"I'll kill him graveyard dead"

[Samson]

the bloodthirsty trigger happy posts of some posters here, I might be disturbed enough by their love of violence to reconsider my stance on gun ownership. Thank goodness they are not representative of gun owners in general!

Here's me and the last tresspasser I had to deal with:

 

[Anguille]

What a vicious lil Jew hater you are.

I bet you would have been glad he was dead, if it turned out he was a jew.

You are a sick person. Get help.

Look who's talking.

At least i don't bang the drum for holocaust deniers because 'they make me laugh.'

Oh, and it could not be more politically correct then to say this woman should have let this jerk crash her house and attack her before she defended herself, the way a certain jew hating moron did.

Who was that again toots?

Sorry, not in the mood to get in a pointless fight with a drunken troll.

 

[The T]

I have to remind myself, after having read several posts in this thread, that the majority of gun owners are responsible citizens. Because otherwise, having read the bloodthirsty trigger happy posts of some posters here, I might be disturbed enough by their love of violence to reconsider my stance on gun ownership. Thank goodness they are not representative of gun owners in general!

I see...so a persons' love of Life, Liberty, and their vehement protection of that persuit has you stumped? What PART of the SECOND Amendment do you NOT get?

What part of the Declaration Of Independence/Constirution do you NOT get?

Some folks unlike you...aren't so fuckin' fickle on the issue of their liberty. or that of OTHERS numbnuts.

 

[Xenophon]

Sorry, not in the mood to get in a pointless fight with a drunken troll.

Its good to hear you are no longer talking to yourself, but you really should lay off the bottle, you lose a few more braincells you will be a talking monkey.

 

[The T]

Sorry, not in the mood to get in a pointless fight with a drunken troll.

Its good to hear you are no longer talking to yourself, but you really should lay off the bottle, you lose a few more braincells you will be a talking monkey.

I got yer back Brother...

 

[Anguille]

 

[The T]

Translation: "I lost the argument and this is my last retort like the sad fuckin' Statist moron that I am..."

 

[Xenophon]

Sorry, not in the mood to get in a pointless fight with a drunken troll.

Its good to hear you are no longer talking to yourself, but you really should lay off the bottle, you lose a few more braincells you will be a talking monkey.

I got yer back Brother...

Thanks.

Ol Angry is still pissed I wouldn't rep her pal the holocaust denier, seems she can't let it go.

That's a shame.

 

[The T]

Its good to hear you are no longer talking to yourself, but you really should lay off the bottle, you lose a few more braincells you will be a talking monkey.

I got yer back Brother...

Thanks.

Ol Angry is still pissed I wouldn't rep her pal the holocaust denier, seems she can't let it go.

That's a shame.

Indeed it is a shame. To carry something as trivial as a REP for revenge?

Good GOD!

So that explains the "JEW" Attacks of that poster...sad and pathetic to say the very least.

 

[The T]

the bloodthirsty trigger happy posts of some posters here, i might be disturbed enough by their love of violence to reconsider my stance on gun ownership. Thank goodness they are not representative of gun owners in general!

here's me and the last tresspasser i had to deal with:

lol!

 

[PixieStix]

I would have done the same thing as that woman. I use to sleep with a .38 under my pillow when I lived in NC. There was these guys that would stop in front of my house every night for about 3 weeks yelling things. One night I had enough. I went outside with my .38 shot it in the air over their car. They never bothered me again.

My little neice (which was 3 years old at the time) and her Mommy was there with me that night. My neice looked at her Mommy, and said " Mommy who did PixieStix kill?"

It obviously made her feel safe cuz she slept on my stomach that night

 

[The T]

I would have done the same thing as that woman. I use to sleep with a .38 under my pillow when I lived in NC. There was these guys that would stop in front of my house every night for about 3 weeks yelling things. One night I had enough. I went outside with my .38 shot it in the air over their car. They never bothered me again.

My little neice (which was 3 years old at the time) and her Mommy was there with me that night. My neice looked at her Mommy, and said " Mommy who did PixieStix kill?"

It obviously made her feel safe cuz she slept on my stomach that night

You gotta do what you gotta do to protect yourself. YOU...Have that right.

 

[PixieStix]

Ahh but we must be loyal and patriotic and stem the yellow tide....

and more recently. Nuke em all and let god sort em out.
Of course those saying that were not the ones doing the killing. Just directing others.

Trying to be Tweedle Dum to Rightwinger's Tweedle Dee?

 

[Darkwind]

National news said that he was well known by local law enforcement and had been in trouble before.

That he eventually threw a lawn chair thru the doors window so he could gain access to the house.

