CDZ if you are gun owner who believes in an Assault weapon ban, justify owning your semi auto pistol...

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    The AR-15 is not an assault weapon it is a civilian self defense rifle......and by calling for an assault weapon ban, uninformed Americans are giving the anti gunners the argument they need to ban semi auto pistols. How? They say we need to ban Assault rifles because they can kill a lot of people at one go.

    Leaving aside the fact that knives were used to murder 1,604 people in 2015, and over 1,500 people every single year...the anti gunners will get the AR-15, and then use the exact same argument to get semi auto pistols after the next mass shooting.

    Why?

    This guy murdered 26.....the Virginia Tech shooter murdered 32, with 2 semi auto pistols...the Luby's Cafe shooter murdered 23 people, with 2 semi auto pistols...............

    and having given in to the argument against AR-15s uninformed Americans will have no ground to defend semi auto pistols which can kill just as many people.

    And the anti gunners know this. And then, after they get semi auto pistols...after the next mass shooting where the killer uses several revolvers, they will be taken too....and on and on....one gun, one magazine at a time.....

    So...with the above being the case....if you support an assault weapon ban as a gun owner, how do you justify your Glock, Sig Saur, Smith and Wesson.....?
     
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    Because you can put a 20x scope on a pistol and it has less rounds for mass destruction.
    Lower the chances of mass death even though it can still be used to kill many but any small step for American's safety is worth the small price of freedom being taken from banning BIG GUNS.
     
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    The Virginia Tech shooter...murdered 32....2 pistols.

    Luby's cafe...murdered 23....2 pistols.....

    The same argument that is used against civilian self defense rifles will be used against semi auto pistols first, then revolvers, then bolt action rifles, and finally, pump action shotguns....
     
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    and if those same shooters had bigger more effective guns?
    those numbers would most likely be higher.
    Lower the efficiency of the weapon lives would be saved over time as the big guns grow old.
     
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    Not really.....

    Texas church shooter....26.

    Nice, France...rental truck...89 murdered, 450 injured.

    Virginia tech, two pistols...32 murdered 17 wounded.

    If you allow them to take civilian rifles under the dumb argument that they can kill a lot of people, then you might as well hand over our Glock, Sig, M&P., Brettea.....because those are next. And having already said that the argument is valid.....you will have no argument to make when they do....
     
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    You wanna make a small step for American safety? Kill the violent bad guys. Don't put them back on the street, ever.

    Leave the real people alone.
     
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    Mass shootings in 2016...total of 6. Number murdered in all 6 combined....71.

    Nice, France, rental truck, one incident....murdered 89, injured over 450.

    Knives in 2015 were used to murder 1,604 people.....and every single year murder over 1,500.

    Seems to me the least killy of the killing tools is the gun in mass public shootings....
     
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    saying that Rifles and Pistols are both comparatively the same just because they both can kill is wrong, one IS more effective at the job of killing than the other a pistol can still accomplish the needs of most that want to defend themselves.
    The slippery slope argument is false since banning a AR does not lead to a ban on pistols since both are entirely different despite both being guns.
     
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    Wrong.....the only justification for banning these rifles that anti gunners are using is they can kill a lot of people...I have shown you that pistols have killed more people in mass public shooting events....so the same argument will apply....they will come back for those pistols, and you won't have an argument to stop them....
     
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    Those weapons have been used to kill more people simply because they are more available not because they are just as efficient.
    Again a pistol and a AR are not used for the same job despite both being guns.
     

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