I was fired because I support Trump!

[sealybobo]

I am with you, clearly a made up story to try and prove some point.

The funny part is this guy used to claim to be a libertarian, now he wants the Govt involved in hiring and firing...the two do not mesh.

I think the vast majority of US employers know you can't fire someone for their political beliefs.

Here are the Federal protected classes:

• Race.
• Color.
• Religion or creed.
• National origin or ancestry.
• Sex.
• Age.
• Physical or mental disability.
• Veteran status.
• Genetic information.
• Citizenship.

Nothing about political beliefs.

Though in a non-socialist country a person should be able to fire someone for any damn reason they want...but sadly that is not the case.

Political Affiliation is on the list in California.

That is because they are basically a socialist state. I am surprised to find that you support such things, but each to their own

Just running a little experiment. Same question, different narrative - radically different results. Hypocrisy party!

What advice did we give with the different narrative?

 

[dblack]

I think the vast majority of US employers know you can't fire someone for their political beliefs.

Here are the Federal protected classes:

• Race.
• Color.
• Religion or creed.
• National origin or ancestry.
• Sex.
• Age.
• Physical or mental disability.
• Veteran status.
• Genetic information.
• Citizenship.

Nothing about political beliefs.

Though in a non-socialist country a person should be able to fire someone for any damn reason they want...but sadly that is not the case.

Political Affiliation is on the list in California.

That is because they are basically a socialist state. I am surprised to find that you support such things, but each to their own

Just running a little experiment. Same question, different narrative - radically different results. Hypocrisy party!

What advice did we give with the different narrative?

Well, I was mostly looking at the vote totals.

Should political affiliation be a protected class?

 

[OldLady]

Well? What say you good people?

I'm sorry.

 

[Seawytch]

were you being an obnoxious jerk to the people around you? were you imposing your "views" on others?

Nope. I just wore my “Make America great again!" hat to work last week, and my boss said, "If you're not smart enough to realize that Trump is playing you like the audience of WWF, then you can find somewhere else to work!".

Isn't that discrimination?

I don't believe you.

I am with you, clearly a made up story to try and prove some point.

The funny part is this guy used to claim to be a libertarian, now he wants the Govt involved in hiring and firing...the two do not mesh.

I'll point out that the pretend libertarians are anti-choice and anti-gay marriage...... so love small gubmint until it legislates their religious theology.

I am a libertarian and I am anti-abortion because I believe in the liberty of all humans, even the little ones. The ultimate anti-liberty is death, and abortion causes death 100% of the time.

I think the Govt should not be in the marriage business at all, leave that to the churches.

You can be anti abortion and still support a woman's right to choose.

 

[Stormy Daniels]

were you being an obnoxious jerk to the people around you? were you imposing your "views" on others?

Nope. I just wore my “Make America great again!" hat to work last week, and my boss said, "If you're not smart enough to realize that Trump is playing you like the audience of WWF, then you can find somewhere else to work!".

Isn't that discrimination?

Well yes, that would be discrimination. Then again, only considering applicants who have a bachelor's degree is also discrimination. Only certain forms of discrimination are prohibited. The majority of the time, discrimination is lawful, expected, and advisable.

Then do you believe that hiring discrimination is OK for orgs like Media and Academia that routinely SELECT applicants on the basis of political alignment? Because that's obviously a direct parallel to discriminatory firing..

SOMEONE gets fired BEFORE they're even hired in that case...

Not quite sure what you're asking. Yes, hiring decisions are subject to discrimination laws just as much as firing decisions. Obviously. In terms of political affiliation being a protected class, there are exceptions just like other protected classes. Specifically, when the political affiliation has some actual relevance to the job. A Republican candidate for office is allowed to discriminate against would-be campaign staff who are Democrats. A Catholic church is allowed to discriminate against Jews when hiring a new priest. A movie director is allowed to discriminate against men when hiring an actor to portray a female character.

So no conservative journalists need apply at the WashPo or CNN? Even if it's NOT an "analyst" job? Or a university can't pack a Political Science with folks that match their political views?

Are those VALID exceptions to political discrimination in Hiring/Firing?

I get the impression you are making a clumsy brute force attempt to trap me into making a broad statement for a nuanced matter.

 

[Seawytch]

were you being an obnoxious jerk to the people around you? were you imposing your "views" on others?

Nope. I just wore my “Make America great again!" hat to work last week, and my boss said, "If you're not smart enough to realize that Trump is playing you like the audience of WWF, then you can find somewhere else to work!".

Isn't that discrimination?

I don't believe you.

I am with you, clearly a made up story to try and prove some point.

The funny part is this guy used to claim to be a libertarian, now he wants the Govt involved in hiring and firing...the two do not mesh.

I think the vast majority of US employers know you can't fire someone for their political beliefs.

Here are the Federal protected classes:

• Race.
• Color.
• Religion or creed.
• National origin or ancestry.
• Sex.
• Age.
• Physical or mental disability.
• Veteran status.
• Genetic information.
• Citizenship.

Nothing about political beliefs.

Though in a non-socialist country a person should be able to fire someone for any damn reason they want...but sadly that is not the case.

Yes...it is sad that I can't fire a Christian for being Christian but he can fire me for being gay.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Nope. I just wore my “Make America great again!" hat to work last week, and my boss said, "If you're not smart enough to realize that Trump is playing you like the audience of WWF, then you can find somewhere else to work!".

