I Suggest You Go To Iran, and LEARN

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    I have been there and will go again. The Iranian people LOVE Americans. They hate gwb and his idiotic claims and ambitions on them. Go there and feel the warmth of their sincerity.
     
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    Well except that the people don't run the government, the Mullahs do.
     
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    But there have been stories in the news about iranian students REBELLING against that authority, haven't there?

    Why do we ignore things like that when looking to demonize an entire population?
     
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    LOL! All the issues are because of GW? Right Psycho. :rolleyes: Shah, 444 days, etc.
     
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    You obfuscate, kitty.


    For what reason I can only suspect. I don't blame gwb for the shah, the 444 days or any of that shit that you unintelligently throw into this conversation.
     
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    What a load of BS. Iranians do NOT love Americans. I can smell what you're trying to sell from here ....
     
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    they will probably like us a whole ot less if we are caught up in a proxy war with them. Seems to me that at least SOME of them love western ideals enough to make their voices heard. I'd say that's worth more than bombing them back into blind hatred.
     
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    But the people there have been some of the most influential people in recent history to have personally organized changing their country's system through activism and protest, ALL BY THEMSELVES. I think that was what Psycho was getting at.

    Here, I don't see where Psycho was inferring that Iranians blame the problems they dislike about their country on Bush. He was merely saying that right now, they don't like Bush, instead of allowing people here in the states to somehow think Bush ought to come and "rescue" them from their problems, through a possible military regime change, maybe. Who knows. Anyway, Kath, you took that out of context. That's what I'm getting at.

    Gunny I love ya and all, but you really ought to at least throw us a bone on that one, and post a link or something. Don't you think?
     
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    Not sure where the option of bombing them came from. Whether or not Iranians embrace western idealism is conjecture. Seems some politicians assumed that about Iraq.

    As RGS pointed out, the people don't control Iran's military, nor Iran's media, nor Iran's government. If they want something other than what they have, then THEY need to make a change.
     
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    I remember a while back, maybe even BEFORE Bush, I don't remember, where I would hear ideas of using our covert ops abilities, and helping to force an uprising of the people of Iran. That country is RIPE for that right now. It could be done. All you need is a leader that the people will listen to, with the ideas they want to hear. That potential leader would have to keep the people FEARLESS. The fear of the people is want holds them back. Always has historically.

    But I don't hear that nowadays. I only hear about penalties, and possible war. YES Gunny, WAR. It's been mentioned by many of the top names in the administration that a military intervention of some sort is not off the table. You and I both know even the smallest of interventions is going to ignite war. Can the administration really be ignorant to that?

    You have to look past the whole "maybe they do, maybe they dont" nuclear issue. We can't just always so quick to be so tough all the time. We should think about working SMARTER, not harder.
     

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