many that nearly died in child birth.

What? Where do you come from?

Under the circumstances it was far from the right conditions to raise a child or their lives.

You have no right

¿to live?

to tell others they cannot seek a legal abortion.

Ah - so you think I have no right to say what I think - but I guess you think the same time you have the right to say what you think. Hmm - this remembers me to Erdogan now. I guess soon everyone in Turkey will have the right to say, what Erdogan thinks what's right and wrong and economically good for his own clan.

If it is against your principles, don't get one. Others have the right to decide what is best for their life.

children
Neglect 62.8%

What do you call "neglect" in context with children? Neglect is a problem in context of very old people.

Physical abuse 16.6%

Includes this corporal punishement of antiquated forms of education theories too - or is this only a result of blind agressions of violent people?

Sexual abuse 9.3%

Very very high. But what's here the context?

Emotional/psychological abuse 7.1%

What means this?

517 babies were dumped

Dumped ... "weggeworfen", "Im Stich gelassen" ... hmm ... there could perhaps be a deeper psychiatric background behind this behavior ...

287 of those were found dead
million are waiting for home

Lots of Germans like to adopt babies but our state allows them not to do so. Perhaps we can help. Or what about if we would call this children "refugees" and bring them to Germany? Last year we had more than a million refugees from the arabian world. This year not many Arabs seem to come.

How is it right to put children in put in such situation? What of all the children having children. Girls not ready to be a parent?

No one is ready to be parents.

Not you place to judge or criticize

Abortion is legal

... and legal is good as long as it is your legal - otherwise bad.

Abortion is not an just law, it is a right of freedom of choice, freedom of the woman to control her own body, freedom to determine her life, a right to not be a slave to others.

No one has the right to violate the rights of another person. If a child in the womb is a person (and they are) then they are automatically entitled to the EQUAL protections of our laws.

None of which has anything to do with abortion.

 

[zaangalewa]

We must not take the law into our own hands, but there needs to be a law against late term abortions, most abortions are done before 12 weeks. The only time one is justified to kill another is in self defense, that also goes for cops.

I guess I understand what and how you think. But the problem is abortion. Abortion is every year more than a civil war. If every year someone in the world would kill a million US-Americans then "you" (= the USA) would nuke down the half planet.

there is a difference zaang between dogma ... and the reality of Garden Earth.

No idea what you like to say with this words.

Christianity and Medicine - Bad News About Christianity

It was God who caused illness. He was responsible for cures just as he was responsible for death. Even church law mentioned, in passing, that diseases were attributable to God ...

Strange.

abortion is not the problem it is only one component to solutions encompassing centuries of development that continues as an ongoing development where in the end choice will be entirely substituted for involuntary servitude for the woman as it is for the male, as simple as that - it is you and blind dogmatistism who are opposed to a woman deciding for herself to have or not have an offspring - that is the problem.

What you call "developement" could call the intergalactical communitiy of intelligent species: "The monsters of the third planet solar system who kill their own breed".

 

[Chuz Life]

A fetus till the last trimester has not rights they are not living breathing recognized people.

Our State and Federal Fetal Homicide say you are wrong about that.

By the third trimester there is a chance for them outside the womb. Till then a fetus is not formed or developed enough.

Yeah. Our fetal homicide laws don't care about that.

Abortion is a privacy issue and you or anyone else has not right to the medical records or to interfere with the treatment of the woman.

No one has the right to violate the rights of a child and then to shield or to hide that violation behind a so called "right to privacy (sic)"

Till the birth, she is the patient, not the fetus.

Let's talk about "birth."

Does "birth" include surgical deliveries like a Cesarean Section? If it does, then what is the difference between the surgical removal of a child by "C-section" and the surgical removal of (figuratively) that same child in an abortion procedure?

In either case, the mother, the child and the doctor could all be the same. The surgical procedure is essentially the same too.

So, what then is the difference between the surgical delivery of a child in a "C section" and one surgically delivered in an abortion?

An aborted child is just as "born" as is any other child that is forcibly removed from the womb. The only difference is that the aborted child is "born" into the hand of those who wanted it dead.

