If Jesus couldn't keep HIMSELF out of trouble...

[AllieBaba]

I'm not sure anyone really cares, wonker.

 

[AllieBaba]

No offense.

 

[Steelplate]

A socialist ? WTH are you talking about...? I have yet to find scripture where JC placed any faith in Rome or any government of any kind ... your confusing compassion with liberalism and they have nothing in common.. JC preached Free Will to do good or bad... its your choice.. he never said it was our responsibility to take care of people perfectly capable of taking care of themselves (Socialism)... He preached individual charity for the poor, widows and orphans... not governmental handouts for the lazy ...

No we're not. You are confusing Christ's message with your own political Ideology.

Luke 6:30...If someone takes your coat... offer him your shirt too(close enough without googling).

Matthew 25: 31-46....31“When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his throne in heavenly glory. 32All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

34“Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

37“Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

40“The King will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.’

41“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

44“They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

45“He will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

46“Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

Those aren't "suggestions" they are demands of a Christian society.

Notice... in either of these passages does it say "people who can or cannot do for themselves", does it?

You guys need to stop cherry picking the bible and focusing only on "other people's sins" when there is plenty to go around for all of us.

"You are confusing Christ's message with your own political Ideology."

That's exactly what you're doing. Jesus commands us all to be charitable. He did not command us to request the government force us to be charitable.

It's part of the whole "free will" thing. A gift freely given is priceless. A gift given at gunpoint is worthless.

No, I am not. That's what YOU guys do... to homosexuals, with abortion(which I don't condone), to poor people, to people of different religions... it's so deeply embedded in your politics, that they are inseparable for MOST of you.

I've shown scripture after scripture that your way is not of Christ... but you want to be a "christian nation".

I'll tell you what... Show me a passage that tells people to amass incredible wealth and hoard it...that I cannot refute with a different passage, and I will convert to Tea Party politics.

 

[Caroljo]

No we're not. You are confusing Christ's message with your own political Ideology.

Luke 6:30...If someone takes your coat... offer him your shirt too(close enough without googling).

Matthew 25: 31-46....31“When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his throne in heavenly glory. 32All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

34“Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

37“Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

40“The King will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.’

41“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

44“They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

45“He will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

46“Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

Those aren't "suggestions" they are demands of a Christian society.

Notice... in either of these passages does it say "people who can or cannot do for themselves", does it?

You guys need to stop cherry picking the bible and focusing only on "other people's sins" when there is plenty to go around for all of us.

"You are confusing Christ's message with your own political Ideology."

That's exactly what you're doing. Jesus commands us all to be charitable. He did not command us to request the government force us to be charitable.

It's part of the whole "free will" thing. A gift freely given is priceless. A gift given at gunpoint is worthless.

No, I am not. That's what YOU guys do... to homosexuals, with abortion(which I don't condone), to poor people, to people of different religions... it's so deeply embedded in your politics, that they are inseparable for MOST of you.

I've shown scripture after scripture that your way is not of Christ... but you want to be a "christian nation".

I'll tell you what... Show me a passage that tells people to amass incredible wealth and hoard it...that I cannot refute with a different passage, and I will convert to Tea Party politics.

Being wealthy is NOT a sin.

BibleGateway - Quick search: wealth

And of course the Bible tells us to help the poor.....NOT to help the ones that don't want to help themselves.

 

[Steelplate]

"You are confusing Christ's message with your own political Ideology."

That's exactly what you're doing. Jesus commands us all to be charitable. He did not command us to request the government force us to be charitable.

It's part of the whole "free will" thing. A gift freely given is priceless. A gift given at gunpoint is worthless.

No, I am not. That's what YOU guys do... to homosexuals, with abortion(which I don't condone), to poor people, to people of different religions... it's so deeply embedded in your politics, that they are inseparable for MOST of you.

I've shown scripture after scripture that your way is not of Christ... but you want to be a "christian nation".

