If "Scooter" gets indicted....

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    I predict the Left will use the indictment to say it is "proof that the Administration lied" to get us into Iraq. They'll proclaim it loudly because of one piece of information used in a speech, the "sixteen words" will make this all a "hoax perpetrated on the US" by the Administration. They'll ignore the fact that there was other information used and those sixteen words will get all the air time....

    Let's watch and see if I am right.
     
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    Well it happened. so lets see the reaction.
     
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    Avatar Im confused about this...Is Libby being charged with lying to reporters?? And how come this case was supposed to be about purposefully outing a CIA agent but is now about anything but that???
     
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    So what is this really about??
     
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    The Left's theory in a nutshell: The cheif of staff to the vice president is accused of lying about a crime that was never committed but he lied about anyway, so the President is about to be impeached or forced to resign.


    It doesn't make much sense to me either, but in all fairnes, very little that comes out of their mouths ever does.
     
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    Links at both sites:

    Considering it's against the law, perjury does matter. It should have caused more than Clinton being impeached and losing his law license for 5 years, he should have been removed from office.

    Here's how the "Charges" came to be, there is a lot more. Arrogance just seems to grow in DC:

    http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/retro_cialeak102805.html

    I have to agree with Austin Bay:

    http://austinbay.net/blog/?p=661

     
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    ok....in order to charge someone with obstruction of justice and perjury.....then one would have to know the truth......if one knows the truth and does not charge anyone with outing a secrete CIA operative, which is what the investigation was all about....then it stand to reason that.....no one committed the crime, outing a secrete CIA operative, that was alleged.

    so if not for the investigation into a crime that they knew by their own admission could not have happened because they knew the truth (the special prosector said she was not covert during his press confernce) there would have been no perjury or obstuction of justice charge.....

    in plame english.....entrapment....
     
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    I might be wrong here, perhaps Avatar or WJ can help out. The very fact that there was an investigation and a grand jury was called, means that if one testifies and may have lied, then one may be guilty of perjury, in spite of the fact that the original charges cannot be proven.
     
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    You nailed it!
    The dems wanted their piece of flesh after their hero got impeached. This is all the could bleed out of the situation. Do ANYTHING to bring someone before a grand jury and if you can't get any biggies to fall, nail the ones who don't know how to play the grand jury game well enough to walk. This should be a non-story
     
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    Yeah perjury can occur even if the original crime did not.

    I am not so sure about obstruction of justice. I mean how does one obstruct justice with no crime..
     

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