If universal health care is so great...

[JakeStarkey]

Bern, your opinion is just that, only your opinion. In fact, no question exists constitutionally or ethically that the Constitution empowers HC reform.

 

[Bern80]

Bern, your opinion is just that, only your opinion. In fact, no question exists constitutionally or ethically that the Constitution empowers HC reform.

There you go chaning the rules because you got nothing weasel. No one said government doesn't have the authoroty to reform the system. After all reform could mean that government decided it was going to regulate the industry LESS than it does now. The argument was whether or not they have the constitutional authority to provide health care. Please try in the future to at least not make your weasely antics quite so transparent.

And you keep saying it's so simple. So I ask again point out what part of the constitution would grant the authority to do that. Citing article VI makes zero sense. It has nothing to do with what the fed can or can't do.

 

[Yukon.]

The constipational argument with respect to Health Care reform is a "white-elephant". If every government program had to be included in the constipation there wouldn't be any.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Stay on track, please, bern. Who said anything about the Government "providing health care." Stupid reactionary who knee jerks instead of really thinking!!

However, the government does provide medical assistance through VA, through DoD, through many other programs. Of course, it can provide health care, imbecile.

Yes, the government has the constitutional authority to reform the health insurance industry, and no one has shown one compelling constitutional reason it can't.

 

[Yukon.]

Increase the tax on gasoline, cigarettes, and booze. Universal health care will then be paid by the people as it is in every other western democracy. When are you people going to get your heads out of the sand ?

 

[Big Fitz]

So, in your backwards totalitarian mind, forcing people to buy a service provided by a private industry, under threat of fine and imprisonment, is fine because it's for the general welfare of the public. I bet our founding fathers would be really proud.

Did you know that "Gullible" isn't in the dictionary?

And for the definition of "Redundant" it says "See Redundant".

thanks Jeremy. Good to see I've ignored him still for good reasons. Terminal Stupidity can be contagious if we expose ourselves to it too long.

What dictionary do you use?

Definitions of gullible (adj)
gul·li·ble [ gúlləb'l ]
easily duped: tending to trust and believe people, and therefore easily tricked or deceived
Synonyms: naive, susceptible, innocent, trusting, credulous, accepting
See full definition · Encarta World English Dictionary

Definitions of redundant (adj)
re·dun·dant [ ri dúndənt ]
superfluous: not or no longer needed or wanted
repeating meaning: with the same meaning as a word used elsewhere in a passage and without a rhetorical purpose
backup: fitted as a backup component or system
Synonyms: laid off, let go, out of work, out of a job, jobless, fired, dismissed, terminated
See full definition · Encarta World English Dictionary

ROFLMAO!!!!!

For an encore, Gullible is written on the ceiling above you.

 

[Big Fitz]

Man, I can't wait until the Mexicans take over America....I'm soooo going to jump the northern border and hang out in front of Home Depot in Winnipeg!

You'll freeze your ding ding off come winter. Travel south to the warmer climbs of Minnesota then.

 

[Big Fitz]

Why? Because it would take a 2/3 approval vote of the house and senate which is impossible with the polarization in congress. Then it would have to go before all the state legislatures which would take about 5 years. Then if it was approved, a healthcare bill would have to be passed. By the time anything got into law most of the country would be without healthcare.

The wisdom of our founders in action. Slow STUPID law to a crawl. Too bad the fabian progressives have figured this out and are playing long game too to radically transform us into a fascist police state with them on top.

HEY!! The Dude is so self-centered, I'm sure he is very picky about people stealing his favorite slogans. "Fabian" is his and his alone. I'm sure you could find more up-to-date philosophers espousing the same doctrine and commandeer that as your own special reference.

Look up Fabian Socialism. It'll help.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The wisdom of our founders in action. Slow STUPID law to a crawl. Too bad the fabian progressives have figured this out and are playing long game too to radically transform us into a fascist police state with them on top.

HEY!! The Dude is so self-centered, I'm sure he is very picky about people stealing his favorite slogans. "Fabian" is his and his alone. I'm sure you could find more up-to-date philosophers espousing the same doctrine and commandeer that as your own special reference.

Look up Fabian Socialism. It'll help.

As if (1) Fitz knows what it is, and (2) American government is socialist.

He is too funny.

 

[Yukon.]

Portage and Main...coldest corner in God's world.

 

[Bern80]

The constipational argument with respect to Health Care reform is a "white-elephant". If every government program had to be included in the constipation there wouldn't be any.

Another who doesn't get the constitution. Every government program does not have to be specifically outlined in the constitution in order for government to have the authority to do it.

 

[Immanuel]

...then why doesn't the government go through the process to amend the constitution to state that "The government shall make no law prohibiting the protection and providing thereof of health and care services for the American people." or something to that extent. I do not support UHC simply because the founding documents do not claim it to be legal, it demands an amendment itself for it to be legal. until then the government, especially the congress that is pushing for this, are violating their oath and are damn near treasonous in my humble opinion. Thank you.

Um, because getting an Amendment to the Constitution is not all that easy. Just ask the supporters of the Equal Rights Amendment.

Equal Rights Amendment

The Equal Rights Amendment, first proposed in 1923 to affirm that women and men have equal rights under the law, is still not part of the U.S. Constitution.

The ERA was passed out of Congress in 1972 and has been ratified by 35 of the necessary 38 states. When three more states vote yes, it is possible that the ERA could become the 28th Amendment. The ERA could also be ratified by restarting the traditional process of passage by a two-thirds majority in the Senate and the House of Representatives, followed by ratification by legislatures in three-quarters (38) of the 50 states.

