if iran gets the bomb, they can never use it.

[irosie91]

"proxy" wars? "blows the shit of things" << I am not familiar with
that expression. Iran is committing acts of aggression----using its own FUNDED AND ARMED AND TRAINED Shiite militias----that is not a "proxy"
anything---------killing people -----blowing up buses and buildings-----<<<not acts
of aggression???? you have a very strange perception of reality

If you don't know what a proxy war is stop posting until you do. That means you are talking out your ass.

wrong again ---vulgar pimp. I know what a proxy war is------and I recognize the stink of your farts ---------give me an example of a few PROXY wars that you
have in your shit brain. What did your imam tell you?-------feel free to express your stupidity

Start with Korea, then Vietnam. That's how it works. The guys with the nukes don't fight each other, not directly.

what about Korea and Vietnam?-------who was who's proxy? what makes you imagine that guys with nukes will not fight each other. ?

Because, they haven't since they got the nukes, dumbass. They fight proxy wars, using others mostly.

the issue is who is "THEY" --------the proxy accusation does not work unless you can say for whom the "proxy" is working

 

[PaintMyHouse]

If you don't know what a proxy war is stop posting until you do. That means you are talking out your ass.

wrong again ---vulgar pimp. I know what a proxy war is------and I recognize the stink of your farts ---------give me an example of a few PROXY wars that you
have in your shit brain. What did your imam tell you?-------feel free to express your stupidity

Start with Korea, then Vietnam. That's how it works. The guys with the nukes don't fight each other, not directly.

what about Korea and Vietnam?-------who was who's proxy? what makes you imagine that guys with nukes will not fight each other. ?

Because, they haven't since they got the nukes, dumbass. They fight proxy wars, using others mostly.

the issue is who is "THEY" --------the proxy accusation does not work unless you can say for whom the "proxy" is working

The proxy isn't working for either, it is being supported by who can't be in the war, for whatever reason. China supports Korea and Vietnam, it doesn't fight us directly. Iran supports Hezbollah, it doesn't fight Israel directly. The USSR supports Cuba, it doesn't fight us directly. That is a proxy war.

 

[Alex.]

They would pull the toilet chain.

Iran make be insane but they are also interested in self preservation. They would not launch.

launch what? a fission bomb? -----they would not have to-----dirty bombs would be enough-----and once they do it-----they will deny the "dirt"------even plantings of radioactive materials------and then deny. Several islamo Nazis just on this board would snarl-----FALSE FLAG

What kind of bomb are we talking about here? "A dirty bomb is in no way similar to a nuclear weapon or nuclear bomb. A nuclear bomb creates an explosion that is millions of times more powerful than that of a dirty bomb."

I know what a "dirty bomb" is------it does not EXPLODE because of the presence of radioactive materials----it just DEPOSITS the stuff-----A tiny pellet can wreck havoc depending on where it is placed------stuck in some plums in the grocery story or dropped into a large storage milk tank-----stuff like that-----or placed in some sort of exploding device it can just distribute radioactivity around--------try to cope with reality-----you want that stuff in the hands of Hezbollah operatives? ---the same kind of people who have been chanting "death to ______" since
age 2 after being told "allah returns the love you show him....."

No I do not want the stuff ion the hands of Iran, maybe my mistake but I thought this was about nuclear bomb.

well----its about NUCLEAR REACTORS-------the refined uranium----and stuff like that ------the things needed to make a nuclear bomb------and which also makes lots of other stuff----------like highly radioactive stuff------

So we expand the OP to mean any weapons which suits me fine. They are not trustworthy and should never have any weapons even sticks and stones.

 

[irosie91]

launch what? a fission bomb? -----they would not have to-----dirty bombs would be enough-----and once they do it-----they will deny the "dirt"------even plantings of radioactive materials------and then deny. Several islamo Nazis just on this board would snarl-----FALSE FLAG

What kind of bomb are we talking about here? "A dirty bomb is in no way similar to a nuclear weapon or nuclear bomb. A nuclear bomb creates an explosion that is millions of times more powerful than that of a dirty bomb."

I know what a "dirty bomb" is------it does not EXPLODE because of the presence of radioactive materials----it just DEPOSITS the stuff-----A tiny pellet can wreck havoc depending on where it is placed------stuck in some plums in the grocery story or dropped into a large storage milk tank-----stuff like that-----or placed in some sort of exploding device it can just distribute radioactivity around--------try to cope with reality-----you want that stuff in the hands of Hezbollah operatives? ---the same kind of people who have been chanting "death to ______" since
age 2 after being told "allah returns the love you show him....."

