'Innocence of Muslims' filmmaker taken

[Liberal]

You people need to calm the fuck down..

There is nothing that states that this man was taken in via an executive order.

He is on probation for fraud, and was taken in by the local sheriff (not the FBI, CIA, MIB, Illuminati or whatever). Specifically for QUESTIONING, in regarding to his probation and possible violation.

This has nothing to do with Obama.. It has everything to do with the controversy around this video, the attention that it garnered and in turn the light that it brought to his identity and his suspected use of internet handles that is, in turn, a violation of his probation.

The man being brought in at the behest of the FEDERAL Probation Dept. has nothing to do with Obama? ( did you miss the FEDERAL part )

You got a copy of that memo?

Furthermore, I thought that all Obama is worried about was campaigning? (LOL) Where does have all of the time to fill out these executive orders? Or does Obama spend all of his time single-handedly managing EVERY single office with the word FEDERAL in the title?

Which lie or exaggeration placates to your conspiracy today?

Give it a break.

 

[Katzndogz]

We can prove how serious we are in placating muslims not by putting Nakoula in prison, but by instituting sharia law and releasing the blind cleric.

 

[Vel]

You people need to calm the fuck down..

There is nothing that states that this man was taken in via an executive order.

He is on probation for fraud, and was taken in by the local sheriff (not the FBI, CIA, MIB, Illuminati or whatever). Specifically for QUESTIONING, in regarding to his probation and possible violation.

This has nothing to do with Obama.. It has everything to do with the controversy around this video, the attention that it garnered and in turn the light that it brought to his identity and his suspected use of internet handles that is, in turn, a violation of his probation.

The man being brought in at the behest of the FEDERAL Probation Dept. has nothing to do with Obama? ( did you miss the FEDERAL part )

You got a copy of that memo?

Furthermore, I thought that all Obama is worried about was campaigning? (LOL) Where does have all of the time to fill out these executive orders? Or does Obama spend all of his time single-handedly managing EVERY single office with the word FEDERAL in the title?

Which lie or exaggeration placates to your conspiracy today?

Give it a break.

If Obama does not have a hand in anything and everything regarding these uprisings after the deaths of our consulate personnel, then that in itself shows that he's incompetent to be POTUS.

 

[Liberal]

We can prove how serious we are in placating muslims not by putting Nakoula in prison, but by instituting sharia law and releasing the blind cleric.

Why do you always ramble on?

Who are you talking to? You remind me of a crazy transient man, just popn' up and spout some useless shit..

Nobody is putting this man in jail. You have said that yourself already, about 4 TIMES now.

 

[Liberal]

If Obama does not have a hand in anything and everything regarding these uprisings after the deaths of our consulate personnel, then that in itself shows that he's incompetent to be POTUS.

Sooo, what kind of a reply is this?

Are you saying that he should be filling out executive orders pulling the man for questioning?

 

[koshergrl]

I was scrolling down the thread titles and thought I saw..

"Innocence of Muslims filmaker taken".

Someone "took" his innocence? In jail?

That's just bad.

 

[eshrdlu]

Others may have addressed this already, but isn't there a difference between the right to free speech and conspiracy to incite a riot? Inciting violence is illegal.

 

[Vel]

If Obama does not have a hand in anything and everything regarding these uprisings after the deaths of our consulate personnel, then that in itself shows that he's incompetent to be POTUS.

Sooo, what kind of a reply is this?

Are you saying that he should be filling out executive orders pulling the man for questioning?

I'm saying that there should be nothing happening that affects this situation which Obama does not know of and approve of in advance. If he's letting others decide how to handle this, and what type of messages this nation projects, then what are we paying Obama for?
That image of the film maker being taken in was designed to appease radicals in the M.E. Unfortunately, it will also convince many in the Muslim world that the government CAN clamp down on whatever they consider to be insulting to islam. A stupid message to send don't you think?

 

[Katzndogz]

"Innocence of Muslims" is the extreme Christian version of Nazi propaganda.

Does the cowardly shitbird have the right to make Christian Nazi propaganda?

Yes, he does.

Does the cowardly shitbird have the right to then call the media after some Americans are killed over it and stoke the fires further by proclaiming "Islam is a cancer" and then LIE by claiming to be an Israeli Jew with funding from hundreds of Israeli Jews?

This is where his defenders suddenly go deaf and dumb. They want the issue to stop at "Thiz is free speech, duh!"

This is way beyond free speech. This is about a man who tried to get innocent people killed. This is about a man who worked very hard to get innocent people killed.

So all your whining about his life now being in danger because the TRUTH is now out there is pathetic. You have yourselves all twisted up and acting stupidly in his defense.


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He made a movie trailer two years ago. Someone (not him) dubbed it in to arabic. Someone distributed the altered trailer to mosques throughout the middle east. Saying islam is a cancer is a perfectly legal thing to say. Islam is a cancer and there's no getting around it.

Someday, we might have a dubbed in arabic version of Harry Potter claiming that Voldemort is mohammed. What will you do then?

And if innocent Israelis were killed because of his lie, would you still be defending this coward?

You really are unbelievably stupid in your defense of his actions.


I am very happy this coward's name is out there now. I am very happy that he is going to personally find out what standing up for one's freedoms really means, instead of trying to make others pay the price.


This guy is an unequivocal coward. Just like every other Nazi.


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Would you support prosecuting the four directors who made Harry Potter if it was widely believed among muslims that Voldemort represented mohmmmed? Psst, Darth Vader is really mohammed in a Darth Vader suit. Pass it on.

