Iraq demands all US troops leave - Obama takes credit for ending the war in Iraq

[Lakhota]

Were you in a coma when this happened? After 9/11, patriotism was at a fever pitch. Even though Bush lied us into Iraq, Democrats gave him the benefit of the doubt at the time. America gave Bush the benefit of the doubt at that time. It would have seemed treasonous to have done otherwise at the time. We didn't fully learn/realize the truth until it was too late. I'll never forget the first time I saw Bush make his 9/11 connection to Iraq. Then he started with all that WMD, yellowcake, mushroom cloud bullshit. His ass should be in prison pounding rocks!

Quotes reproduce statements made by Democratic leaders about Saddam Hussein's acquisition or possession of weapons of mass destruction.

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998.

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998.

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.

"There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001.

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
Sen. Carl Levin (d, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seing and developing weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force ? if necessary ? to disarm Saddam Hussein because
I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002.

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years . We also should remember we have alway s underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Jay Rockerfeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002,

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do."
Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002.

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program.
He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction. "[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he has continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.

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Now, post what the weapons inspectors have said.

 

[Nunz]

 

[Nunz]

Were you in a coma when this happened? After 9/11, patriotism was at a fever pitch. Even though Bush lied us into Iraq, Democrats gave him the benefit of the doubt at the time. America gave Bush the benefit of the doubt at that time. It would have seemed treasonous to have done otherwise at the time. We didn't fully learn/realize the truth until it was too late. I'll never forget the first time I saw Bush make his 9/11 connection to Iraq. Then he started with all that WMD, yellowcake, mushroom cloud bullshit. His ass should be in prison pounding rocks!

Quotes reproduce statements made by Democratic leaders about Saddam Hussein's acquisition or possession of weapons of mass destruction.

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998.

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998.

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.

"There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001.

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
Sen. Carl Levin (d, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seing and developing weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force ? if necessary ? to disarm Saddam Hussein because
I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002.

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years . We also should remember we have alway s underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Jay Rockerfeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002,

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do."
Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002.

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program.
He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction. "[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he has continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.

snopes.com: Weapons of Mass Destruction Quotes

Now, post what the weapons inspectors have said.

You mean to tell me that Hussein/Iraq complied with United Nations Security Council Resolution 1441, and granted all weapons inspectors full access as stipulated by Resolution 1441?

 

[IndependntLogic]

You mean to tell me that Hussein/Iraq complied with United Nations Security Council Resolution 1441, and granted all weapons inspectors full access as stipulated by Resolution 1441?[/QUOTE]

Oh wait. We invaded because of our great respect for the UN? Those folks who voted AGAINST us invading? So it was out of our great respect for the folks who voted against us invading, that we invaded?

Um yeah. Okay.

 

[Nunz]

The WikiLeaks Vindication of George W. Bush - RealClearPolitics - The WikiLeaks Vindication of George W. Bush


"In 2008, our military shipped out of Iraq -- on 37 flights in 3,500 barrels -- what even The Associated Press called "the last major remnant of Saddam Hussein's nuclear program": 550 metric tons of the supposedly nonexistent yellowcake."



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Media Slow To Show WikiLeaks Justified Iraq War - Media Slow To Show WikiLeaks Justified Iraq War - HUMAN EVENTS


"A September 2004 New York Times op-ed by the former head of Saddam’s nuclear research program supported this, as well. He wrote:

"[T]he West never understood the delusional nature of Saddam Hussein’s mind . . . he lived in a fantasy world . . . . giving lunatic orders . . . he kept the country’s Atomic Energy Commission alive . . . Saddam fooled . . . the world . . . . [O]ur nuclear program could have been reinstituted at the snap of Saddam Hussein’s fingers."

Of note too is a January 2004 revelation by Syrian journalist defector Nizar Nayuf. He reported there were three locations in Syria where Iraqi WMDs had been transported prior to the 2003 invasion and were being stored. He also revealed some of these sites were being built with North Korean cooperation. This explained why three years later Israel attacked a nuclear facility being built in Syria by Pyongyang — and Syria’s subsequent failure to criticize Israel for fear of drawing further international attention to what Damascus had been doing.

Five years after Joe Wilson’s op-ed claimed no yellowcake was sold to Iraq — the ease with which Saddam could have snapped his fingers and reinstituted his nuclear program became apparent. In July 2008, in an operation kept secret at the time, 37 military air cargo flights shipped more than 500 metric tons of yellowcake — found in Iraq — out of the country for further transport and remediation to Canada."


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WikiLeaks Show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq – With Surprising Results - WikiLeaks Show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq – With Surprising Results | Danger Room | Wired.com

"By late 2003, even the Bush White House’s staunchest defenders were starting to give up on the idea that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

But WikiLeaks’ newly-released Iraq war documents reveal that for years afterward, U.S. troops continued to find chemical weapons labs, encounter insurgent specialists in toxins and uncover weapons of mass destruction."