I'll tell you what... Show me a passage that tells people to amass incredible wealth and hoard it...that I cannot refute with a different passage, and I will convert to Tea Party politics.

Being wealthy is NOT a sin.

BibleGateway - Quick search: wealth

And of course the Bible tells us to help the poor.....NOT to help the ones that don't want to help themselves.

Where does it say not to help those who don't want to help themselves?... I mean.. philosophically, I agree with you... but show me the scripture. The typical problem with your side is that you think every poor person simply doesn't want to help themselves. When in fact... the number of people that REALLY are duping the system are very few... but in the Conservative eye... that doesn't matter. Even if there are only a few doing this... you're willing to screw the rest over so that the few don't get something for nothing.

 

[Caroljo]

No, I am not. That's what YOU guys do... to homosexuals, with abortion(which I don't condone), to poor people, to people of different religions... it's so deeply embedded in your politics, that they are inseparable for MOST of you.

I've shown scripture after scripture that your way is not of Christ... but you want to be a "christian nation".

I'll tell you what... Show me a passage that tells people to amass incredible wealth and hoard it...that I cannot refute with a different passage, and I will convert to Tea Party politics.

Being wealthy is NOT a sin.

BibleGateway - Quick search: wealth

And of course the Bible tells us to help the poor.....NOT to help the ones that don't want to help themselves.

Where does it say not to help those who don't want to help themselves?... I mean.. philosophically, I agree with you... but show me the scripture. The typical problem with your side is that you think every poor person simply doesn't want to help themselves. When in fact... the number of people that REALLY are duping the system are very few... but in the Conservative eye... that doesn't matter. Even if there are only a few doing this... you're willing to screw the rest over so that the few don't get something for nothing.

As far as i know, it doesn't. He talks only about helping the poor. And you're completely wrong that Christians think every poor person doesn't want to help themselves. But, there are several passages in the Bible that talks about being "slothful" and "idle"....

Proverbs 6:6-11;10:4,5,26;12:9,24,27;13:4;14:23; - Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider - Bible Gateway

BibleGateway - Quick search: idleness

Proverbs 31:27 NIV - She watches over the affairs of her - Bible Gateway

So it's wrong to be "idle", but yet he tells us to help the poor...so, it's pretty clear that we're not to help others that sit on their butts waiting for help, but we are to help the truly poor.

 

[Sky Dancer]

What's interesting to me about Christianity, is how both positions are supported by believers.

That Jesus enjoined his followers to help the poor, and that getting rich is a Christian virtue.

 

[emilynghiem]

Where does it say not to help those who don't want to help themselves?... I mean.. philosophically, I agree with you... but show me the scripture. The typical problem with your side is that you think every poor person simply doesn't want to help themselves.

Dear SP: I live and volunteer in a low-income African American historic district, where the Democrat leadership has basically sold out the community, victimizing the victims, punishing them for being poor and unable to defend themselves.

However, I have found that the root of the victim blame mentality is equally self-induced and perpetuated in a vicious cycle. I have put together plans to break out of this victim/poverty mentality, but it is not easy! If you are not careful you get blamed for either enabling victim mentality or for blaming the victims for their own suffering! What a mess!

Where I would say it relates to the Bible,
where people don't FORGIVE they stay stuck in victim mentality.

And the Bible does say (Matthew 6:14-15 I think?) that if you do not forgive
others, God will not forgive you.

The sin of unforgiveness, the mutual fingerpointing, keeps us stuck in the muck.

When in fact... the number of people that REALLY are duping the system are very few... but in the Conservative eye... that doesn't matter. Even if there are only a few doing this... you're willing to screw the rest over so that the few don't get something for nothing.

There is some truth to what you say, where people are being unforgiving they paint the whole picture with a negative brush and blame the victims. But also, where you paint all Conservatives/Tea party with a broad brush, you do the same.

There are ways to break the cycle of dependence by teaching financial sustainability,
but we can't even look at those solutions if people are too busy with fingerpointing
and painting each other as "whole groups" with broad brushes.

