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Guess who had free will?So where in Genesis do we have the word "Satan"?Sure. Yahweh called it good and then put Satan right into Eden beside Eve and then cursed the earth in Gen 3.
That aside.
You do not seem to have separated our myths from our beliefs.
Tell us please, does the following seen to you like we do not think matter to be good?
Gnostic Christian Jesus said, "If those who attract you say, 'See, the Kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you.
If they say to you, 'It is under the earth,' then the fish of the sea will precede you.
Rather, the Kingdom of God is inside of you, and it is outside of you.
[Those who] become acquainted with [themselves] will find it; [and when you] become acquainted with yourselves, [you will understand that] it is you who are the sons of the living Father.
But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."
Did the Cathars who built their extremely nice and peaceful community seem to hate the rather beautiful world they lived in before Christianity decimated them with their Inquisition?
Regards
DL
I'll wait...
take your cheep point.
It is not there but Christian dogma says that the talking serpent is Satan, the great deceiver.
Who do you think took over that serpent if not Satan? Or do you think serpents can talk human naturally?
Regards
DL
Adam.
Eve.
The snake,
Welcome to reality.
Now tell me what the Hebrew word Sah-tahn means.
Can you have free will to choose between variables, when you do not know the variables?
A & E are shown to be too stupid to even know they were naked. That is why they did not know to clothe themselves.
That stupidity would apply to all decision, as without the knowledge of good and evil, a knowledge that applies to all things and concepts you can think of, therefore a free will cannot exist. That is why scriptures say their eyes were closed.
You chose to have me look at a Jewish word so listen to this Rabbi explain why A & E did not have the desire required to have a free will. To desire, you have to know the variables and they did not know those.
Welcome to a real reality and not one where serpents talk.
Regards
DL
The word nah-chash does not mean snake, it means "someone who is charming".
The beauty of Judaism is that many people have many opinions on many subjects but there's only one way for one to be kosher.
In the case of the serpent in the garden it is speaking about the human's or even humans 'gazing, or looking (searching) intently'. In Arabic Nachash is 'viper'. The root is to shine. Humans like shiny things.
just a quick google online search says....The serpent was a symbol of evil power and chaos from the underworld as well as a symbol of fertility, life and healing. Nachash, Hebrew for "snake", is also associated with divination, including the verb-form meaning to practice divination or fortune-telling.