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I could blame democrats all day for high gas prices...
You have made it policy to be anti-drilling and anti-refining....
We could drill our own oil and be self sustained for 100 years.
Of course if we did that it wouldn't matter because the government would come in and tax the fuck out of oil to the tune of 4.00 a gallon.
Of course progressives would rather have us buy oil from terrorists....
Nick, 98% of the world's oil reserves are in the hands of other countries. I don't think any realistic amount of domestic drilling is going to significantly affect the world's market price for oil.
Also, lets say everyone agreed to start drilling and all restrictions were removed, ect, do you realize we're looking at a good 5-7 years before we start seeing any impact on the market? Do you realize that it's going to be very expensive to setup the infrastructure to a pipeline, and that we have the potential to spill, leak, and that too will be very expensive. All of those costs will need get factored into any savings you may speculate to save at some distant point in the future.
I love how you just make shit up..........
The US sits on about 15% of all oil and we have barely touched it...
It wouldn't take 5-7 years, it would take about 2...
Gas in Venezuela is like .30 cents a gallon - which in US bucks would be around .07 cents a gallon.
I guess "anybody but Obama" has another meaning. The liberal media is becoming pathetic in their support for Barry Hussein. The A.P. has a story today about the Bin Ladin assassination just to remind us of something, anything that Barry has accomplished.
I love how you just make shit up..........
The US sits on about 15% of all oil and we have barely touched it...
It wouldn't take 5-7 years, it would take about 2...
Is that 15% a definitive amount or just an estimation? Also, you're saying it would only take 2 years to be at full production strength, with the entire supply chain working in full swing, and have accounted for all of the costs of the project (like spills, setbacks, and just the general cost of the project) in a way that the world's price of oil would be significantly affected?
Gas in Venezuela is like .30 cents a gallon - which in US bucks would be around .07 cents a gallon.
Nick, that's a highly subsidized price of gas. I didn't realize you were an endorser of Big Government setups like the one they have in Venezuela..
I think the point that Ravage was trying to get across was that speculation plays a much stronger role in determining the price of gas than any single President ever could. This is a direct response to your OP, where you suggest that Obama's unwillingness to support a pipeline or oil exploration is somehow the reason for the high gas prices today:
You also mocked the idea of "evil banks" controlling gas prices, which was another thing Ravage refuted:
Where I'm getting at is that you try to make it seem like Ravage is off topic, when really he's not; he's directly responding to your post.
Also, I believe that speculation has a LOT to do with determining the price of oil, yet you discount Ravage as a typical lib, mis informed, and repeating a lie. Do you not think that speculation plays a role? How do you justify your comment, exactly?
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He is 180 degress off topic
The level the left wingmedia is going to take this election is mind boggling, it has started
To kill a mokinbird being used as a re elect BHO because of his race to this in hours
BTW
4.00 a gallon gas has nothing to do with the millions of people out of work who had jobs when he took office
Its not about the price of gas to me (pipelines, etc...) its about the jobs
2008...... 136,790 114,281 21,334 767 7,162 13,406
2009...... 130,807 108,252 18,557 694 6,016 11,847
2010...... 129,818 107,337 17,755 705 5,526 11,524
ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/suppl/empsit.ceseeb1.txt
BHO has not even got this country back to where we where in 2008
not even close
GWB created millions
2000...... 131,785 110,995 24,649 599 6,787 17,263
2001...... 131,826 110,708 23,873 606 6,826 16,441
2002...... 130,341 108,828 22,557 583 6,716 15,259
2003...... 129,999 108,416 21,816 572 6,735 14,510
2004...... 131,435 109,814 21,882 591 6,976 14,315
2005...... 133,703 111,899 22,190 628 7,336 14,226
2006...... 136,086 114,113 22,531 684 7,691 14,155
2007...... 137,598 115,380 22,233 724 7,630 13,879
2008...... 136,790 114,281 21,334 767 7,162 13,406
ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/suppl/empsit.ceseeb1.txt
Wait...let's keep going...
2008...... 136,790 114,281 21,335 767 7,162 13,406
2009...... 130,807 108,252 18,558 694 6,016 11,847
2010...... 129,874 107,384 17,751 705 5,518 11,528
2011...... 131,359 109,254 18,021 784 5,504 11,733
Gee, YOUR SOURCE shows that after you guys tanked the economy, and lost 6 million jobs after you bailed out of office...Obama got jobs coming back fairly quickly didn't he?
Or perhaps you can point to the SPECIFIC cause that Obama instigated that caused the massive jobs loss in his first year?
Are jobs a leading or lagging indicator? Lagging of course. And Obama is doing a passable job with jobs considering how inpotent the do nothing congress has been the last year.
What fucking sort of delusional fantasy world are you fucking living in?
Even the Murdoch owned rag Wall Street Journal concedes that Bush had the WORST JOB CREATION RECORD IN HISTORY.
Bush On Jobs: The Worst Track Record On Record - Real Time Economics - WSJ
Enjoy your nice big shit sandwich you just made for yourself.