Her life is her own and if she does not want to share her body for nine months to a fetus, that is her freedom to decide.

Unless the woman was raped, the child was put into that situation by the woman (with help from her partner) herself. So, the claim that the child is invading HER space is ludicrous and easily dismissed.

She is not a slave and you are not her master. You have no right to even know what she decides let alone dictate or interfere.

That's fine. I am fairly certain that the laws which will be written to protect children from abortions will not be named after me or managed by me personally anyway.

If you don't believe in abortion, that is fine for your life, but not if you take action in the choices of others.

The first amendment says:

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Got a problem with any of that?

 

[zaangalewa]

But in the moment it looks like as if it is really in the way that to kill abortion executioners is a moral right in the quality of extended self defense. So someone, who is doing so, is not really a murderer.

I said in the same text very clear that I don't think to kill someone will solve the problem abortion.

zaa: that I don't think to kill someone will solve the problem abortion.


the problem is not abortion that is being solved and has immeasurable other components employed for the same outcome including the last line of defense, something as simple as simply not having sex has the same result as administering an abortion.

are you as willing to murder an abstentionist for the same reason or is physical intimidation what you reserve for pregnant women only ?

I disagree I have confused your answers ... Bully.

.

I guess I understand what and how you think. But the problem is abortion. Abortion is every year more than a civil war. If every year someone in the world would kill a million US-Americans then "you" (= the USA) would nuke down the half planet.

Why is a german so concerned with the laws in the US?

I'm not concerned about any laws. We need justice - but we should not need laws, even if this laws would be indeed a mirror of the real justice. But sometimes laws have less than nothing to do with justice. You are for example able to defend your rights. An aborted baby is not able to defend the right not to be aborted. Instead of such a baby I try to defend their rights.

The law in the US says

¿"Whatever the USA is doing is good - whatever anyone else is doing is bad, except it is good for the USA"?

abortion is a private matter and up to the woman.

So the USA denies the human rights. The human right to live is not a private matter.

We also sell pills over the counter at any pharmacy which can be taken up to 70 days.

Pills? - I guess you mean pills which cause an abort up to the 70th day of gestation. I heard such pills have very heavy collateral effects. By the way - Here is a picture of a human being in the 10th week (=70 days):

Where I grew up, I would teach women what herbs and food to take. It was a matter in most cases of saving their lives. They had been abused enough. I've een too many girls and women killed and too many that nearly died in child birth.

What? Where do you come from?

Under the circumstances it was far from the right conditions to raise a child or their lives.

You have no right

¿to live?

to tell others they cannot seek a legal abortion.

Ah - so you think I have no right to say what I think - but I guess you think the same time you have the right to say what you think. Hmm - this remembers me to Erdogan now. I guess soon everyone in Turkey will have the right to say, what Erdogan thinks what's right and wrong and economically good for his own clan.

If it is against your principles, don't get one. Others have the right to decide what is best for their life.

children
Neglect 62.8%

What do you call "neglect" in context with children? Neglect is a problem in context of very old people.

Physical abuse 16.6%

Includes this corporal punishement of antiquated forms of education theories too - or is this only a result of blind agressions of violent people?

Sexual abuse 9.3%

Very very high. But what's here the context?

Emotional/psychological abuse 7.1%

What means this?

517 babies were dumped

Dumped ... "weggeworfen", "Im Stich gelassen" ... hmm ... there could perhaps be a deeper psychiatric background behind this behavior ...

287 of those were found dead
million are waiting for home

Lots of Germans like to adopt babies but our state allows them not to do so. Perhaps we can help. Or what about if we would call this children "refugees" and bring them to Germany? Last year we had more than a million refugees from the arabian world. This year not many Arabs seem to come.

How is it right to put children in put in such situation? What of all the children having children. Girls not ready to be a parent?

No one is ready to be parents.

Not you place to judge or criticize

Abortion is legal

... and legal is good as long as it is your legal - otherwise bad.