We would all need to distinguish WHICH areas are abusive and WHICH approaches are productive in order to solve the problems.

Again by first forgiving one another, opening our hearts and minds that are blocked by mutual blame and division, then maybe God will help give us the wisdom we need!

 

[emilynghiem]

What's interesting to me about Christianity, is how both positions are supported by believers.

That Jesus enjoined his followers to help the poor, and that getting rich is a Christian virtue.

Who says it is either or?

Wasn't the point to teach people "how to fish?"

Microlending and business training is a good example.
Mohammad Yunus won the 2006 Nobel Prize for the Grameen Banking program
which breaks the cycle of poverty WITHOUT relying on handouts.

Fair trade and cooperative economics takes the best of free enterprise ANd socialistic/egalitarian concepts of equality for workers as their own managers.

So there is a way to have both.

The "scarcity" mentality is what fuels false fears and unfair competition.

The "abundance" mentality is about creating more by investing more.

How this applies to religion and politics:

Competition based on fear and scarcity means competing
to make the other person wrong, since you can't both be right.
This creates conflict war and waste, and maybe benefits those
who PROFIT off problems (like lawyers or politicians we love so much!)

Abundance mentality means helping invest in everyone to succeed
so this builds greater prosperity and health for everyone.
How can we work together most effectively to make EVERYTHING right.

If I were to advise people in churches, charities and business,
I would recommend running charities as business investments
so you learn how to grow income and be financially self-sustaining.

I believe it will take a combination of business education and
charitable outreach in education to break the cycle of poverty
as well as abuse, crime and govt waste that follows it. Thanks.

 

[Sky Dancer]

What's interesting to me about Christianity, is how both positions are supported by believers.

That Jesus enjoined his followers to help the poor, and that getting rich is a Christian virtue.

Who says it is either or?

Wasn't the point to teach people "how to fish?"

Microlending and business training is a good example.
Mohammad Yunus won the 2006 Nobel Prize for the Grameen Banking program
which breaks the cycle of poverty WITHOUT relying on handouts.

Fair trade and cooperative economics takes the best of free enterprise ANd socialistic/egalitarian concepts of equality for workers as their own managers.

So there is a way to have both.

The "scarcity" mentality is what fuels false fears and unfair competition.

The "abundance" mentality is about creating more by investing more.

How this applies to religion and politics:

Competition based on fear and scarcity means competing
to make the other person wrong, since you can't both be right.
This creates conflict war and waste, and maybe benefits those
who PROFIT off problems (like lawyers or politicians we love so much!)

Abundance mentality means helping invest in everyone to succeed
so this builds greater prosperity and health for everyone.
How can we work together most effectively to make EVERYTHING right.

If I were to advise people in churches, charities and business,
I would recommend running charities as business investments
so you learn how to grow income and be financially self-sustaining.

I believe it will take a combination of business education and
charitable outreach in education to break the cycle of poverty
as well as abuse, crime and govt waste that follows it. Thanks.

I agree with you. It isn't one or the other, it's both. My point is that scripture can be taken in more than one way. That's why we can have Christian liberals and Christian conservatives.

 

[Steelplate]

Where does it say not to help those who don't want to help themselves?... I mean.. philosophically, I agree with you... but show me the scripture. The typical problem with your side is that you think every poor person simply doesn't want to help themselves.

Dear SP: I live and volunteer in a low-income African American historic district, where the Democrat leadership has basically sold out the community, victimizing the victims, punishing them for being poor and unable to defend themselves.

However, I have found that the root of the victim blame mentality is equally self-induced and perpetuated in a vicious cycle. I have put together plans to break out of this victim/poverty mentality, but it is not easy! If you are not careful you get blamed for either enabling victim mentality or for blaming the victims for their own suffering! What a mess!

Where I would say it relates to the Bible,
where people don't FORGIVE they stay stuck in victim mentality.