What you don't really understand is that Americans will fight for the right to commit blasphemy. Americans support blasphemy in all its forms no matter what the religion. If this man is a coward aren't Matt Parker and Trey Stone equal cowards for putting mohammed in a bear suit? This kind of violence is going to happen whenever there is a slight to islam, no matter how large or trivial that slight is.

Are you willing to criminalize blasphemy against islam? Should the girl who was so disgusted by muslim rioting that she proposed an "everybody draw mohmmed day" be arrested?

 

[martybegan]

Others may have addressed this already, but isn't there a difference between the right to free speech and conspiracy to incite a riot? Inciting violence is illegal.

Typically inciting anything revolves around you egging on supporters of your point to go perform violence at your direction. This would be like a KKK grand wizard saying "hanging black people is a great idea, you should go do it" and then some people at the rally go out and do it.

In the case of a riot, again, it would be, say, a black community organizer, telling a crowd to loot a rich white neighborhood, and the crowd goes out and does it.

Typically ones is not guilty of inciting when one is speaking a position in opposition to those listening. In that case fighting words may apply, and only if the speech is directed at someone directly.

 

[Katzndogz]

Others may have addressed this already, but isn't there a difference between the right to free speech and conspiracy to incite a riot? Inciting violence is illegal.

It has to be an immediate incitement of violence. A movie trailer made two years ago wouldn't qualify.

 

[Katzndogz]

Others may have addressed this already, but isn't there a difference between the right to free speech and conspiracy to incite a riot? Inciting violence is illegal.

Typically inciting anything revolves around you egging on supporters of your point to go perform violence at your direction. This would be like a KKK grand wizard saying "hanging black people is a great idea, you should go do it" and then some people at the rally go out and do it.

In the case of a riot, again, it would be, say, a black community organizer, telling a crowd to loot a rich white neighborhood, and the crowd goes out and does it.

Typically ones is not guilty of inciting when one is speaking a position in opposition to those listening. In that case fighting words may apply, and only if the speech is directed at someone directly.

If your analogy was correct, it would be resurrecting a speech given in 1948 to justify a riot today.

 

[martybegan]

Others may have addressed this already, but isn't there a difference between the right to free speech and conspiracy to incite a riot? Inciting violence is illegal.

Typically inciting anything revolves around you egging on supporters of your point to go perform violence at your direction. This would be like a KKK grand wizard saying "hanging black people is a great idea, you should go do it" and then some people at the rally go out and do it.

In the case of a riot, again, it would be, say, a black community organizer, telling a crowd to loot a rich white neighborhood, and the crowd goes out and does it.

Typically ones is not guilty of inciting when one is speaking a position in opposition to those listening. In that case fighting words may apply, and only if the speech is directed at someone directly.

If your analogy was correct, it would be resurrecting a speech given in 1948 to justify a riot today.

I dont think it is even that close. There is no criminal incitement here to be seen at all.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Typically inciting anything revolves around you egging on supporters of your point to go perform violence at your direction. This would be like a KKK grand wizard saying "hanging black people is a great idea, you should go do it" and then some people at the rally go out and do it.

In the case of a riot, again, it would be, say, a black community organizer, telling a crowd to loot a rich white neighborhood, and the crowd goes out and does it.

Typically ones is not guilty of inciting when one is speaking a position in opposition to those listening. In that case fighting words may apply, and only if the speech is directed at someone directly.

If your analogy was correct, it would be resurrecting a speech given in 1948 to justify a riot today.

I dont think it is even that close. There is no criminal incitement here to be seen at all.

except on the part of the muslims....

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Others may have addressed this already, but isn't there a difference between the right to free speech and conspiracy to incite a riot? Inciting violence is illegal.

Making a movie is not inciting a riot. Sorry to have to explain the 1st Amendment to you.

 

[martybegan]

If your analogy was correct, it would be resurrecting a speech given in 1948 to justify a riot today.

I dont think it is even that close. There is no criminal incitement here to be seen at all.

except on the part of the muslims....

Thats butthurt, not incitement.

 

[Katzndogz]

The plot sickens.

obama has ordered Google to take the video down. Google responded by saying that the laws of these muslim countries forbid this video from EVER being accessed so it was never accessed in any of these muslim countries! They never saw it on the internet.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

As I understand it since one was made, you can also make a film about assassinating the President. I don't recall the left having ANY problems when that was done.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The plot sickens.

obama has ordered Google to take the video down. Google responded by saying that the laws of these muslim countries forbid this video from EVER being accessed so it was never accessed in any of these muslim countries! They never saw it on the internet.

Further Google violated NO US law. Obama has no authority.

 

[koshergrl]

Others may have addressed this already, but isn't there a difference between the right to free speech and conspiracy to incite a riot? Inciting violence is illegal.

Making a movie is not inciting a riot. Sorry to have to explain the 1st Amendment to you.

The thing that anti-freedom, anti-American pieces of shit don't understand...

Just because someone SAYS their bad behavior is BECAUSE of something does not mean that something is something BAD. It just means a psycho has come up with a *reason* to be a psycho. It's an excuse.

Women who are beaten internalize all the *reasons* they are told are the *reasons* their abusers attack them, and believe it. But as those of us on the outside know, it doesn't matter. They don't cause someone to act that way.

Same thing with Islam. Just because they say something has offended them doesn't mean that thing is bad in and of itself. We can't creep around on our bellies for fear we'll "trigger" a maniacal rage on the part of Islam. They are the ones with the problem.

Women will often get to a point where they deliberately trigger outbreaks in order to get it over with.

I think the rest of the world is just about there with fucking Islam. We need to take over the Middle East completely. The dumbasses have been a sore on the earth long enough.