I never claimed you or the author did. I claimed the author and you were claiming that by asking for Price's resignation Trump did something that Obama never did. A point I debunked by pointing out that even the article stated that Petzel was asked to retire, and several more instances of firings , dismissals and demotions in the aftermath of the scandals given.Obama administration resignations and firingsI'm guessing you know my point wasn't that you selectively quoted the article, although you kind of did. My point was that the article was contradictory within itself. I Highlighted and underlined it. And I believe your point was that Trump fired Price and because of that he did something that Obama never did. Only thing is Trump hasn't outright fired anyone either. He maybe, but lets assume its true asked for Price to resign. If you consider that firing fine, but then as sited in the article Obama asked Petzel to retire. Denis Burke was forced to resign and Melson demoted. Pretty sure there,'s others. So how is does your point hold?Your excerpts seem to be interestingly chosen. Just like the article itself seems to contradict itself. For instance. First it says this. "Trump just accepted the resignation", to then say this" Trump accepted responsibility. His guy screwed up, and Trump owned up to that failure by firing the guy he chose." Now I know what you are going to say, its just semantics. I agree but then this would be a contradiction.He did not fire anyone. Obama instead had his secretary of health and human services request that the VA's top health official, Robert Petzel, retire — a few months earlier than Petzel originally planned." It then blasts Obama for as the article states "When tax agents targeted conservatives for their political beliefs, violating their First Amendment rights" While the sentence before reads "Trump later fired more than 500 federal employees via executive order." In the end it comes down to the following. You site an article that is so biased it contradicts its own viewpoints in the same paragraphs. And as such your OP fails.
I would have copied the entire article and pasted it here except that board management recently admonished me for doing so. That's why I provided the link. The point remains the same, Obama fired NOBODY for malfeasance.
Were they cabinet members?
Please ask management if we can paste entire articles here.
Here you are, quite a few of these resigned because of real or suspected fuck ups. So I'll ask again how does your point hold? I also see you are trying to redefine your position from. Obama never fired anybody, to he fired nobody in a cabinet position. You could further redefine it too Obama never fired the HHS director on the 29 of September 2017 since the list does include directors of several governmental agencies.
I don't believe the author, nor was I, stating or implying that literally NOBODY ever left a government post under Obama. The link you provided doesn't get into specifics and I believe the reader is left to wonder if they were pushed out or left for greener pastures. After all, it's not uncommon for high-level federal workers to go into lobbying or private contract work.
I think what the author was trying to say, and which I happen to agree, is that Obama had a number of high-profile opportunities to fire or force the resignation of someone who acted improperly, and declined to do so.
For that matter, how many people did Obama hire that were involved in IRS tax issues? Obama had promised to be the most transparent administration in history and, instead, his was probably the most secretive, aided, abetted and protected by much of America's hard-left media.
Something you tried to solve by moving the goalposts by stating that none of those dismissals were as high profile as Price. Something I then debunked by giving a list of several high profile dismissals during the Obama administration. This is to recap.
Which brings me to your current argument.
-The first of which is that the link I provided didn't provide sufficient prove between the dismissals and the subsequent leaving of government services. To that argument I say. You are right, if that link was the only information available and you were unable to get more information. What it is in my view is feigned ignorance. Petraeus for instance was a high profile resignation that I refuse to believe someone who post on a political forum would be unaware of.Petraeus scandal - Wikipedia
-Your second argument is another moving of the goalpost by redefining your original OP to state that you weren't claiming Nobody left government service but that Obama didn't always fire those who acted improperly. It something I won't try to dispute since it's true. I will dispute that that is the premise of this OP, since its purpose clearly is to try to paint the firing of Price as an act of political courage Obama never had. Something I think I proved wrong from a factual standpoint, both by pointing out that Obama did the exact thing Trump did and by pointing out now that there have been instances when Trump didn't fire people himself who act inappropriately. Another Trump Cabinet Member Gets Wrist Slapped for Abusing Taxpayer Money for Private Jets
- Care to try again?