This is what I heard on the radio - so their is no cite and I'm going from memory.
Not true. He has priors for DUI (4 of them) and they keep saying drug offenses (but only possession of pot). What was found out, he was highly intoxicated after a night of drinking with his sister. She was passed out in his car and suffering from alcohol poisoning. Her name was Pam. Since he was intoxicated he crashed his car into a ditch. No one truly knows what he was doing at that point, whether he was trying to break into the house to call the paramedics, whether he knew or cared she had alcohol poising, whether he even knew where he was.

None of this matters though the woman acted correctly under the circumstances and you still don't know what his intentions were or how he would have reacted when he got in the house and saw an unarmed women (if she had not gun)!

I finally heard the full transcript of the call. He can be heard repeatedly banging on the door. At one point, the dispatcher asks what he is screaming and the woman says "Pam". He had just gotten into an accident and his sister was unconscious in the car. It appears he was severely drunk and was at the house for help and not to rape or maim as previously claimed.
Is is also not clear if he knew someone was in the house at the time and may have been breaking in the house to use the phone.
As much as the gun lobby holds this case up as a success story of a lone woman blowing away an intruder. It seems it may be a case of a homeowner shooting someone who was drunk and looking for help for his sister

I have to question this and honestly, doubt that this is the case.

In the age of cell phones, where every Tom, Gill and Biff has a cell phone, he was breaking in to use a land line?

In either case, the woman was fully and legally justified in protecting her own life.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Woman Shoots Intruder During 911 Call - The Early Show - CBS News

Oklahoma resident Donna Jackson faced a life or death situation when an intruder tried to break into her rural-area home last Friday.

Home alone, but armed with a shotgun, 57-year-old Jackson called 911 and begged for help, but police couldnt get there before the man was able to break through a glass door with a chair and patio table.

Jackson, who stayed on the phone with the 911 dispatcher, can be heard in the call saying, "I don't want to have to kill this man, but I'll kill him graveyard dead, ma'am."

When the intruder broke through the door, Jackson dropped the phone. A minute later, Jackson was forced to shoot, and the suspect, Billy Riley, 53, was killed. According to the local district attorney's office, Jackson won't be charged with a crime. During the call, the 911 operator told Jackson it was legal for her to defend her home.

I suppose you anti gun freaks would rather she got raped and killed by this intruder.

Gee, what were the odds that this woman would be threatened in her own home?

One in a billion? Looks like she hit the lottery, good thing she had that shotgun.

Nothing from the article you linked to indicates he had any malicious intentions toward her. Why do you claim he intended to rape and kill her. He may just have been looking to raid her refrigerator for all you know. Maybe he was even mistaken about the address and thought he was entering a friend's house.

She shot a man in cold blood without even warning him to leave. Sad how trigger happy some people can be. He might have been someone's father. Now he's dead.

if you were a woman home alone and a man threw a table through a glass door to get inside, you would assume he is trying to raid your refrigerator?

Talk about naive.

 

[Skull Pilot]

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I have a problem with duty to retreat this because retreating to position where your back is against a wall or into another room at the back of your house allows an intruder complete access to your home and you could find yourself trapped while the intruder vandalizes your home.

Do you think a person deserves to die because they are vandalizing property?

define vandalism.

If someone broke into my business and trashed the place, i would be unable to conduct business and therefore unable to make a living. Not to mention the cost to reapr and replace whatever property was stolen or destroyed.

And sorry but If i was trapped in a bathroom with my back against a wall, I am going to assume that a criminal will set my house on fire on the way out.

I am not giving the benefit of the doubt that a "nice" person is breaking into my home for milk and cookies.

So yes anyone forcibly entering the home of another for any reason deserves to be shot

 

[rightwinger]

This is what I heard on the radio - so their is no cite and I'm going from memory.
Not true. He has priors for DUI (4 of them) and they keep saying drug offenses (but only possession of pot). What was found out, he was highly intoxicated after a night of drinking with his sister. She was passed out in his car and suffering from alcohol poisoning. Her name was Pam. Since he was intoxicated he crashed his car into a ditch. No one truly knows what he was doing at that point, whether he was trying to break into the house to call the paramedics, whether he knew or cared she had alcohol poising, whether he even knew where he was.

None of this matters though the woman acted correctly under the circumstances and you still don't know what his intentions were or how he would have reacted when he got in the house and saw an unarmed women (if she had not gun)!

I finally heard the full transcript of the call. He can be heard repeatedly banging on the door. At one point, the dispatcher asks what he is screaming and the woman says "Pam". He had just gotten into an accident and his sister was unconscious in the car. It appears he was severely drunk and was at the house for help and not to rape or maim as previously claimed.
Is is also not clear if he knew someone was in the house at the time and may have been breaking in the house to use the phone.
As much as the gun lobby holds this case up as a success story of a lone woman blowing away an intruder. It seems it may be a case of a homeowner shooting someone who was drunk and looking for help for his sister

I have to question this and honestly, doubt that this is the case.

