Ray From Cleveland
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If you care to research, you will see that there has been a long list of special prosecutors and special counsels. The investigations are all different but most commonly they do not release interim reports; that is all the public sees are indictments and trials as is occurring in the Mueller investigation. In about half the investigations a report was released at the end of investigation and made available to the public. There is nothing unusually about this investigation.I doubt that Trump had anything to do with the Russians. All he had to do was sit tight while the Comey investigation and later the Mueller investigation played out. But no, Trump for whatever reason had to interfere with investigation then fire Comey. Now it looks like he's going down the same road with Mueller. In the minds of the public, his possible involvement with the Russian will be unresolved but his inference in the investigations will be fact and that's what's going bring him down.Trump was never the choice of congressional republicans. They accepted him because they had no choice. If there is evidence of obstructions, collusion with the Russians, or any other crimes, they will dump him in a heartbreak for Pence. Trump is what every congressmen hates, an unpredictable and irascible president.So you actually believe that Mueller & House Democrats could show the American public solid evidence of Russian collusion & Obstruction of Justice and Senate Republicans would give up their seats for Trump--
You go right ahead and name the prominent Republicans (past Presidents--Senators past & current) that showed up at the National Convention in Cleveland when Trump won the nomination BTW-- (Mitch McConnell & Paul Ryan were forced to be there.)
John Kasich, Governor of Ohio, refused to show up--even though the convention was held in his home state. The Bush's voted for Hillary Clinton.
George H.W. Bush to vote for Hillary Clinton
In fact Mitch McConnell & the Republican Senate tried to block Trump from the nomination. Mitt Romney came out of retirement & won his election last night in Utah in an effort to save the Republican party--& he HATES Trump
Inside the Republican Party’s Desperate Mission to Stop Donald Trump
Now you think that there is some kind of "love affair" between Donald Trump & Senate Republicans. Especially after last night. On the contrary--they're probably looking forward to getting rid of him. Mike Pence comes in as President, whom they would be much happier with. You are very-very naive.
For those of you that want to watch a video of Trump admitting to Obstruction of Justice on national T.V., and read an article that was confirmed by James Clapper, National Intelligence director, under sworn testimony--just click this link to redirect to another post on this thread.
If Democrats Win House, What Damage Can They Really Do ?
I wouldn’t count on that. If Democrats do anything, they will bring stuff to the table as phony as Ford. Then Republican Senators would have to weigh how many people will stand behind Trump, especially those who’s re-election is coming up soon.
You can say or think anything you want, but to assume that somebody never involved in politics before had some kind of connection to Russia that could interfere in a national election and able to hide it is as ridiculous as saying man has the ability to control the earths temperature.
You people are not dealing with reality.
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If he fired Mueller tomorrow, that doesn't mean the investigation would stop. But even if that did happen, this has been going on for two years now, and nothing that was related to the accusation has been found.
This is the first in depth lengthy investigation that was ever started with zero proof of any wrongdoing. All other investigations had to have at least a hint of illegal activities even if they were found no laws were broken in the end.
As far as length of the investigation is concerned, the shortest investigation was Watergate which lasted only a few months. The longest was the Clinton Whitewater Investigation which lasted 8 1/2 years. The Iran-Contra investigation lasted over 6 years. The average length of an investigation is about 1 1/2 to 2 years. The Mueller investigation has been going less than 18 months.
If this investigation is judged base on length of the investigation and indictments and convictions it will be one of the most successful in history. There has certainly been more than a hint of illegal activities with 27 individual indictments and 3 corporate indictments plus 5 convictions to date.
If the Mueller investigation is stopped or sidetracked it will be because Trump wants it stopped just as he wanted the FBI investigation stopped. With democrats in control of the House, obstructing an investigation as he did with Comey is likely to cause Trump a lot more problems than letting it finish. However, if there is really damaging evidence of wrong doing against Trump, then he has good reason to shut it down and take his chances with congress.
Special prosecutor - Wikipedia
Mueller's investigation into Trump started one year ago — here's how long special prosecutor investigations usually last
Donald Trump was elected President on November 3rd 2016 and his inauguration was on January 20th, 2017. His investigation started almost immediately after taking office. He was only in politics a matter of days instead of the examples you provided where these were career politicians; some of them almost their entire adult life.
None of Mueller's indictments and convictions have anything to to with the charge Trump colluded with Russia. In fact, the only proof of Russian collusion is Hillary, the DNC, and her legal team. Yet no investigation into that......so far.
So what does Muller think he's doing? Why is he doing all this? Because he's hoping and praying that somebody he's putting pressure on will say something about Trump that he could go after him with. Like the Dr. Ford testimony, it doesn't have to be true, just enough to make uninformed voters suspicious about Trump. This is what federal agents used to do to try and get the top mob guys.
Trump has spent very little time in politics because his line of work was business and entertainment. Because of his wealth, he's been investigated by the IRS Lord knows how many times in his life. Trump didn't really need this job of President. In fact, it's pretty much a step-down in his life, so he wouldn't do anything illegal to get this job. It just wasn't that important to him like it would be for any other career politician.