IRS Idiots called my bicycle a possible bomb......

[ABikerSailor]

Besides........there is NO FUCKING WAY that you could pack enough explosive in or on that bike without it being rather obvious. Why? My bike only weighs 18 lbs.

VC used to pack bicycle frames with explosives and detonate then on crowed streets in Saigon.

Hey stupid....what part of there is nothing on my bicycle other than a frame pump and a small tool kit did you miss?

And..........even if I could put a bomb on it, it would be way too easy to notice.

Shit.......next time I think I'm gonna take my messenger bag with me and see if I've got to put that outside as well.

Like I said.......it's shocking that people could actually be that stupid.

 

[Sunni Man]

Listen closely numb nuts; the VC would pack the "inside" of the frame with explosives.

Even your super special, I gotta brag-about-it frame, is made of hollow tubing. (much like your head)

 

[MikeK]

I know nothing about bikes but yours seems exceptional and it certainly would be foolish of you to leave it unattended in the lobby. I do empathize with your frustration because I would be pissed off, too, in the same situation. And you are quite right about the increasing level of paranoia, which happens to facilitate the war mongers' agenda as well as heighten public caution. ("Be Afraid!")

But you said your bike is made with 1-1/8" steel tubing. Unfortunately a couple of feet of steel tubing packed with PETN could probably wipe out that entire IRS office. 100 grams of that stuff could just about vaporize the average automobile. So my guess is that security guard probably got a bulletin from Homeland Security that specifies bicycles as being a potential hazard.

Anyway, you got a good workout from that ride.

 

[ABikerSailor]

I know nothing about bikes but yours seems exceptional and it certainly would be foolish of you to leave it unattended in the lobby. I do empathize with your frustration because I would be pissed off, too, in the same situation. And you are quite right about the increasing level of paranoia, which happens to facilitate the war mongers' agenda as well as heighten public caution. ("Be Afraid!")

But you said your bike is made with 1-1/8" steel tubing. Unfortunately a couple of feet of steel tubing packed with PETN could probably wipe out that entire IRS office. 100 grams of that stuff could just about vaporize the average automobile. So my guess is that security guard probably got a bulletin from Homeland Security that specifies bicycles as being a potential hazard.

Anyway, you got a good workout from that ride.

Only problem is......stuff like that is WAAAYYYY hard to get (retired Navy).

The thing that pisses me off the most, is that when someone walks in (yeah, they know I'm retired military, I've been there several times and some of 'em kinda think I'm cool), instead of just saying "yeah, we know you're only gonna be here 2 min", they started to be dicks.

What could have taken only 2 min turned into a 10 min bullshit session. Why? Because I told the little dough boy security guard that he needed to quit being a dick. Incidentally, "dick" is also a term that applies to hard nosed cops, it's from the 20's and 30's.

So what was my reward? I had to put the bike out, and instead of taking my payment right away, they made me wait...........in an office that had NO FUCKING CUSTOMERS!!!!!!

Like I said, this paranoia bullshit is getting kinda way outta hand, and, not only that, the people that THINK they're protecting stuff are actually the ones making it harder for everyone else, and.........if you think about it.......because they follow knee jerk reactions, and have bullshit bulletins that they follow blindly, it makes it easier for the terrorists.

Remember when they banned Bic lighters on airplanes? This is kinda the same fucked up knee jerk reaction.

Good thing I love my country and AIN'T a terrorist, which is why it pisses me off so much when some douchebag places me in the same class. I served in 4 fucking war zones, and have seen friends die.

Pisses me off when they try to say I could be one of the enemy.

 

[Sunni Man]

Pisses me off when they try to say I could be one of the enemy.

Actually, you very well could be.

I mean you are kind of wrapped a little too tight.

Ever heard of Timothy McVeigh??

 

[Blagger]

Sorry, Popeye, but I'm struggling to work-out what you're more angry at. The fact that they stopped you, or because on seeing your Nobel prize winning bicycle, they didn't drop to their knees in paralyzed envy.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Pisses me off when they try to say I could be one of the enemy.

Actually, you very well could be.

I mean you are kind of wrapped a little too tight.

Ever heard of Timothy McVeigh??

Yeah.....I've heard of him, only trouble is, I'm not some whack job fundamentalist Christian with a point to prove.

I'm a peace loving Taoist, which means "scholar warrior".

 

[Blagger]

"Scholar warrior."

Ha ha!

 

[Sunni Man]

"Scholar warrior."

Ha ha!

The guy floated around in a garbage scow boat for 20 years collecting tax payer money and reading Mad Magazine.

And now he has delusions that he is some kind of a comic book action figure named "Scholar Warrior".

 

[Blagger]

Yeah, some "warrior scholar".

Power deRanger, more like.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Yeah......sure........but you may wish to check out the book "Scholar Warrior" by Deng Ming Tao.

But, considering you're a failed Christian who converted to Islam, I'd be really surprised if you could look outside your own narrow understanding Sunnidiot.

But, your narrow mind has been prominently on display here before, and I'm sure your little hatchet mind will make another ground breaking performance again.