Abortion is not an just law, it is a right of freedom of choice, freedom of the woman to control her own body, freedom to determine her life, a right to not be a slave to others.

What you say is absurde. Even if every human being would think so, it would not change anything in the fact that a human being has to die in case of abortion. Normally a man and a woman are not forced to do sex with each other and to abort afterwards their common child. It's no ones right to kill a human being on absurde reasons. To live in fear of the own unborn babies and to kill them is nothing else than only ... absurde ... I don't know whatelse to say. And not to care about human life - specially not the life of the own children - is more than only absurde. "Devilish" could perhaps be a good description. Abortion is an expression of the insanity of complete human societies.

 

[Mudda]

zaa: that I don't think to kill someone will solve the problem abortion.


the problem is not abortion that is being solved and has immeasurable other components employed for the same outcome including the last line of defense, something as simple as simply not having sex has the same result as administering an abortion.

are you as willing to murder an abstentionist for the same reason or is physical intimidation what you reserve for pregnant women only ?

I disagree I have confused your answers ... Bully.

.

I guess I understand what and how you think. But the problem is abortion. Abortion is every year more than a civil war. If every year someone in the world would kill a million US-Americans then "you" (= the USA) would nuke down the half planet.

Why is a german so concerned with the laws in the US?

I'm not concerned about any laws. We need justice - but we should not need laws, even if this laws would be indeed a mirror of the real justice. But sometimes laws have less than nothing to do with justice. You are for example able to defend your rights. An aborted baby is not able to defend the right not to be aborted. Instead of such a baby I try to defend their rights.

The law in the US says

¿"Whatever the USA is doing is good - whatever anyone else is doing is bad, except it is good for the USA"?

abortion is a private matter and up to the woman.

So the USA denies the human rights. The human right to live is not a private matter.

We also sell pills over the counter at any pharmacy which can be taken up to 70 days.

Pills? - I guess you mean pills which cause an abort up to the 70th day of gestation. I heard such pills have very heavy collateral effects. By the way - Here is a picture of a human being in the 10th week (=70 days):

Where I grew up, I would teach women what herbs and food to take. It was a matter in most cases of saving their lives. They had been abused enough. I've een too many girls and women killed and too many that nearly died in child birth.

What? Where do you come from?

Under the circumstances it was far from the right conditions to raise a child or their lives.

You have no right

¿to live?

to tell others they cannot seek a legal abortion.

Ah - so you think I have no right to say what I think - but I guess you think the same time you have the right to say what you think. Hmm - this remembers me to Erdogan now. I guess soon everyone in Turkey will have the right to say, what Erdogan thinks what's right and wrong and economically good for his own clan.

If it is against your principles, don't get one. Others have the right to decide what is best for their life.

children
Neglect 62.8%

What do you call "neglect" in context with children? Neglect is a problem in context of very old people.

Physical abuse 16.6%

Includes this corporal punishement of antiquated forms of education theories too - or is this only a result of blind agressions of violent people?

Sexual abuse 9.3%

Very very high. But what's here the context?

Emotional/psychological abuse 7.1%

What means this?

517 babies were dumped

Dumped ... "weggeworfen", "Im Stich gelassen" ... hmm ... there could perhaps be a deeper psychiatric background behind this behavior ...

287 of those were found dead
million are waiting for home

Lots of Germans like to adopt babies but our state allows them not to do so. Perhaps we can help. Or what about if we would call this children "refugees" and bring them to Germany? Last year we had more than a million refugees from the arabian world. This year not many Arabs seem to come.

How is it right to put children in put in such situation? What of all the children having children. Girls not ready to be a parent?

No one is ready to be parents.

Not you place to judge or criticize

Abortion is legal

... and legal is good as long as it is your legal - otherwise bad.

Abortion is not an just law, it is a right of freedom of choice, freedom of the woman to control her own body, freedom to determine her life, a right to not be a slave to others.