No I do not want the stuff ion the hands of Iran, maybe my mistake but I thought this was about nuclear bomb.

well----its about NUCLEAR REACTORS-------the refined uranium----and stuff like that ------the things needed to make a nuclear bomb------and which also makes lots of other stuff----------like highly radioactive stuff------

Tell us, just so we can get the hell out of this loop, why should Iran not have nukes when Israel already does?

because Iran is run by IMPERIALIST TOTALITARIAN IDEOLOGUES------the kind that goes in for genocide------like your Hero ADOLF---------and your other hero SADDAM Iran is desperate for EMPIRE-----like your two heroes-----and
even wants Saudi Arabia and the damned black rock------Israel just wants to be left alone to annoy EMPIRE BUILDERS ------Israel is a pain in the ass of totalitarian dictators -----------historically the only totalitarian who could tolerate Israel was ALEXANDER -----that's why there are lots of jews named ALEXANDER and lots named PHILIP (this name exists in my very own family).
There are virtually no adolfs and even less muhummads and stalin was desperate to get rid of jews. ---------contrary to the claims of islamo Nazis. Daniel annoyed Nebuchadnezzar and------Abraham annoyed Nimrod. You annoy me---but for entirely different reasons

 

[PaintMyHouse]

What kind of bomb are we talking about here? "A dirty bomb is in no way similar to a nuclear weapon or nuclear bomb. A nuclear bomb creates an explosion that is millions of times more powerful than that of a dirty bomb."

I know what a "dirty bomb" is------it does not EXPLODE because of the presence of radioactive materials----it just DEPOSITS the stuff-----A tiny pellet can wreck havoc depending on where it is placed------stuck in some plums in the grocery story or dropped into a large storage milk tank-----stuff like that-----or placed in some sort of exploding device it can just distribute radioactivity around--------try to cope with reality-----you want that stuff in the hands of Hezbollah operatives? ---the same kind of people who have been chanting "death to ______" since
age 2 after being told "allah returns the love you show him....."

No I do not want the stuff ion the hands of Iran, maybe my mistake but I thought this was about nuclear bomb.

well----its about NUCLEAR REACTORS-------the refined uranium----and stuff like that ------the things needed to make a nuclear bomb------and which also makes lots of other stuff----------like highly radioactive stuff------

Tell us, just so we can get the hell out of this loop, why should Iran not have nukes when Israel already does?

because Iran is run by IMPERIALIST TOTALITARIAN IDEOLOGUES------the kind that goes in for genocide------like your Hero ADOLF---------and your other hero SADDAM Iran is desperate for EMPIRE-----like your two heroes-----and
even wants Saudi Arabia and the damned black rock------Israel just wants to be left alone to annoy EMPIRE BUILDERS ------Israel is a pain in the ass of totalitarian dictators -----------historically the only totalitarian who could tolerate Israel was ALEXANDER -----that's why there are lots of jews named ALEXANDER and lots named PHILIP (this name exists in my very own family).
There are virtually no adolfs and even less muhummads and stalin was desperate to get rid of jews. ---------contrary to the claims of islamo Nazis. Daniel annoyed Nebuchadnezzar and------Abraham annoyed Nimrod. You annoy me---but for entirely different reasons

Okay, so you have no rational reason why one country can't have what another country does, you just don't like the idea and your fears get the best of you. Got it.

 

[irosie91]

wrong again ---vulgar pimp. I know what a proxy war is------and I recognize the stink of your farts ---------give me an example of a few PROXY wars that you
have in your shit brain. What did your imam tell you?-------feel free to express your stupidity

Start with Korea, then Vietnam. That's how it works. The guys with the nukes don't fight each other, not directly.

what about Korea and Vietnam?-------who was who's proxy? what makes you imagine that guys with nukes will not fight each other. ?