And the Bible does say (Matthew 6:14-15 I think?) that if you do not forgive
others, God will not forgive you.

The sin of unforgiveness, the mutual fingerpointing, keeps us stuck in the muck.

When in fact... the number of people that REALLY are duping the system are very few... but in the Conservative eye... that doesn't matter. Even if there are only a few doing this... you're willing to screw the rest over so that the few don't get something for nothing.

There is some truth to what you say, where people are being unforgiving they paint the whole picture with a negative brush and blame the victims. But also, where you paint all Conservatives/Tea party with a broad brush, you do the same.

There are ways to break the cycle of dependence by teaching financial sustainability,
but we can't even look at those solutions if people are too busy with fingerpointing
and painting each other as "whole groups" with broad brushes.

We would all need to distinguish WHICH areas are abusive and WHICH approaches are productive in order to solve the problems.

Again by first forgiving one another, opening our hearts and minds that are blocked by mutual blame and division, then maybe God will help give us the wisdom we need!

There is truth in your post. however, by an extremely large margin, I see this "they don't want to work", "they want to do nothing and live off our taxes", etc.. mentality ad nauseum from the Tea Party. IF there are any of the Tea Party out there that doesn't think that way... I apologize.

I'm sorry. I don't subscribe to the Tea Party philosophy. I don't believe in their absolutism, their unreasonableness and their hypocrisy.

Finally... I don't hate them. I don't hate anyone. But I certainly see hatred in their ideas about progressives such as myself and others like me, and may God forgive me, sometimes I respond in kind. I'm never happy about it when I do.. but I am only human.

Someday, I'll leave my troubles in the graveyard. Sometimes that sounds nice.

 

[Cecilie1200]

god made him do it. It was part of the script and jesus knew it was.

God doesn't make anyone do anything, ass munch. Judas did what he did out of his own free will, the same way you're making a public idiot out of yourself out of your own free will. No one to blame but yourself.

While I agree that God doesn't make anyone do anything, and that Judas did what he did out of his own free will. I however, am not sure that it wasn't choreographed between Judas and Jesus.

The Gospel of Judas(found in 1970) describes a very different Judas than is portrayed in our bible. Once again... our bible was a "voted on" affair by men in the Council of Nicaea.

it wouldn't be the first time that they got something wrong. Mary Magdalene, up until very recently was portrayed as a prostitute, when in truth.. she was a trusted member of the group and may have been an apostle herself.

Here's a little something on the "Gospel of Judas"....

The Lost Gospel of Judas Iscariot? : NPR

Yeah.. i know... it's NPR... but there are plenty of other links out there.

The ability of people to make shit up doesn't make it valid or meaningful. If you're going to discuss Christianity and what it teaches, then you're going to have to work with accepted Christian gospel and doctrine, not a fiction book you read somewhere and think would make a more interesting debate.

I cannot imagine what "shocking significance" it is supposed to have that people decided what was and wasn't valid to their beliefs, given that ALL beliefs are decided on by the people who believe them.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Good question.

There are many destinct persons that make up the one God. He could not reveal himself in his full glory,i believe that is why he revealed himself in many forms. The bible say's seven spirits make up God.

With a close study we can see that he revealed himself as the Angel of the LORD,the son of God,and the Holy spirit. Some people don't believe he is God they believe he was the actual son of God. But this is for the individual reader to decide for himself. The key is believing and trusting in the son of God.

You are just babbling mindlessly at this point.

Really ,Well who in speaking from the burning bush ?

Exo 3:2 And the Angel of Jehovah appeared to him in a flame of fire, out of the midst of a thorn bush. And he looked. And behold! The thorn bush burned with fire! And the thorn bush was not burned up.
Exo 3:3 And Moses said, I will now turn aside and see this great sight, why the thorn bush is not burned up.
Exo 3:4 And Jehovah saw that he had turned aside to see. God called to him out of the midst of the thorn bush, and said, Moses! Moses! And he said, Here I am.