What you say is absurde. Even if every human being would think so, it would not change anything in the fact that a human being has to die in case of abortion. Normally a man and a woman are not forced to do sex with each other and to abort afterwards their common child. It's no ones right to kill a human being on absurde reasons. To live in fear of the own unborn babies and to kill them is nothing else than only ... absurde ... I don't know whatelse to say. And not to care about human life - specially not the life of the own children - is more than only absurde. "Devilish" could perhaps be a good description. Abortion is an expression of the insanity of complete human societies.

A fetus isn't a human being. Shit man, YOU'RE barely a human being. Now please shut the fuck up.

 

[zaangalewa]

I guess I understand what and how you think. But the problem is abortion. Abortion is every year more than a civil war. If every year someone in the world would kill a million US-Americans then "you" (= the USA) would nuke down the half planet.

Why is a german so concerned with the laws in the US?

I'm not concerned about any laws. We need justice - but we should not need laws, even if this laws would be indeed a mirror of the real justice. But sometimes laws have less than nothing to do with justice. You are for example able to defend your rights. An aborted baby is not able to defend the right not to be aborted. Instead of such a baby I try to defend their rights.

The law in the US says

¿"Whatever the USA is doing is good - whatever anyone else is doing is bad, except it is good for the USA"?

abortion is a private matter and up to the woman.

So the USA denies the human rights. The human right to live is not a private matter.

We also sell pills over the counter at any pharmacy which can be taken up to 70 days.

Pills? - I guess you mean pills which cause an abort up to the 70th day of gestation. I heard such pills have very heavy collateral effects. By the way - Here is a picture of a human being in the 10th week (=70 days):

Where I grew up, I would teach women what herbs and food to take. It was a matter in most cases of saving their lives. They had been abused enough. I've een too many girls and women killed and too many that nearly died in child birth.

What? Where do you come from?

Under the circumstances it was far from the right conditions to raise a child or their lives.

You have no right

¿to live?

to tell others they cannot seek a legal abortion.

Ah - so you think I have no right to say what I think - but I guess you think the same time you have the right to say what you think. Hmm - this remembers me to Erdogan now. I guess soon everyone in Turkey will have the right to say, what Erdogan thinks what's right and wrong and economically good for his own clan.

If it is against your principles, don't get one. Others have the right to decide what is best for their life.

children
Neglect 62.8%

What do you call "neglect" in context with children? Neglect is a problem in context of very old people.

Physical abuse 16.6%

Includes this corporal punishement of antiquated forms of education theories too - or is this only a result of blind agressions of violent people?

Sexual abuse 9.3%

Very very high. But what's here the context?

Emotional/psychological abuse 7.1%

What means this?

517 babies were dumped

Dumped ... "weggeworfen", "Im Stich gelassen" ... hmm ... there could perhaps be a deeper psychiatric background behind this behavior ...

287 of those were found dead
million are waiting for home

Lots of Germans like to adopt babies but our state allows them not to do so. Perhaps we can help. Or what about if we would call this children "refugees" and bring them to Germany? Last year we had more than a million refugees from the arabian world. This year not many Arabs seem to come.

How is it right to put children in put in such situation? What of all the children having children. Girls not ready to be a parent?

No one is ready to be parents.

Not you place to judge or criticize

Abortion is legal

... and legal is good as long as it is your legal - otherwise bad.

Abortion is not an just law, it is a right of freedom of choice, freedom of the woman to control her own body, freedom to determine her life, a right to not be a slave to others.

What you say is absurde. Even if every human being would think so, it would not change anything in the fact that a human being has to die in case of abortion. Normally a man and a woman are not forced to do sex with each other and to abort afterwards their common child. It's no ones right to kill a human being on absurde reasons. To live in fear of the own unborn babies and to kill them is nothing else than only ... absurde ... I don't know whatelse to say. And not to care about human life - specially not the life of the own children - is more than only absurde. "Devilish" could perhaps be a good description. Abortion is an expression of the insanity of complete human societies.

A fetus isn't a human being. Shit man, YOU'RE barely a human being. Now please shut the fuck up.

No comment, Nazi.

 

[Mudda]

Why is a german so concerned with the laws in the US?