Because, they haven't since they got the nukes, dumbass. They fight proxy wars, using others mostly.

the issue is who is "THEY" --------the proxy accusation does not work unless you can say for whom the "proxy" is working

The proxy isn't working for either, it is being supported by who can't be in the war, for whatever reason. China supports Korea and Vietnam, it doesn't fight us directly. Iran supports Hezbollah, it doesn't fight Israel directly. The USSR supports Cuba, it doesn't fight us directly. That is a proxy war.

right----they are supported by because they are WORKING FOR------Hezbollah is working for Iran-------Hezbollah includes a few Iranians-----but mostly "OTHER SHIIITES" AND----Shiites imagine themselves "PERSIAN LIKE"-----really---
I have had Shiite friends-----both from Iran and from other places-----they virtually consider FARSI a "holy" language ------and anything "Persian"---sorta ----good. Sadly----Shiite arabs -------and Shiite Pakistanis-----are still arabs and Pakistanis in the eyes of Iranian Shiites. --------poor guys

 

[irosie91]

launch what? a fission bomb? -----they would not have to-----dirty bombs would be enough-----and once they do it-----they will deny the "dirt"------even plantings of radioactive materials------and then deny. Several islamo Nazis just on this board would snarl-----FALSE FLAG

What kind of bomb are we talking about here? "A dirty bomb is in no way similar to a nuclear weapon or nuclear bomb. A nuclear bomb creates an explosion that is millions of times more powerful than that of a dirty bomb."

I know what a "dirty bomb" is------it does not EXPLODE because of the presence of radioactive materials----it just DEPOSITS the stuff-----A tiny pellet can wreck havoc depending on where it is placed------stuck in some plums in the grocery story or dropped into a large storage milk tank-----stuff like that-----or placed in some sort of exploding device it can just distribute radioactivity around--------try to cope with reality-----you want that stuff in the hands of Hezbollah operatives? ---the same kind of people who have been chanting "death to ______" since
age 2 after being told "allah returns the love you show him....."

No I do not want the stuff ion the hands of Iran, maybe my mistake but I thought this was about nuclear bomb.

well----its about NUCLEAR REACTORS-------the refined uranium----and stuff like that ------the things needed to make a nuclear bomb------and which also makes lots of other stuff----------like highly radioactive stuff------

So we expand the OP to mean any weapons which suits me fine. They are not trustworthy and should never have any weapons even sticks and stones.

not even water pistols?

 

[depotoo]

Break away?!?

Your looking for rational thinking from a group that is not necessarily rational. One of the biggest mistakes we make is trying to apply western logic to those in the middle east especially the more radical elements.

i agree, but this world is getting much smaller. we will realise that when all passenger jets stream live date, worldwide. we have the technology now. it's an example of old v new. that's why i think it's odd that iran hasn't evolved as they break away from a theocracy/dictatorship.

 

[irosie91]

Break away?!?

Your looking for rational thinking from a group that is not necessarily rational. One of the biggest mistakes we make is trying to apply western logic to those in the middle east especially the more radical elements.

i agree, but this world is getting much smaller. we will realise that when all passenger jets stream live date, worldwide. we have the technology now. it's an example of old v new. that's why i think it's odd that iran hasn't evolved as they break away from a theocracy/dictatorship.

Iranians are very logical--------sorta

 

[irosie91]

I know what a "dirty bomb" is------it does not EXPLODE because of the presence of radioactive materials----it just DEPOSITS the stuff-----A tiny pellet can wreck havoc depending on where it is placed------stuck in some plums in the grocery story or dropped into a large storage milk tank-----stuff like that-----or placed in some sort of exploding device it can just distribute radioactivity around--------try to cope with reality-----you want that stuff in the hands of Hezbollah operatives? ---the same kind of people who have been chanting "death to ______" since
age 2 after being told "allah returns the love you show him....."

No I do not want the stuff ion the hands of Iran, maybe my mistake but I thought this was about nuclear bomb.

well----its about NUCLEAR REACTORS-------the refined uranium----and stuff like that ------the things needed to make a nuclear bomb------and which also makes lots of other stuff----------like highly radioactive stuff------

Tell us, just so we can get the hell out of this loop, why should Iran not have nukes when Israel already does?

because Iran is run by IMPERIALIST TOTALITARIAN IDEOLOGUES------the kind that goes in for genocide------like your Hero ADOLF---------and your other hero SADDAM Iran is desperate for EMPIRE-----like your two heroes-----and
even wants Saudi Arabia and the damned black rock------Israel just wants to be left alone to annoy EMPIRE BUILDERS ------Israel is a pain in the ass of totalitarian dictators -----------historically the only totalitarian who could tolerate Israel was ALEXANDER -----that's why there are lots of jews named ALEXANDER and lots named PHILIP (this name exists in my very own family).
There are virtually no adolfs and even less muhummads and stalin was desperate to get rid of jews. ---------contrary to the claims of islamo Nazis. Daniel annoyed Nebuchadnezzar and------Abraham annoyed Nimrod. You annoy me---but for entirely different reasons

Okay, so you have no rational reason why one country can't have what another country does, you just don't like the idea and your fears get the best of you. Got it.