BTW Sunnidiot.........go tell a sailor from the USS GEORGE WASHINGTON (CVN-73) (yeah...I'm a plankowner on that boat), as well as someone from the USS DWIGHT D EISENHOWER (CVN-69) that their ship is a garbage scow.

I promise, it'll be fun for someone.........

 

[Madeline]

ABS, there have been several serious attacks on IRS buildings just this year.

Man Angry at IRS Crashes Plane into Office - CBS News

White Powder Found at IRS Facility in Odgen, Utah: Anthrax Attack? - Associated Content - associatedcontent.com

Is the IRS Under Attack? | Wall St. Cheat Sheet

Facilities ? Fedline - The Federal Times Blog - federal news, government operations, agency management, pay & benefits

Dun provoke the guards, ABS. In all likelihood they are federal cops, not rent-a-cops. You need to adjust your reality-viewer; they will not make any exceptions to whatever procedures they have been instructed to follow. All that'll happen is you'll end up annoyed or even being held.

Get a good locking chain for your bike. I'm very sorry this happened to you, but things have changed for federal workers more than they have for the rest of us.

 

[saveliberty]

I had to go to the IRS offices today to pay off some stuff. Since it was a nice day (as well as since I was able to take my bicycle in with me LAST time), I decided to ride out there and back (only about 15 miles round trip).

When I got there, the security guard (who was there last month when I went in to make a payment), told me that I had to put my bicycle out in the lobby (where there was nobody to watch it), as it was a possibility that it could be a bomb.

Now listen.........yeah, there have been suicide bombers using motorcycles, and maybe one of 'em was able to make a SMALL bomb out of a bicycle in Pakistan, but WTF?

My bike is a Lemond Zurich which is made out of chromoly steel tubing (Reynolds 883 to be exact), with deep dish aluminum rims that are only about 22 mm wide, and the main tubes on the frame are only about 1 1/2 inches wide.

Additionally, there is NOTHING that hangs off of my bike other than a very small tool kit and a frame pump.

What the fuck.........have we become such a paranoid nation that a retired Navy veteran such as myself now gets accused of having a possibility of a bomb in a BICYCLE?????

This paranoia that the nation is going through is starting to get out of hand. What do you guys think?

You have a couple of things working against you here:

1. Obama is targeting vets as terrorists.
2. IRS employees don't get out much. I'm surprised they knew it was a bike.
3. Bikes are made from pipes.

I guess my question is, it WILL be a bomb next time right?

 

[Againsheila]

Only in America would we have a situation where the FLOTUS harangues everyone to Move More and someone who rides a bike to deal with a government agency is accused of possibly having a bomb.

Interestingly enough, when I told them that they didn't have a bike rack out in front where I could lock it up, they stated they didn't have to as the IRS isn't a government agency.

Yeah........and the idea about putting it in the lobby was just fucking stupid.

That's what I was thinking, I mean, it's okay to blow up the lobby? WThey?

 

[saveliberty]

I bet if you wrote, "this bike is a bomb" on the bike, they would let you right in.

 

[JBeukema]

Pisses me off when they try to say I could be one of the enemy.

Actually, you very well could be.

I mean you are kind of wrapped a little too tight.

Ever heard of Timothy McVeigh??

Yeah.....I've heard of him, only trouble is, I'm not some whack job fundamentalist Christian with a point to prove.

I'm a peace loving Taoist, which means "scholar warrior".

Let me get this straight:

anti-obama

ex-military

identifies as a 'warrior'

male

white?

known to frequent at least one political message board



I swear I read a profile about you before

 

[saveliberty]

Profiling is racist. Helpful as all get out, but wrong. Course, pretty much everything is racist, so go right ahead. Quick tempered. You forgot quick tempered. Got IRS issues too.

 

[ABikerSailor]

I had to go to the IRS offices today to pay off some stuff. Since it was a nice day (as well as since I was able to take my bicycle in with me LAST time), I decided to ride out there and back (only about 15 miles round trip).

When I got there, the security guard (who was there last month when I went in to make a payment), told me that I had to put my bicycle out in the lobby (where there was nobody to watch it), as it was a possibility that it could be a bomb.

Now listen.........yeah, there have been suicide bombers using motorcycles, and maybe one of 'em was able to make a SMALL bomb out of a bicycle in Pakistan, but WTF?

My bike is a Lemond Zurich which is made out of chromoly steel tubing (Reynolds 883 to be exact), with deep dish aluminum rims that are only about 22 mm wide, and the main tubes on the frame are only about 1 1/2 inches wide.

Additionally, there is NOTHING that hangs off of my bike other than a very small tool kit and a frame pump.

What the fuck.........have we become such a paranoid nation that a retired Navy veteran such as myself now gets accused of having a possibility of a bomb in a BICYCLE?????

This paranoia that the nation is going through is starting to get out of hand. What do you guys think?

You have a couple of things working against you here:

1. Obama is targeting vets as terrorists.
2. IRS employees don't get out much. I'm surprised they knew it was a bike.
3. Bikes are made from pipes.

