If Guns Kill People...

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    So it's not that people died it's that a group of people died.

    So somehow these people's deaths are different than the 99% of other murders.

    That more people were killed in this instance is irrelevant to the fact that all of you have to accept about human beings. That fact is human beings are the most dangerous, destructive, and violent animal ever to walk the earth.
     
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    Yeah? Which First World countries AREN'T diverse?

    The UK has 0.1% Gypsy, 2.3% Indian, 1.9% Pakistani, 0.7% Bangladeshi, 0.7% Chinese, 1.4% other Asian, 3% black, 2% Mixed race, 0.9% other races.

    Is this not diverse?

    That's more diverse than various US states, like Vermont, New Hampshire etc.
     
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    But again, more people die in the US per capita by gun murders, than people die in the UK by murders of all kinds (and the US figure is THREE TIMES HIGHER).

    Facts, facts, facts.
     
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    And our murder rate is at a 120 year low with a steep downward trend over the last 3 decades.

    I don't know what our baseline murder rate is but there are more variables than guns in the equation.
    As far back as I can find the US murder rate has always been higher than that of the UK and other European countries.

    Why is that?
     
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    Going by your logic it's only a matter of time until you start killing people.
     
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    Facts, our murder rate has always been higher than that of the UK as far back as I can find.

    Our murder rate is at a 120 year low the UK's murder rate is higher than it was before all their really strict gun laws were passed

    Guns and gun laws are not the only variables if they were our murder rate would be rising along with the number of guns
     
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    Fine, throw in irrelevant facts to counter my relevant facts.

    Why not put in how many blow jobs the last NFL quarterback scored in the last Superbowl too for good measure?

    The US has the HIGHEST MURDER RATE in the FIRST WORLD by A LONG FUCKING WAY. No matter how much this rate is going down, it's still the fucking highest murder rate and you seem to think that people's deaths are okay because... because... I fucking don't know.
     
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    Here's another fact. You don't check your "facts" before you make them up.

    In 1960 the US murder rate was 5.1, in 1963 it was 4.6, in 2015 it was 5.3.

    Now, where I come from 5.3 is a HIGHER number than 4.6, but where you come, I guess anything is possible.
     
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    And we always have had a higher murder rate.

    If you look at our stats and our stats only your arguments fall apart.

    We have more guns than ever but our murder rate is declining and if the trend continues we will set a record for the lowest murder rate in 120 years.
     
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    So, you've always had guns, and the Brits kind of always haven't had guns, and the US has always had higher murder than the Brits and somehow you think this shows that people with guns aren't more of a problem?

    Oh fucking jesus.
     

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