I have no fears------too old for that. ------except dogs------dogs frighten me

 

[browsing deer]

If the Israelis didn't want nuclear proliferation,

they shouldn't have proliferated.

yeah-----ok, idiot. Israel is a lesson in restraint regarding it's nukes....
good they proliferated. ---------now Pakistan can boast RESTRAINT-
also good. --------nuclear materials can be used in TERRORISM----
not a good idea for Iran to have access

Israel's possession of nukes justifies Iran's possession of nukes. Self-defense.

How do you know Israel has nukes? They tell you? Do you know of any test they have conducted? They have never said one way or another.


(I know I know, but you would be hard pressed to prove that Israel does indeed possess nukes. They merely have lots of scientits who could whip up a bomb in days But that doesn't mean they have one)

 

[Alex.]

What kind of bomb are we talking about here? "A dirty bomb is in no way similar to a nuclear weapon or nuclear bomb. A nuclear bomb creates an explosion that is millions of times more powerful than that of a dirty bomb."

I know what a "dirty bomb" is------it does not EXPLODE because of the presence of radioactive materials----it just DEPOSITS the stuff-----A tiny pellet can wreck havoc depending on where it is placed------stuck in some plums in the grocery story or dropped into a large storage milk tank-----stuff like that-----or placed in some sort of exploding device it can just distribute radioactivity around--------try to cope with reality-----you want that stuff in the hands of Hezbollah operatives? ---the same kind of people who have been chanting "death to ______" since
age 2 after being told "allah returns the love you show him....."

No I do not want the stuff ion the hands of Iran, maybe my mistake but I thought this was about nuclear bomb.

well----its about NUCLEAR REACTORS-------the refined uranium----and stuff like that ------the things needed to make a nuclear bomb------and which also makes lots of other stuff----------like highly radioactive stuff------

So we expand the OP to mean any weapons which suits me fine. They are not trustworthy and should never have any weapons even sticks and stones.

not even water pistols?

a little squirt never hurt anyone.

 

[washamericom]

remember, everything you are watching right now on sixty minutes is...'transparent ...

 

[washamericom]

There are those among the Islamists who believe that jumping into an Apocalypse will force Allah's hand in their favor.

That's interesting. You seem to know a lot. Are there also some Christians who wouldn't mind bringing about the apocalypse?

so what's your problem ??

 

[LoneLaugher]

There are those among the Islamists who believe that jumping into an Apocalypse will force Allah's hand in their favor.

That's interesting. You seem to know a lot. Are there also some Christians who wouldn't mind bringing about the apocalypse?

so what's your problem ??

No problem. Did you think I said something to you?

 

[washamericom]

There are those among the Islamists who believe that jumping into an Apocalypse will force Allah's hand in their favor.

That's interesting. You seem to know a lot. Are there also some Christians who wouldn't mind bringing about the apocalypse?

so what's your problem ??

No problem. Did you think I said something to you?

well yeah.. you say lots of stuff... me too. that's why we are all here... forums like this will be where America's problems will be solved. not in DC.
here, and at the voting booth.

you argue well... and that's why we are all here... think ben franklin' 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he and i could both lose a few...

 

[deltex1]

in what direction could they send it whereby the end result wouldn't mean their own complete annihilation.

also, can someone explain to me why the rest of the world has the right to tell any country what to do.

what if canada or mexico or switzerland wants one.