I guess my question is, it WILL be a bomb next time right?

Obama is targeting vets as terrorists? Got a link for that one?

Yeah.......I was kinda surprised they knew it was a bike as well, because everytime I've been there, the place is way boring and somber. It's almost like going on a trip to zombie land with the way that some of 'em act.

Bikes are made from pipes. Yeah.......I get that, but you also realize that if you packed a bike frame with something, it would more than likely be traced by some kind of sniffer that they'd more than likely have in the place? It's kinda hard to make a bicycle into a bomb that ISN'T strapped on. I've researched some of the bicycle bombs, and most of them that I've read about had something strapped in the basket (no.......my bicycle WOULD NEVER have a basket), or strapped to the back.

Besides.........I've got several thousand miles on that bike (over 1500 in Amarillo alone just this summer, and that's not counting the trips that I've done over the Eastern seaboard), so no only is it something that I like, but I've grown kinda attached to my bike since I bought it in '97.

But, like I said, these knee jerk reactions have gotta cease.

As far as turning it into something explosive? It's only that way when I jump on the pedals and start sprinting outta the stop lights. I can hit 24 before I'm even across the intersection.

 

[ABikerSailor]

ABS, there have been several serious attacks on IRS buildings just this year.

Man Angry at IRS Crashes Plane into Office - CBS News

White Powder Found at IRS Facility in Odgen, Utah: Anthrax Attack? - Associated Content - associatedcontent.com

Is the IRS Under Attack? | Wall St. Cheat Sheet

Facilities ? Fedline - The Federal Times Blog - federal news, government operations, agency management, pay & benefits

Dun provoke the guards, ABS. In all likelihood they are federal cops, not rent-a-cops. You need to adjust your reality-viewer; they will not make any exceptions to whatever procedures they have been instructed to follow. All that'll happen is you'll end up annoyed or even being held.

Get a good locking chain for your bike. I'm very sorry this happened to you, but things have changed for federal workers more than they have for the rest of us.

Bicycles aren't planes or car bombs Madeline. And, to rig something like that which would pass, would take a lot of cash, as well as a lot of work.

I ain't got the cash, I don't like to do extra work, and besides that.......I really like my bicycle and hope to ride it for several decades more.

What's even more, is I'm a 20 year retired Navy veteran who has served in 4 war zones, and to be lumped into that category just really harshes my mellow.

And I was in such a good mood before the IRS...........but the ride back and the cute girls who said "hi" to me put me back in an okay mood.

Bitching about it on here helped a bit too.

 

[saveliberty]

I had to go to the IRS offices today to pay off some stuff. Since it was a nice day (as well as since I was able to take my bicycle in with me LAST time), I decided to ride out there and back (only about 15 miles round trip).

When I got there, the security guard (who was there last month when I went in to make a payment), told me that I had to put my bicycle out in the lobby (where there was nobody to watch it), as it was a possibility that it could be a bomb.

Now listen.........yeah, there have been suicide bombers using motorcycles, and maybe one of 'em was able to make a SMALL bomb out of a bicycle in Pakistan, but WTF?

My bike is a Lemond Zurich which is made out of chromoly steel tubing (Reynolds 883 to be exact), with deep dish aluminum rims that are only about 22 mm wide, and the main tubes on the frame are only about 1 1/2 inches wide.

Additionally, there is NOTHING that hangs off of my bike other than a very small tool kit and a frame pump.

What the fuck.........have we become such a paranoid nation that a retired Navy veteran such as myself now gets accused of having a possibility of a bomb in a BICYCLE?????

This paranoia that the nation is going through is starting to get out of hand. What do you guys think?

You have a couple of things working against you here:

1. Obama is targeting vets as terrorists.
2. IRS employees don't get out much. I'm surprised they knew it was a bike.
3. Bikes are made from pipes.

I guess my question is, it WILL be a bomb next time right?

Obama is targeting vets as terrorists? Got a link for that one?

Yeah.......I was kinda surprised they knew it was a bike as well, because everytime I've been there, the place is way boring and somber. It's almost like going on a trip to zombie land with the way that some of 'em act.

Bikes are made from pipes. Yeah.......I get that, but you also realize that if you packed a bike frame with something, it would more than likely be traced by some kind of sniffer that they'd more than likely have in the place? It's kinda hard to make a bicycle into a bomb that ISN'T strapped on. I've researched some of the bicycle bombs, and most of them that I've read about had something strapped in the basket (no.......my bicycle WOULD NEVER have a basket), or strapped to the back.

Besides.........I've got several thousand miles on that bike (over 1500 in Amarillo alone just this summer, and that's not counting the trips that I've done over the Eastern seaboard), so no only is it something that I like, but I've grown kinda attached to my bike since I bought it in '97.

But, like I said, these knee jerk reactions have gotta cease.

As far as turning it into something explosive? It's only that way when I jump on the pedals and start sprinting outta the stop lights. I can hit 24 before I'm even across the intersection.

Your right, they should have let you in with the bike. Just kidding you. They don't let cell phones in many court houses anymore. Equally stupid.