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WikiLeaks docs prove Saddam had WMD, threats remain - WikiLeaks docs prove Saddam had WMD, threats remain :: Weekly Blitz

"The nearly 400,000 Iraq war log documents released by WikiLeaks on Friday were full of evidence of abuses, civilian deaths and the chaos of war, but clear evidence of weapons of mass destruction--the Bush administration's justification for invading Iraq--appears to be missing."

There are two falsehoods in that sentence, demonstrating the difficulty in trying to spin a clear fact. The Bush administration's justification for invading Iraq was much broader than WMD--in fact, it was similar to the litany of reasons the Clinton administration signed the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998, which specifically called for regime change in Iraq as the official policy of the United States government (Iraq had repeatedly violated international law, Iraq had failed to comply with the obligations that ended the Gulf War, Iraq had circumvented U.N. resolutions, etc.).

"If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow," President Clinton said in February 1998. "Some day, some way, I guarantee you, he'll use the arsenal."

The second falsehood was the phrase "appears to be missing." In August 2004, American soldiers seized a toxic "blister agent," a chemical weapon used since the First World War, Wired reported. In Anbar province, they discovered a chemical lab and a "chemical cache." Three years later, U.S. military found buried WMD, and even as recent as 2008 found chemical munitions."

 

[Lakhota]

snopes.com: Weapons of Mass Destruction Quotes

Now, post what the weapons inspectors have said.

You mean to tell me that Hussein/Iraq complied with United Nations Security Council Resolution 1441, and granted all weapons inspectors full access as stipulated by Resolution 1441?

Saddam was pissed because U.S. was planting spies among inspectors - which has been confirmed. Anyway, Bush ordered inspectors out before the invasion. Again, BUSH ordered them out.

 

[Nunz]

You mean to tell me that Hussein/Iraq complied with United Nations Security Council Resolution 1441, and granted all weapons inspectors full access as stipulated by Resolution 1441?

Oh wait. We invaded because of our great respect for the UN? Those folks who voted AGAINST us invading? So it was out of our great respect for the folks who voted against us invading, that we invaded?

Um yeah. Okay.

What i am saying, is that, had Saddam Hussein fully complied with Resolution 1441, and given the inspectors full access (instead of denying then entry into specific areas, and sending them away multiple times) that we could've made a thorough investigation, and would've come to a better conclusion of what the WMD situation was.

So, yes, we attacked because Saddam Hussein didn't fully comply with United Nations Security Council Resolution 1441.

 

[Lakhota]

You mean to tell me that Hussein/Iraq complied with United Nations Security Council Resolution 1441, and granted all weapons inspectors full access as stipulated by Resolution 1441?

Oh wait. We invaded because of our great respect for the UN? Those folks who voted AGAINST us invading? So it was out of our great respect for the folks who voted against us invading, that we invaded?

Um yeah. Okay.

What i am saying, is that, had Saddam Hussein fully complied with Resolution 1441, and given the inspectors full access (instead of denying then entry into specific areas, and sending them away multiple times) that we could've made a thorough investigation, and would've come to a better conclusion of what the WMD situation was.

So, yes, we attacked because Saddam Hussein didn't fully comply with United Nations Security Council Resolution 1441.

Well, that's the dumbest thing I've seen on my computer all day. Goodnight...

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvDe7Z-ykDo&feature=player_detailpage]Bush kicked out weapons inspectors not Saddam (2003) - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Nunz]

Saddam was pissed because U.S. was planting spies among inspectors - which has been confirmed. Anyway, Bush ordered inspectors out before the invasion. Again, BUSH ordered them out.

United Nations Security Council Resolution 1441 is a United Nations Security Council resolution adopted unanimously by the United Nations Security Council on November 8, 2002, offering Iraq under Saddam Hussein "a final opportunity to comply with its disarmament obligations" that had been set out in several previous resolutions (Resolution 660, Resolution 661, Resolution 678, Resolution 686, Resolution 687, Resolution 688, Resolution 707, Resolution 715, Resolution 986, and Resolution 1284).
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Iraq agreed to the Resolution on 13 November. Weapons inspectors returned on November 27, led by Hans Blix of UNMOVIC and Mohamed ElBaradei of the International Atomic Energy Agency. The inspectors had been absent from Iraq since December 1998 when they were withdrawn immediately prior to Operation Desert Fox

Inspectors began visiting sites where WMD production was suspected, but found no evidence of such activities, except for 18 undeclared 122mm chemical rockets that were destroyed under UNMOVIC supervision. P. 30 As was discovered after the invasion of Iraq, no production of WMDs was taking place, and no stockpiles existed. U.N. inspectors also found that the Al-Samoud-2 and Al-fatah missiles violated U.N. range restrictions, the former also being partially destroyed under UNMOVIC supervision. Debate about Resolution 1441 therefore turns on whether, despite the absence of WMDs and the acceptance of inspections, Iraq failed to comply with the terms of the Resolution, and whether an invasion was justified in the absence of any further UN Security resolutions on the subject.