Isn't that discrimination?

I don't believe you.

I am with you, clearly a made up story to try and prove some point.

The funny part is this guy used to claim to be a libertarian, now he wants the Govt involved in hiring and firing...the two do not mesh.

I'll point out that the pretend libertarians are anti-choice and anti-gay marriage...... so love small gubmint until it legislates their religious theology.

I am a libertarian and I am anti-abortion because I believe in the liberty of all humans, even the little ones. The ultimate anti-liberty is death, and abortion causes death 100% of the time.

I think the Govt should not be in the marriage business at all, leave that to the churches.

You can be anti abortion and still support a woman's right to choose.

The problem with that is the human that will have its life ended does not get a say in what happens to it. Thus there is no liberty for that human.

 

[Kondor3]

No. One's employer should not be allowed to hire and fire based upon political views.

No. You did not get fired because you support Trump. Look in the mirror for the reason.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Nope. I just wore my “Make America great again!" hat to work last week, and my boss said, "If you're not smart enough to realize that Trump is playing you like the audience of WWF, then you can find somewhere else to work!".

Isn't that discrimination?

I don't believe you.

I am with you, clearly a made up story to try and prove some point.

The funny part is this guy used to claim to be a libertarian, now he wants the Govt involved in hiring and firing...the two do not mesh.

I think the vast majority of US employers know you can't fire someone for their political beliefs.

Here are the Federal protected classes:

• Race.
• Color.
• Religion or creed.
• National origin or ancestry.
• Sex.
• Age.
• Physical or mental disability.
• Veteran status.
• Genetic information.
• Citizenship.

Nothing about political beliefs.

Though in a non-socialist country a person should be able to fire someone for any damn reason they want...but sadly that is not the case.

Yes...it is sad that I can't fire a Christian for being Christian but he can fire me for being gay.

Yes, that is sad. Both of you should be able to be fired.

 

[Erinwltr]

"I was fired because I support Trump!" LOL! No you were not. Hey, at least it makes for a feisty thread. FF.

 

[Geaux4it]

Well? What say you good people?

I can fire you for any reason I want

-Geaux

 

[Moonglow]

Nope. I just wore my “Make America great again!" hat to work last week, and my boss said, "If you're not smart enough to realize that Trump is playing you like the audience of WWF, then you can find somewhere else to work!".

Isn't that discrimination?

I don't believe you.

I am with you, clearly a made up story to try and prove some point.

The funny part is this guy used to claim to be a libertarian, now he wants the Govt involved in hiring and firing...the two do not mesh.

I think the vast majority of US employers know you can't fire someone for their political beliefs.

Here are the Federal protected classes:

• Race.
• Color.
• Religion or creed.
• National origin or ancestry.
• Sex.
• Age.
• Physical or mental disability.
• Veteran status.
• Genetic information.
• Citizenship.

Nothing about political beliefs.

Though in a non-socialist country a person should be able to fire someone for any damn reason they want...but sadly that is not the case.

Yes...it is sad that I can't fire a Christian for being Christian but he can fire me for being gay.

Not in Texass..

 

[Moonglow]

Well? What say you good people?

I'm sorry.

He's hinting that he needs a couch to crash on...

 

[dblack]

Well? What say you good people?

I'm sorry.

He's hinting that he needs a couch to crash on...

A hand up, not a hand out.

 

[dblack]

Well? What say you good people?

I can fire you for any reason I want

-Geaux

No, you have to have permission from government. Try to follow along.

 

[Stormy Daniels]

A hand up, not a hand out.

Then quit yer whining, bitch!

 

[Mac1958]

"Should your boss be able to fire you because of your political views?"
Yes, of course, assuming it's a private company.

Should we have put ourselves in a situation as a country where we're so divided that this would even be an issue?
No. This is a self-inflicted wound, and we could stop it tomorrow if we wanted to.
.

 

[Geaux4it]

Well? What say you good people?

I can fire you for any reason I want

-Geaux

No, you have to have permission from government. Try to follow along.

No, not at all. Are you talking about a civil service job? If not, I can fire you for whatever reason I want

-Geaux

 

[Seawytch]

I don't believe you.

I am with you, clearly a made up story to try and prove some point.

The funny part is this guy used to claim to be a libertarian, now he wants the Govt involved in hiring and firing...the two do not mesh.

I'll point out that the pretend libertarians are anti-choice and anti-gay marriage...... so love small gubmint until it legislates their religious theology.

I am a libertarian and I am anti-abortion because I believe in the liberty of all humans, even the little ones. The ultimate anti-liberty is death, and abortion causes death 100% of the time.

I think the Govt should not be in the marriage business at all, leave that to the churches.

You can be anti abortion and still support a woman's right to choose.

The problem with that is the human that will have its life ended does not get a say in what happens to it. Thus there is no liberty for that human.

Well, until you can figure out how to grow an embryo outside a woman's body, welcome to the world as it is not the way you want it to be.

There is only one way to limit the number of abortions performed...and it won't be through regulation.

 

[Moonglow]

Well? What say you good people?

I'm sorry.

He's hinting that he needs a couch to crash on...

A hand up, not a hand out.

I ran out of hands..