In the age of cell phones, where every Tom, Gill and Biff has a cell phone, he was breaking in to use a land line?

In either case, the woman was fully and legally justified in protecting her own life.

No doubt she had the right and was instructed by 911 to shoot if necessary. Cell phones are great but not everyone has one, especially indegent drunks. They also don't work in all areas.

There are two possibillities in this case.

1. The guy was drunk with his sister Pam in the car, he crashed the car and Pam was not responding so he used the opportunity to walk to the nearest house to rape and murder anyone in it.

2. The guy was drunk with his sister Pam in the car, he crashed the car and Pam was not responding so he walked to the nearest house for help, pounded on the door and when nobody responded, he broke in to call for help

I choose the latter

 

[WillowTree]

I finally heard the full transcript of the call. He can be heard repeatedly banging on the door. At one point, the dispatcher asks what he is screaming and the woman says "Pam". He had just gotten into an accident and his sister was unconscious in the car. It appears he was severely drunk and was at the house for help and not to rape or maim as previously claimed.
Is is also not clear if he knew someone was in the house at the time and may have been breaking in the house to use the phone.
As much as the gun lobby holds this case up as a success story of a lone woman blowing away an intruder. It seems it may be a case of a homeowner shooting someone who was drunk and looking for help for his sister

I have to question this and honestly, doubt that this is the case.

In the age of cell phones, where every Tom, Gill and Biff has a cell phone, he was breaking in to use a land line?

In either case, the woman was fully and legally justified in protecting her own life.

No doubt she had the right and was instructed by 911 to shoot if necessary. Cell phones are great but not everyone has one, especially indegent drunks. They also don't work in all areas.

There are two possibillities in this case.

1. The guy was drunk with his sister Pam in the car, he crashed the car and Pam was not responding so he used the opportunity to walk to the nearest house to rape and murder anyone in it.

2. The guy was drunk with his sister Pam in the car, he crashed the car and Pam was not responding so he walked to the nearest house for help, pounded on the door and when nobody responded, he broke in to call for help

I choose the latter

it all falls back to personal responsibility, a grown man is the only person who can keep himself from getting so damn drunk he can no longer act rationally. He caused his own death to happen.

 

[Anguille]

Its good to hear you are no longer talking to yourself, but you really should lay off the bottle, you lose a few more braincells you will be a talking monkey.

I got yer back Brother...

Thanks.

Ol Angry is still pissed I wouldn't rep her pal the holocaust denier, seems she can't let it go.

That's a shame.

I'm not pissed at you, xenothug.
I've been having fun with you. Because you are not able to laugh at yourself.

Nice new friend you got there.

 

[Anguille]

I finally heard the full transcript of the call. He can be heard repeatedly banging on the door. At one point, the dispatcher asks what he is screaming and the woman says "Pam". He had just gotten into an accident and his sister was unconscious in the car. It appears he was severely drunk and was at the house for help and not to rape or maim as previously claimed.
Is is also not clear if he knew someone was in the house at the time and may have been breaking in the house to use the phone.
As much as the gun lobby holds this case up as a success story of a lone woman blowing away an intruder. It seems it may be a case of a homeowner shooting someone who was drunk and looking for help for his sister

I have to question this and honestly, doubt that this is the case.

In the age of cell phones, where every Tom, Gill and Biff has a cell phone, he was breaking in to use a land line?

In either case, the woman was fully and legally justified in protecting her own life.

You really think everyone in the US has a cell phone? Perhaps he did have one but was in an area with no signal. The fact that he had just wreaked his car nearby and that his sister was in need of medical help seems to indicate that getting to a phone rather than raping and murdering was what was on his mind when he broke into the house. He was also calling out his sister's name.

The woman in the house was fully within in her legal rights to shoot him, as you said. The sad thing is that if there had been no gun in the house she would not have been able to shoot him and he would still be alive. I'll bet that now, knowing he was breaking in looking for medical help, she feels terrible for having shot him.

I'm as disgusted by drunks as the next person but I don't think they deserve to be shot and killed for being drunk.

This was a tragedy. I don't condemn the woman for what she did. I was once in a similar situation and I remember being terribly frightened and wishing I had a gun. I might have even used it. But then I also would have shot a drunk just looking for a bed to crash in.

I'm not saying whether it was wrong or right for her to have a gun in her house. I'm just pointing out that sometimes having a gun leads to disaster.