On December 7, 2002, Iraq filed its 12,000-page weapons declaration with the UN in order to meet requirements for this resolution. The five permanent members of the Security Council received unedited versions of the report, while an edited version was made available for other UN Member States. On December 19, Hans Blix reported before the United Nations and stated in regards to Iraq's December 7 report (unedited version): "During the period 1991-1998, Iraq submitted many declarations called full, final and complete. Regrettably, much in these declarations proved inaccurate or incomplete or was unsupported or contradicted by evidence. In such cases, no confidence can arise that proscribed programmes or items have been eliminated." By March, Blix declared that the December 7 report had not brought any new documentary evidence to light.

Iraq continued to fail to account for substantial chemical and biological stockpiles which UNMOVIC inspectors had confirmed as existing as late as 1998. Iraq claimed that it had disposed of its anthrax stockpiles at a specific site, but UNMOVIC found this impossible to confirm since Iraq had not allowed the destruction to be witnessed by inspectors as required by the pertinent Resolutions. Chemical testing done at the site was unable to show that any anthrax had been destroyed there.

Hans Blix and Mohamed ElBaradei presented several reports to the UN detailing Iraq's level of compliance with Resolution 1441. On January 27, 2003 Chief UN Weapons Inspector Blix addressed the UN Security Council and stated "Iraq appears not to have come to a genuine acceptance -- not even today -- of the disarmament, which was demanded of it and which it needs to carry out to win the confidence of the world and to live in peace." Blix went on to state that the Iraqi regime had allegedly misplaced "1,000 tonnes" of VX nerve agent—one of the most toxic ever developed.

By mid-February the issues of anthrax, the nerve agent VX and long-range missiles remained unresolved. Blix's March 7 report stated "Iraq, with a highly developed administrative system, should be able to provide more documentary evidence about its proscribed weapons programmes. Only a few new such documents have come to light so far and been handed over since we began inspections."

United Nations Security Council Resolution 1441 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[JoeB131]

No we're leaving because while Bush was still in office, they told us they were giving us the boot. Because while you betch about the deficit out of one side of your mouth, you'll support spending money on this worthless endeavor forever - until it's a Conserv who pulls us out. Then you'd say it was wise and in the interest of the budget.

Don't tell me what I "would say" you asswipe. It's going to cost us a lot more in the long run to pay for this short-sighted campaign stunt than a continued, stabilizing force in the region would. Myopic dim-wits like you can't see what you don't want to see.

You're um, emotional, aren't you? Settle down sweetheart, you'll burst a vein or something.
We were given the boot by the corrupt government whom we placed in power. THAT was short-sighted. Now the folks in power in Iraq, have a religious connection with both Iran and Syria. Yeah. That was brilliant. Not.
We've created the biggest Alliance of fundamentalist Islam in Middle-East history: Iran, Iraq and Syria. No more bickering over Shia vs. Sunni, they're all lovin each other and hating us. Which is what was predicted almost 9 years ago. Talk about short-sighted. But of course, the kool-aid drinkers drank it up...

I'm not sure how Syria gets into this, because Bashir Assad's hanging on by a thread. He may end up going the way of Khadafy soon enough.

The Shi'ite goverment in Iraq might be more inclined towards Iran, but Iran has its own problems. In five years, their oil runs out.

Our problem in that region is that they have conflicts that have been going on before anyone knew there was some place called "America".

 

[Nunz]

You mean to tell me that Hussein/Iraq complied with United Nations Security Council Resolution 1441, and granted all weapons inspectors full access as stipulated by Resolution 1441?

Oh wait. We invaded because of our great respect for the UN? Those folks who voted AGAINST us invading? So it was out of our great respect for the folks who voted against us invading, that we invaded?

Um yeah. Okay.

What i am saying, is that, had Saddam Hussein fully complied with Resolution 1441, and given the inspectors full access (instead of denying then entry into specific areas, and sending them away multiple times) that we could've made a thorough investigation, and would've come to a better conclusion of what the WMD situation was.

So, yes, we attacked because Saddam Hussein didn't fully comply with United Nations Security Council Resolution 1441.

Well, that's the dumbest thing I've seen on my computer all day. Goodnight...

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvDe7Z-ykDo&feature=player_detailpage]Bush kicked out weapons inspectors not Saddam (2003) - YouTube[/ame]

Nice Youtube mashup.

Yeah, after 18 months of going back and forth, and multiple unfulfilled resolutions, Bush told the weapons inspectors to leave, because the hammer was about to drop.