Wow!! 87 years young and still kickin'

Immie

At some point someone needs to call for a Constitutional Convention, which would be quicker, and could resolve ALL the myriad issues that seriously need amendments.

Not now!

We can't have Pelosi and Reid writing our next constitution!

Immie

 

[Oddball]

Man, I can't wait until the Mexicans take over America....I'm soooo going to jump the northern border and hang out in front of Home Depot in Winnipeg!

LOL. We can start a launching point here in Fargo. With the thousands of Canadians that drive to Fargo to shop we can just hitch a ride in one of their Old Navy bags. piece o' cake.

I'll gladly charter a bus for you to go now. (But my friends and relatives in Canada don't really take kindly to right-wing ideologues from the U.S., so fair warning. I won't pay for a return trip.) Oh, and by the way, Canada has strict gun control laws (and penalties) that you might want to check out first.

OK, fine....Can we all chip in and send people like you to China, North Korea, China or Venezuela?

You even get to choose.

 

[JakeStarkey]

But you, Dud, better start packing, cause, sonny, you are in the minority! I know, it must stink to be you.

 

[Big Fitz]

LOL. We can start a launching point here in Fargo. With the thousands of Canadians that drive to Fargo to shop we can just hitch a ride in one of their Old Navy bags. piece o' cake.

I'll gladly charter a bus for you to go now. (But my friends and relatives in Canada don't really take kindly to right-wing ideologues from the U.S., so fair warning. I won't pay for a return trip.) Oh, and by the way, Canada has strict gun control laws (and penalties) that you might want to check out first.

OK, fine....Can we all chip in and send people like you to China, North Korea, China or Venezuela?

You even get to choose.

I'm sure the Coyotes would be happy to make money on their shipping containers going back to Mexico et all instead of deadheading. I hear we can pack 40-60 in to one.

 

[MaggieMae]

Did you know that "Gullible" isn't in the dictionary?

And for the definition of "Redundant" it says "See Redundant".

thanks Jeremy. Good to see I've ignored him still for good reasons. Terminal Stupidity can be contagious if we expose ourselves to it too long.

What dictionary do you use?

Definitions of gullible (adj)
gul·li·ble [ gúlləb'l ]
easily duped: tending to trust and believe people, and therefore easily tricked or deceived
Synonyms: naive, susceptible, innocent, trusting, credulous, accepting
See full definition · Encarta World English Dictionary

Definitions of redundant (adj)
re·dun·dant [ ri dúndənt ]
superfluous: not or no longer needed or wanted
repeating meaning: with the same meaning as a word used elsewhere in a passage and without a rhetorical purpose
backup: fitted as a backup component or system
Synonyms: laid off, let go, out of work, out of a job, jobless, fired, dismissed, terminated
See full definition · Encarta World English Dictionary

ROFLMAO!!!!!

For an encore, Gullible is written on the ceiling above you.

I can only assume this is some sort of private joke written in conservatese. I refer to your first comment that came from out of nowhere that "gullibility isn't in the dictionary." I know you think you've got the greatest mind in the world, but mere mortals can't yet read minds, including yours O Great One.

 

[MaggieMae]

The wisdom of our founders in action. Slow STUPID law to a crawl. Too bad the fabian progressives have figured this out and are playing long game too to radically transform us into a fascist police state with them on top.

HEY!! The Dude is so self-centered, I'm sure he is very picky about people stealing his favorite slogans. "Fabian" is his and his alone. I'm sure you could find more up-to-date philosophers espousing the same doctrine and commandeer that as your own special reference.

Look up Fabian Socialism. It'll help.

I know what it is, asshole. Ergo, my point.

 

[MaggieMae]

Um, because getting an Amendment to the Constitution is not all that easy. Just ask the supporters of the Equal Rights Amendment.

Equal Rights Amendment



Wow!! 87 years young and still kickin'

Immie

At some point someone needs to call for a Constitutional Convention, which would be quicker, and could resolve ALL the myriad issues that seriously need amendments.

Not now!

We can't have Pelosi and Reid writing our next constitution!

Immie

What makes you think they would? A majority of the states would agree to a Constitutional Convention, and Congress would merely be responsible for the arrangements.

Convention to propose amendments to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Because no Article V convention has ever been convened, there are many unanswered questions about how such a convention would function in practice. One major question is whether the scope of the convention's subject matter could be limited. The consensus is that Congress probably does not have the power to limit a convention, because the language of Article V leaves no discretion to Congress, merely stating that Congress "shall" call a convention when the proper number of state applications have been received.

 

[MaggieMae]

LOL. We can start a launching point here in Fargo. With the thousands of Canadians that drive to Fargo to shop we can just hitch a ride in one of their Old Navy bags. piece o' cake.

I'll gladly charter a bus for you to go now. (But my friends and relatives in Canada don't really take kindly to right-wing ideologues from the U.S., so fair warning. I won't pay for a return trip.) Oh, and by the way, Canada has strict gun control laws (and penalties) that you might want to check out first.

OK, fine....Can we all chip in and send people like you to China, North Korea, China or Venezuela?

You even get to choose.

The difference is that I have no desire to leave. I love my country, and I'll stay and defend it against usurpers like you who USE the Constitution as a weapon until the day I die.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Maggie Mae, you don't have to sweat Dude and Zander and Big Fitz, cause they are small potatoes. All balls and no stick. As we used to say, uh, in the pool hall.