If you are HONEST, you are AGNOSTIC

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    AGNOSTICISM is about your HONEST perceptions and interpretations of your own experiences. If you cannot see beyond the horizon, you don’t pretend you do.

    Of course, you can gather information from credible sources who have seen something beyond YOUR horizon, but that is tentative information that could be a basis for your belief(s).

    No one credible to me has ANY information about Earth’s origins. We can only theorize based on patterns of evidence from various credible sources. Beyond that ...

    If you are not agnostic, you are playing a make believe game. If so, you have faith in fantasy instead of reality, in my opinion.
     
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    To see proves god is real.
     
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    Do you know who else is honest? Baboons are honest. They have an honest evaluation of their perceptions and experiences.

    Do you know what is wrong with baboons? They lack the higher level ability to conceptualize things beyond, "banana", "water", "sex".

    Just some food for thought to those who have the ability, to be honest with their perceptions and experiences.
     
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    You're Not a True Scotsman. :lol:
     
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    It's all relative. I have little doubt that we too ''lack the higher level ability to conceptualize things''. God is looking down upon on us just like we might look down on an ant hill watching the ants working away, totally oblivious to our presence.
     
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    You see a “god”??
     
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    Sorry to hear your blind :(


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    You do not appear to understand honesty.
    Nothing wrong with being ignorant. Your honesty about it would reflect well on your intelligence as well as emotional security.
     
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    Not really. You can show a painting of cityscape and to a baboon, it's just a jumble of pretty colors.

    We may not be able to conceive of what "God" is or looks like, but we at least can conceive of something outside ourselves, larger than ourselves.

    All baboons and most Democrats are not capable of that.
     
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    noun
    1. 1.
      a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God.

    The definition above is what I found after typing in ''agnostic'' on Google. While that may be technically correct, most don't seem to share that definition. For me, an agnostic is someone who is on the fence between belief in a creator and belief that there is no creator. A believer is someone who ''believes'' that it's likely that there is a creator. An atheist might be described as one who believes that it's unlikely that there is a creator. Of course, many believers claim a creator's existence as fact while many atheists absolutely claim that there is no creator.
     

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