What, did you want the inspectors to become casualties of war?

 

[Ravi]

lmao!

 

[Lovebears65]

Thank you, Mr. President.

What exactly did Obama do? They told us to leave. Obama wanted 15000 troops to stay back for training and security. Go ahead and believe that Obama is the man. He is the worst president since Carter

 

[MikeFrank]

President Obama’s speech formally declaring that the last 43,000 U.S. troops will leave Iraq by the end of the year was designed to mask an unpleasant truth: The troops aren’t being withdrawn because the U.S. wants them out. They’re leaving because the Iraqi government refused to let them stay.

Obama campaigned on ending the war in Iraq but had instead spent the past few months trying to extend it. A 2008 security deal between Washington and Baghdad called for all American forces to leave Iraq by the end of the year, but the White House -- anxious about growing Iranian influence and Iraq’s continuing political and security challenges -- publicly and privately tried to sell the Iraqis on a troop extension. As recently as last week, the White House was trying to persuade the Iraqis to allow 2,000-3,000 troops to stay beyond the end of the year.


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You mean to tell me 3 pages of posts from so many posters on here and no one thought to follow the link but me??? Seriously???

The link goes to another forum, Herman Cains forum to be exact... Thats it, just link to a post in Herman Cains forum from some random poster... Not to the Times, the Post, hell not even a decent blog...

Jesus people... Check the source first, damn.. Who cares what some random forum poster at herman cains forum says about troop removal?

Troop removal is happening because its time, wouldn't matter who is in office. No one can occupy a country forever, and no one wants to. its costly both financially and in terms of public opinion. And obama isn't unaware of his problems in popularity lately... He would no sooner fight to keep soldiers there than I would at this point. This is called "make myself electable" or "save my ass" and its been expected.

Either way, I am glad they are coming home and we have one less front to fight on...

That being said, its in a herman cain forum for god's sake what did you expect to hear?

Because it goes to an article written by another forum makes it untrue? really? Perhaps you should read further, this was all confirmed by reuters, try a google serach and you will now see many MSM sites that have actually picked up and wrote about it now too. Don't bash something you have no facts about, do some research first.

 

[daveman]

Thank you, Mr. President.

Why? What did he do, besides follow the timetable established during the Bush Administration?

 

[Full-Auto]

Thank you, Mr. President.

Why? What did he do, besides follow the timetable established during the Bush Administration?

Maybe he is excited that Obama is meeting his 16 month pledge.

 

[daveman]

Now the true test of Bush's legacy. Once we're gone, will the country remain stable.

If it does, then I think Bush can truly high five history and ride out on a positive note. If it doesn't? Then he should prepare for a scathing review in the history books.

Bush is a war criminal either way!

No frog-march in chains. No perp walk. No Hague.

Give it up and grow up.

 

[daveman]

President Obama’s speech formally declaring that the last 43,000 U.S. troops will leave Iraq by the end of the year was designed to mask an unpleasant truth: The troops aren’t being withdrawn because the U.S. wants them out. They’re leaving because the Iraqi government refused to let them stay.

Obama campaigned on ending the war in Iraq but had instead spent the past few months trying to extend it. A 2008 security deal between Washington and Baghdad called for all American forces to leave Iraq by the end of the year, but the White House -- anxious about growing Iranian influence and Iraq’s continuing political and security challenges -- publicly and privately tried to sell the Iraqis on a troop extension. As recently as last week, the White House was trying to persuade the Iraqis to allow 2,000-3,000 troops to stay beyond the end of the year.


More : Iraq demands all US troops leave - Obama takes credit for ending the war in Iraq

That's a blog from the Herman Cain website.

Obama is following the agreement unilaterally signed by George Bush keeping us trapped in Iraq until this December. It wasn't approved by Congress. Bush signed it completely on his own. Obama followed the agreement by this nation that was forced on us by Bush.

That's what someone with honor does. No wonder Republicans don't understand. The only Republican candidate that has any foreign policy experience is Huntsman who got his working for Obama.

If Obama's so honorable, why's he taking credit for a decision he had no part in making?

 

[daveman]

They told us to leave? Oh good! Now we can get the fuck out.

FWIW, they didn't tell us to leave - they simply said our troops would not be immune from Iraqi law.

Simply... that's kind of a big thing. Immunity is for these kind of instances, I wouldn't trust any iraqi police, judges, or the justice system in whole to be fair if anything happens. I'm saying I could see lies and exaggerations rampant.

Yep, ole Saddam learned about kangaroo court and lynching...

Saddam thanks you for your support, but regrets to inform you he was executed by the Iraqi people for his crimes against them.

You cried when he hung, didn't you?

 

[daveman]

Thank you, Mr. President.

Why? What did he do, besides follow the timetable established during the Bush Administration?

Maybe he is excited that Obama is meeting his 16 month pledge.