GreatestIam
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Guess who had free will?
Adam.
Eve.
The snake,
Welcome to reality.
Now tell me what the Hebrew word Sah-tahn means.
Can you have free will to choose between variables, when you do not know the variables?
A & E are shown to be too stupid to even know they were naked. That is why they did not know to clothe themselves.
That stupidity would apply to all decision, as without the knowledge of good and evil, a knowledge that applies to all things and concepts you can think of, therefore a free will cannot exist. That is why scriptures say their eyes were closed.
You chose to have me look at a Jewish word so listen to this Rabbi explain why A & E did not have the desire required to have a free will. To desire, you have to know the variables and they did not know those.
Welcome to a real reality and not one where serpents talk.
Regards
DL
The word nah-chash does not mean snake, it means "someone who is charming".
The beauty of Judaism is that many people have many opinions on many subjects but there's only one way for one to be kosher.
In the case of the serpent in the garden it is speaking about the human's or even humans 'gazing, or looking (searching) intently'. In Arabic Nachash is 'viper'. The root is to shine. Humans like shiny things.
just a quick google online search says....The serpent was a symbol of evil power and chaos from the underworld as well as a symbol of fertility, life and healing. Nachash, Hebrew for "snake", is also associated with divination, including the verb-form meaning to practice divination or fortune-telling.
Christians have a love/hate relationship with the serpent.
Matthew 10:16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.
Genesis 3 ;3 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made.
Regards
DL
One's inclination to defy God is subtle.
If you read the verses carefully, it was Chava who intellectualized the words of the nachash.
Any who would not defy a genocidal son murdering prick like Yahweh show how much they like an immoral demiurge instead of a moral God.
As to the serpent, Jews see Eden as our place of enlightenment and not the fall that Christianity put into it. This shows respect for the serpent and that is accentuated by Moses, not that he ever existed, who had a serpent headed staff. It was also the emblem for the priestly cast of Levites.
Do you think the Christians or the Jews were right in the interpretation of our elevation or our fall in Eden?
Regards
DL