Babbling no,i do sometimes stutter.

Um, since your quote just TOLD you who was speaking from the burning bush, I have to wonder why you're asking ME.

 

[Sky Dancer]

God doesn't make anyone do anything, ass munch. Judas did what he did out of his own free will, the same way you're making a public idiot out of yourself out of your own free will. No one to blame but yourself.

While I agree that God doesn't make anyone do anything, and that Judas did what he did out of his own free will. I however, am not sure that it wasn't choreographed between Judas and Jesus.

The Gospel of Judas(found in 1970) describes a very different Judas than is portrayed in our bible. Once again... our bible was a "voted on" affair by men in the Council of Nicaea.

it wouldn't be the first time that they got something wrong. Mary Magdalene, up until very recently was portrayed as a prostitute, when in truth.. she was a trusted member of the group and may have been an apostle herself.

Here's a little something on the "Gospel of Judas"....

The Lost Gospel of Judas Iscariot? : NPR

Yeah.. i know... it's NPR... but there are plenty of other links out there.

The ability of people to make shit up doesn't make it valid or meaningful. If you're going to discuss Christianity and what it teaches, then you're going to have to work with accepted Christian gospel and doctrine, not a fiction book you read somewhere and think would make a more interesting debate.

I cannot imagine what "shocking significance" it is supposed to have that people decided what was and wasn't valid to their beliefs, given that ALL beliefs are decided on by the people who believe them.

The Gospel of Thomas, are The Gospel of Mary Magdalene are part of the Gnostic Gospels. They exist as historical truths, not fiction.

Although, some say the entire Bible is fiction. It depends on how you look at it. Certainly, the Bible has been written in many different languages and is interpreted in many ways.

 

[Cecilie1200]

if Jesus was God.....when he prayed.....who was he praying too?....

God the Father, the part of the Godhead that stayed in Heaven.

Why is this story so damned difficult for you people to remember? It's not like it's an obscure one that never gets talked about, or anything.

your saying God was praying to a part of himself?.....GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK.....there is supposed to be ONE God....as such that one god would not be praying to himself or a part of himself....Jesus was not "God"......he was another distinct Being sent here by that "God" to do what he was supposed to do....for someone who is telling people off because they have not read the Bible......you sure as hell sound just as stupid as anyone here.....including me....

I didn't say He was praying. That was YOUR choice of words. He was talking to God the Father. If you define "praying" as "talking to God", then I suppose you can say He was praying, but I frankly think you're way too hung up on semantics at this point.

Who ever said there WASN'T one God? I didn't. Your imaginative difficulties and restrictions are not my problem or His, but I think we would both appreciate it if you would stop trying to impose your limitations on others as some objective standard of reality.

Speaking of sounding stupid, "I can't understand that, therefore it's not real, and if you believe it, then you're stupid for not agreeing with my worldview" pretty much defines that word in my book.

 

[Sky Dancer]

If God is a trinity, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, then it's true that one part of God prays to another.

The Son prayed to the Father.

 

[Steelplate]

While I agree that God doesn't make anyone do anything, and that Judas did what he did out of his own free will. I however, am not sure that it wasn't choreographed between Judas and Jesus.

The Gospel of Judas(found in 1970) describes a very different Judas than is portrayed in our bible. Once again... our bible was a "voted on" affair by men in the Council of Nicaea.

it wouldn't be the first time that they got something wrong. Mary Magdalene, up until very recently was portrayed as a prostitute, when in truth.. she was a trusted member of the group and may have been an apostle herself.

Here's a little something on the "Gospel of Judas"....

The Lost Gospel of Judas Iscariot? : NPR

Yeah.. i know... it's NPR... but there are plenty of other links out there.

The ability of people to make shit up doesn't make it valid or meaningful. If you're going to discuss Christianity and what it teaches, then you're going to have to work with accepted Christian gospel and doctrine, not a fiction book you read somewhere and think would make a more interesting debate.