I'm not concerned about any laws. We need justice - but we should not need laws, even if this laws would be indeed a mirror of the real justice. But sometimes laws have less than nothing to do with justice. You are for example able to defend your rights. An aborted baby is not able to defend the right not to be aborted. Instead of such a baby I try to defend their rights.

The law in the US says

¿"Whatever the USA is doing is good - whatever anyone else is doing is bad, except it is good for the USA"?

abortion is a private matter and up to the woman.

So the USA denies the human rights. The human right to live is not a private matter.

We also sell pills over the counter at any pharmacy which can be taken up to 70 days.

Pills? - I guess you mean pills which cause an abort up to the 70th day of gestation. I heard such pills have very heavy collateral effects. By the way - Here is a picture of a human being in the 10th week (=70 days):

Where I grew up, I would teach women what herbs and food to take. It was a matter in most cases of saving their lives. They had been abused enough. I've een too many girls and women killed and too many that nearly died in child birth.

What? Where do you come from?

Under the circumstances it was far from the right conditions to raise a child or their lives.

You have no right

¿to live?

to tell others they cannot seek a legal abortion.

Ah - so you think I have no right to say what I think - but I guess you think the same time you have the right to say what you think. Hmm - this remembers me to Erdogan now. I guess soon everyone in Turkey will have the right to say, what Erdogan thinks what's right and wrong and economically good for his own clan.

If it is against your principles, don't get one. Others have the right to decide what is best for their life.

children
Neglect 62.8%

What do you call "neglect" in context with children? Neglect is a problem in context of very old people.

Physical abuse 16.6%

Includes this corporal punishement of antiquated forms of education theories too - or is this only a result of blind agressions of violent people?

Sexual abuse 9.3%

Very very high. But what's here the context?

Emotional/psychological abuse 7.1%

What means this?

517 babies were dumped

Dumped ... "weggeworfen", "Im Stich gelassen" ... hmm ... there could perhaps be a deeper psychiatric background behind this behavior ...

287 of those were found dead
million are waiting for home

Lots of Germans like to adopt babies but our state allows them not to do so. Perhaps we can help. Or what about if we would call this children "refugees" and bring them to Germany? Last year we had more than a million refugees from the arabian world. This year not many Arabs seem to come.

How is it right to put children in put in such situation? What of all the children having children. Girls not ready to be a parent?

No one is ready to be parents.

Not you place to judge or criticize

Abortion is legal

... and legal is good as long as it is your legal - otherwise bad.

Abortion is not an just law, it is a right of freedom of choice, freedom of the woman to control her own body, freedom to determine her life, a right to not be a slave to others.

What you say is absurde. Even if every human being would think so, it would not change anything in the fact that a human being has to die in case of abortion. Normally a man and a woman are not forced to do sex with each other and to abort afterwards their common child. It's no ones right to kill a human being on absurde reasons. To live in fear of the own unborn babies and to kill them is nothing else than only ... absurde ... I don't know whatelse to say. And not to care about human life - specially not the life of the own children - is more than only absurde. "Devilish" could perhaps be a good description. Abortion is an expression of the insanity of complete human societies.

A fetus isn't a human being. Shit man, YOU'RE barely a human being. Now please shut the fuck up.

No comment, Nazi.

That's it, shut up.

 

[zaangalewa]

I'm not concerned about any laws. We need justice - but we should not need laws, even if this laws would be indeed a mirror of the real justice. But sometimes laws have less than nothing to do with justice. You are for example able to defend your rights. An aborted baby is not able to defend the right not to be aborted. Instead of such a baby I try to defend their rights.

¿"Whatever the USA is doing is good - whatever anyone else is doing is bad, except it is good for the USA"?

So the USA denies the human rights. The human right to live is not a private matter.

Pills? - I guess you mean pills which cause an abort up to the 70th day of gestation. I heard such pills have very heavy collateral effects. By the way - Here is a picture of a human being in the 10th week (=70 days):

What? Where do you come from?

¿to live?