Map of nuclear-armed states of the world.
NPT-designated nuclear weapon states (China, France,Russia, United Kingdom, United States)
Other states with nuclear weapons (India, Pakistan, North Korea)
Other states believed to have nuclear weapons (Israel)
NATO nuclear weapons sharing states (Belgium, Germany,Netherlands, Italy, Turkey)
States formerly possessing nuclear weapons (Belarus,Kazakhstan, Ukraine, South Africa)
There are eight sovereign states that have successfully detonatednuclear weapons.[1] Five are considered to be "nuclear-weapon states" (NWS) under the terms of the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT). In order of acquisition of nuclear weapons these are: the United States, Russia (successor state to the Soviet Union), the United Kingdom, France, and China.

it's a touchy subject, i don't want them to get it, & i'm very pro israel. but i haven't seen this discussion about the political nature (foreign and domestic) and subsequent consequences, especially with an election looming.

i don't like the essence or idea of a world government... is that where we're headed...??

maybe iran has a bomb now. it seems to me that knowing where their bomb is, is safer than not...

i was a little surprised to hear joe leiberman leading a charge against the new arms deal... will it get ratified ?

Can Congress stop the Iran deal - The Washington Post


Foreign Affairs Focus Gary Sick on Iran and the Bomb

i don't think the iran making a bomb is any more critical, than any country Buying a bomb....

maybe the concept of nuclear war is itself becoming obsolete, which harkens back to MAD (mutual assured destruction).

Who will annihilate them...the Jews will be dead...and Obabble will be on his knees....lining up a putt...

 

[Slyhunter]

There are those among the Islamists who believe that jumping into an Apocalypse will force Allah's hand in their favor.

That's interesting. You seem to know a lot. Are there also some Christians who wouldn't mind bringing about the apocalypse?

The 12th Imam The Mahdi and Iran Today
They believe the 12th imam will return when there is chaos and bloodshed on a world scale and save them.

and for those too lazy to click a link and read;

 

[washamericom]

in what direction could they send it whereby the end result wouldn't mean their own complete annihilation.

also, can someone explain to me why the rest of the world has the right to tell any country what to do.

what if canada or mexico or switzerland wants one.

Map of nuclear-armed states of the world.
NPT-designated nuclear weapon states (China, France,Russia, United Kingdom, United States)
Other states with nuclear weapons (India, Pakistan, North Korea)
Other states believed to have nuclear weapons (Israel)
NATO nuclear weapons sharing states (Belgium, Germany,Netherlands, Italy, Turkey)
States formerly possessing nuclear weapons (Belarus,Kazakhstan, Ukraine, South Africa)
There are eight sovereign states that have successfully detonatednuclear weapons.[1] Five are considered to be "nuclear-weapon states" (NWS) under the terms of the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT). In order of acquisition of nuclear weapons these are: the United States, Russia (successor state to the Soviet Union), the United Kingdom, France, and China.

it's a touchy subject, i don't want them to get it, & i'm very pro israel. but i haven't seen this discussion about the political nature (foreign and domestic) and subsequent consequences, especially with an election looming.

i don't like the essence or idea of a world government... is that where we're headed...??

maybe iran has a bomb now. it seems to me that knowing where their bomb is, is safer than not...

i was a little surprised to hear joe leiberman leading a charge against the new arms deal... will it get ratified ?

Can Congress stop the Iran deal - The Washington Post


Foreign Affairs Focus Gary Sick on Iran and the Bomb

i don't think the iran making a bomb is any more critical, than any country Buying a bomb....

maybe the concept of nuclear war is itself becoming obsolete, which harkens back to MAD (mutual assured destruction).

Anyone that has nuclear weapons can use them at anytime, period. Do you honestly believe that everyone in government, in every country, is sane, uses common sense, and exercises simple logic in all decisions and acts? Look, this world is full of crazies and loonies, and some are in high positions in governments around the world. Never ever bet the farm that some crazy wont hit the button. It would be stupid to think that countries with nuclear weapons would never use them.

you nailed it ... i agree w/everything you said.

 

[washamericom]

There are those among the Islamists who believe that jumping into an Apocalypse will force Allah's hand in their favor.

good point, i feel for the iranian population. the thing that amazes me, is that they are tech connected.
but ideologically (theologically) they still live i the stone age.. a living paradox. i wish we had supported them in 08. that would have ensured an arab spring, perhaps not a looming nuclear winter.

Remember, Japan was still in it's feudal period when it was opened up to the west...they armed themselves with modern weapons and went rampaging around Asia, with values and culture based in the middle ages......they were monsters...now there are people who want to give nuclear weapons to Iran...another country whose leadership is still in the middle ages.....

i think japan should have whatever they want (for/as defense) .. they have us...and/but they don't really want a nuclear bomb so maybe there's a clue.. canada..mexico.... and so forth ... and i hope they know we have their backs...we do. America has had so much success... we pass it around...