A total of 5 million jobs in 8 years?
At only a TRILLION dollars since then?
Calculating the cost of the Bush tax cuts - The Washington Post
So each job cost us roughly $200,000 in tax breaks.
Think all those jobs paid that much?
Fucking MATH you ignorant dolt!
No, in Venezuela gas is cheap because they drill it themselves...
It has nothing to do with subsidization.
The idea that supply and demand plays any role in Gas prices here in the US is laughable...
No, in Venezuela gas is cheap because they drill it themselves...
It has nothing to do with subsidization.
Really Mr. Nick, is this a serious statement? You're saying that Venezuela doesn't subsidize it's gas, and that $0.07/gal is some sort of natural market price "because they drill it themselves"? You're making me laugh. On top of it, you're accusing me of making things up?
You are completely, 100% mistaken. The Venezuelan government dishes out billions of dollars every year to keep the price of gas in their country artificially low. There's no debate.
The idea that supply and demand plays any role in Gas prices here in the US is laughable...
This statement of yours, Nick, is the thing that's laughable. "Supply and Demand doesn't play a role" in the price of US gas? Are you crazy or something?
It wouldn't matter because we would have 4.00 gallon gas even if we drilled it ourselves thanks to big government.
No, in Venezuela gas is cheap because they drill it themselves...
It wouldn't matter because we would have 4.00 gallon gas even if we drilled it ourselves thanks to big government.
No, in Venezuela gas is cheap because they drill it themselves...
Mr Peepers
1) It is as much about jobs as the price of fuel, Jobs we do not have
2) Are you trying to convince us that Oil extracted in Texas that has the grade to make diesel is going to be shipped over seas so we can ship that same oil back to make fuel from it? really? Now how would that increase profits Mr Peepers
8%
you do not like it, buy there stock and get on board
Exxon says profit margin comparable to other firms - MarketWatch
1) It is as much about jobs as the price of fuel, Jobs we do not have
2) Are you trying to convince us that Oil extracted in Texas that has the grade to make diesel is going to be shipped over seas so we can ship that same oil back to make fuel from it? really? Now how would that increase profits Mr Peepers
8%
you do not like it, buy there stock and get on board
2) Are you trying to convince us that Oil extracted in Texas that has the grade to make diesel is going to be shipped over seas so we can ship that same oil back to make fuel from it? really? Now how would that increase profits Mr Peepers
8%
1) It is as much about jobs as the price of fuel, Jobs we do not have
2) Are you trying to convince us that Oil extracted in Texas that has the grade to make diesel is going to be shipped over seas so we can ship that same oil back to make fuel from it? really? Now how would that increase profits Mr Peepers
8%
you do not like it, buy there stock and get on board
What does any of that have to do with what I posted??? You are in essence complaining that our oil and gas reserves aren't NATIONALIZED. If they were, that would be THOUSANDS of American jobs created. I absolutely will NOT invest in a corrupt, evil company like Exxon. I will not buy their gas, nor BP's - in fact, I'm off the grid. I bike and take the subway. And I'm sorry, but no company making "billions" in profit needs or deserves ANY kind of subsidies... Your corporate overlords have you properly bent over and spread wide. The least they could do is thank you and allow you a reach-around, but no...
Whats your solution to this job market?
Got any ideas?
You libs kill me with this corrupt, evil thing
Whats your solution to this job market?
Got any ideas?
As long as our government is properly paid for and our legislation a paid-for puppet of corporate America and multinationals, the job market will never get better. Never.
You just watch. You let them keep driving down wages, taking away benefits, outsorucing good-paying jobs and replacing them with low-paying McCrap jobs all while the corps are experiencing exploding worker productivity (with fewer workers, of course - but those workers aren't being compensated for the extra time, effort and stress - they're "just lucky to have a job"), profit and executive pay, and I hope you understand what this country is in for. No one really wants to "eat cake".
You libs kill me with this corrupt, evil thing
Exxon Valdez did not do the right thing when they spilled and neither did BP. Yes, I consider these corrupt and very much EVIL corporations, along with Monsanto, IBP, Cargill and many others.
The liberal biased media now blames 4.00 a gallon gas on credit cards. Could you imagine this article being wrote when W was the president and gas was 1.80 a gallon?
High Gas Prices: Should You Blame Your Bank? - ABC News
Govt adds an avg of 46 cents a gallon
Exxon makes about 1/2 of that in profit per gallon, or 7%
Oil exploration in this country along with new and modern refinaries are not on Obamas radar, lets not forget a much needed pipe-line that would connect Texas and there refinaries with Canada and there Oil Sands
Nope, Obama has nothing to do with it, it is the evil banks causing this also
Gas was $5 dollars a gallon during Bush presidency.
Mr Peepers, corporations don't pay taxes, people do
There is a balance with what it takes to run Govt as well as making a good living on our great nation, this includes working at a burger joint
An honest job is just that, an honest job
I hate you have such a bad out-look, but as you grow up that will cha