Ah - so you think I have no right to say what I think - but I guess you think the same time you have the right to say what you think. Hmm - this remembers me to Erdogan now. I guess soon everyone in Turkey will have the right to say, what Erdogan thinks what's right and wrong and economically good for his own clan.

What do you call "neglect" in context with children? Neglect is a problem in context of very old people.

Includes this corporal punishement of antiquated forms of education theories too - or is this only a result of blind agressions of violent people?

Very very high. But what's here the context?

What means this?

Dumped ... "weggeworfen", "Im Stich gelassen" ... hmm ... there could perhaps be a deeper psychiatric background behind this behavior ...

Lots of Germans like to adopt babies but our state allows them not to do so. Perhaps we can help. Or what about if we would call this children "refugees" and bring them to Germany? Last year we had more than a million refugees from the arabian world. This year not many Arabs seem to come.

No one is ready to be parents.

... and legal is good as long as it is your legal - otherwise bad.

Abortion is not an just law, it is a right of freedom of choice, freedom of the woman to control her own body, freedom to determine her life, a right to not be a slave to others.

What you say is absurde. Even if every human being would think so, it would not change anything in the fact that a human being has to die in case of abortion. Normally a man and a woman are not forced to do sex with each other and to abort afterwards their common child. It's no ones right to kill a human being on absurde reasons. To live in fear of the own unborn babies and to kill them is nothing else than only ... absurde ... I don't know whatelse to say. And not to care about human life - specially not the life of the own children - is more than only absurde. "Devilish" could perhaps be a good description. Abortion is an expression of the insanity of complete human societies.

A fetus isn't a human being. Shit man, YOU'RE barely a human being. Now please shut the fuck up.

No comment, Nazi.

That's it, shut up.

No comment, Nazi.

 

[aris2chat]

We must not take the law into our own hands, but there needs to be a law against late term abortions, most abortions are done before 12 weeks. The only time one is justified to kill another is in self defense, that also goes for cops.

I guess I understand what and how you think. But the problem is abortion. Abortion is every year more than a civil war. If every year someone in the world would kill a million US-Americans then "you" (= the USA) would nuke down the half planet.

there is a difference zaang between dogma ... and the reality of Garden Earth.

No idea what you like to say with this words.

Christianity and Medicine - Bad News About Christianity

It was God who caused illness. He was responsible for cures just as he was responsible for death. Even church law mentioned, in passing, that diseases were attributable to God ...

Strange.

abortion is not the problem it is only one component to solutions encompassing centuries of development that continues as an ongoing development where in the end choice will be entirely substituted for involuntary servitude for the woman as it is for the male, as simple as that - it is you and blind dogmatistism who are opposed to a woman deciding for herself to have or not have an offspring - that is the problem.

What you call "developement" could call the intergalactical communitiy of intelligent species: "The monsters of the third planet solar system who kill their own breed".

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The Chronicles and Macbeth[edit]

A generic picture of Lords meeting Ladies used amongst other things for illustrating "Macbeth and Banquo encountering the witches" in the first edition of Holinshed's Chronicles.
Shakespeare used Holinshed's work extensively in Macbeth, but, in modified form. An instance is the Three Witches, whom Holinshed describes as "creatures of the elderwood ... nymphs or fairies". Nymphs and fairies are generally viewed as beautiful and youthful, but Shakespeare's three witches in Macbeth are ugly, dark, and bizarre. It is believed that he made the change to heighten the suspense and darkness of the play.[2] However, the Chronicles were lacking any description of Macbeth's character, so Shakespeare improvised on several points.[3] The characters Banquo and Fleance were also taken from Holinshed’s works, but they are now considered by many historians to be mythical, created by the rulers of Scotland at the time of the publication of the Chronicles.[4]

References[edit]

1. Jump up ^ (King's College London) Holinshed's Chronicles February 2005. Accessed 1 June 2008. Archived July 6, 2009, at the Wayback Machine.
2. Jump up ^ Shakespeare's Sources for Macbeth: Holinshed and Witches
3. Jump up ^ Shakespeare's Sources for Macbeth: Holinshed and Witches
4. Jump up ^ shakespeare.com FAQ

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