I cannot imagine what "shocking significance" it is supposed to have that people decided what was and wasn't valid to their beliefs, given that ALL beliefs are decided on by the people who believe them.

The Gospel of Thomas, are The Gospel of Mary Magdalene are part of the Gnostic Gospels. They exist as historical truths, not fiction.

Although, some say the entire Bible is fiction. It depends on how you look at it. Certainly, the Bible has been written in many different languages and is interpreted in many ways.

That's just it sky...

While I don't believe that the entire bible is fiction, I do believe that the Council of Nicaea may have kept the books of the bible that fit their culture and scrapped the rest. i am not saying that went down that way... but it may have been. The thing is.... if there are all these other Gospels that were banned from the bible, who's to say we are following a true path?

 

[Sky Dancer]

The following are writings by Gnostics of the second century according to some scholars, although some others dispute this classification for writings such as the Gospel of Thomas.


Gnostic: The Gospel of Thomas
Gnostic: The Secret Book of James
Gnostic: Basilides
Gnostic: Naassene Fragment
Gnostic: Gospel of Mary
Gnostic: Dialogue of the Savior
Gnostic: Gospel of the Savior
Gnostic: Marcion
Gnostic: Epiphanes
Gnostic: Ophite Diagrams
Gnostic: Ptolemy
Gnostic: Gospel of Truth
Gnostic: Excerpts of Theodotus
Gnostic: Heracleon
Gnostic: Acts of Peter
Gnostic: Acts of Thomas

All of the above documents and more are presented on the Early Christian Writings web site.

 

[Cecilie1200]

It might hurt your chances if you were to apply to join a mercenary unit.

Duh, dimwit. Since she's unwilling to kill people, she's not very likely to be making that application, now is she? Irrelevant much?

Dear lord, do you EVER say anything that isn't asinine?

Oh goody, another shit wit who has no idea how to apply an analogy.

First of all, you have no clue what an analogy IS, clearly. Second of all, even if what you had said qualified as an analogy (which it doesn't), that doesn't make it any less frigging irrelevant.

Perhaps you could explain to us all, oh wise one, what the bloody hell "mercenary units" have to do with the topic of this thread, much less to do with the specific post it was putatively in response to. You say, "Jesus can't help you, because He couldn't help Himself, otherwise He wouldn't have been crucified". Avatar responds with, "Being unwilling to use a power does not mean you don't have that power. I don't want to kill people, but that doesn't mean I don't have the ability to." And then you tell her she'll have trouble joining a mercenary unit?!

If you can even BEGIN to tell us even a shred of linear sense or conversational flow that exists in that worthless response, let alone how it constitutes an "analogy" or how throwing out the word "analogy" makes your post any less goddamned stupid and meaningless, I will . . . I don't even know. Probably drop dead of a heart attack from the shock.

Moron.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Both those verses sound like they're describing a guy who's just depressed.

Maybe He was foreseeing your birth and wondering if it meant that mankind wasn't worth saving, after all. God knows, your existence makes ME wonder that sometimes.

Wow. Skipping your thorazine much??

I have to tell you, this series of tantrum-ettes is only a pathetic shadow of what I've seen you post in the past. You need to up your game, girlie, or I'll have to put you on ignore.

As it now stands, there's no need for you at all. AllieBlubber can post better drivel that what you've come up with in the last 24 hours.

Nice try, loser. But your OP was about as deep and clever as the average teenager cussing at the dinner table to shock Mom and Dad, and your subsequent posts were less meaningful and coherent than my last conversation with my two-year-old. No amount of assumed loftiness or looking up the spellings of psych meds is going to change the fact that you've made yourself out to be a crass, ill-mannered, adolescent religious bigot for all of us to see and laugh at.

Feel free to continue trying to pretend your posts require any sort of serious response. And by all means, hold your breath until you merit enough of my respect to get one.

Hey, tell us again how Avatar can't join a mercenary unit, and how that's relevant to the topic.