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I have heard on National News networks that there are Big Biz not hiring to make it tough on Obama's re election chances. We all saw the oil companys play ball with the BUFFOON gw bush's party before the 2008 election by dropping gas prices for no apparent reason.Today we see those same oil company's raising prices before the 2012 election for no apparent reason except helping repukes during this election.
Yes we do and thanks for playing.That's right I say unemployment will drop again. But is it a good thing?
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Alright, how many are they going to drop this time? we currently have approx 5 million people dropped.
No we don't. And you have no actual data to back you up. You'll just cite some blog or opinion piece and not hard numbers. Well, if you try to back it up at all, but if you start to look and see that the Labor Force is larger now than pre-recession, you'll give up.
LEI for U.S. Increases Again | The Conference Board
Press Release / News
LEI for U.S. Increases Again
17 February, 2012
Please download related PDFs on the upper right corner of this page.
The Conference Board Leading Economic Index® (LEI) for the U.S. increased 0.4 percent in January to 94.9 (2004 = 100), following a 0.5 percent increase in December and a 0.3 percent increase in November.
Said Ataman Ozyildirim, economist at The Conference Board: “This fourth consecutive gain in the LEI reflected fairly widespread strength among its components, pointing to somewhat more positive economic conditions in early 2012. The LEI’s increase in January was led not only by improving financial and credit indicators, but also rising average workweek in manufacturing. These both offset consumers’ outlook about the economy, which remained pessimistic, though slightly less so. Meanwhile, the CEI rose again in January as employment, income, and sales data all point to improving current economic conditions despite a lack of contribution from industrial production.”
So you move the goal post when you did not get the desired information you were looking for. You asked for Consumer confidence numbers.
I gave them
The Conference Board Consumer Confidence Index®, which had increased in December, retreated in January. The Index now stands at 61.1 (1985=100), down from 64.8 in December. The Present Situation Index declined to 38.4 from 46.5. The Expectations Index edged down to 76.2 from 77.0 in December.
Consumer Confidence Index® | The Conference Board
You know what a better indicator of what is going right in the individual Americans lives?
The consumer confidence number.
You see if a family has someone who stops looking for work and yet still sees improvement in their lives then dropping of the unemployment rolls could be a possitive thing in their lives huh?
When a family member decides they DONT have to work so that family can live a comfortable life then that isnt bad is it.
How do you sus that out?
Consumer confidence numbers.
How are those numbers doing now?
Yes we do and thanks for playing.Alright, how many are they going to drop this time? we currently have approx 5 million people dropped.
No we don't. And you have no actual data to back you up. You'll just cite some blog or opinion piece and not hard numbers. Well, if you try to back it up at all, but if you start to look and see that the Labor Force is larger now than pre-recession, you'll give up.
I suggest you get up to speed.
If it is true that business is not hiring or expanding specifically to affect obama's reelection. GOOD.
Yes we do and thanks for playing.No we don't. And you have no actual data to back you up. You'll just cite some blog or opinion piece and not hard numbers. Well, if you try to back it up at all, but if you start to look and see that the Labor Force is larger now than pre-recession, you'll give up.
I suggest you get up to speed.
Yep, as I predicted, you didn't even try to back it up.
See here's where you're confused, non-farm payroll jobs are down by around 5 million, but that's not "dropped" and has nothing to do with the UE rate. (2 different surveys.
Coincidence?
Obama + dem Congress = economy going down more
Obama on the ropes + a rep House = economy slightly improving
Seems to me, we could keep obama, make the Senate a rep majority, put more reps in the House and it's choo choo, gravy train time.
Coincidence?
Obama + dem Congress = economy going down more
Obama on the ropes + a rep House = economy slightly improving
Seems to me, we could keep obama, make the Senate a rep majority, put more reps in the House and it's choo choo, gravy train time.
That could actually make sense. The absolute best REAL economic growth we have in the last 30 years is when Clinton was POTUS (you know, the last one to preside over a balanced budget?). And that was after he raised taxes on the wealthy thus ripping to shreds the arguments and lies for Trickle Down Economics.
Your memory serves you wrong. I certainly never said any such thing, though you do have a tendency to twist things into interesting interpretations.Yes we do and thanks for playing.
I suggest you get up to speed.
Yep, as I predicted, you didn't even try to back it up.
See here's where you're confused, non-farm payroll jobs are down by around 5 million, but that's not "dropped" and has nothing to do with the UE rate. (2 different surveys.
If memory serves you were the idiot that stated quite clearly the accounting methods can not possibly be altered. When I pointed out they have change twice in my life time you ran off like a little girl.
You want to question me...Gain some credibility.
Coincidence?
Obama + dem Congress = economy going down more
Obama on the ropes + a rep House = economy slightly improving
Seems to me, we could keep obama, make the Senate a rep majority, put more reps in the House and it's choo choo, gravy train time.
That could actually make sense. The absolute best REAL economic growth we have in the last 30 years is when Clinton was POTUS (you know, the last one to preside over a balanced budget?). And that was after he raised taxes on the wealthy thus ripping to shreds the arguments and lies for Trickle Down Economics.
Your memory serves you wrong. I certainly never said any such thing, though you do have a tendency to twist things into interesting interpretations.Yep, as I predicted, you didn't even try to back it up.
See here's where you're confused, non-farm payroll jobs are down by around 5 million, but that's not "dropped" and has nothing to do with the UE rate. (2 different surveys.
If memory serves you were the idiot that stated quite clearly the accounting methods can not possibly be altered. When I pointed out they have change twice in my life time you ran off like a little girl.
You want to question me...Gain some credibility.
And how is it you still can't back up your claim of 5 million?
It is all about lying about what is and is not meant by the supposed unemployment numbers.
The question to ask is how many as a percent were employed BEFORE Obama took over and how many NOW as a percent are employed.
LEI for U.S. Increases Again | The Conference Board
Press Release / News
LEI for U.S. Increases Again
17 February, 2012
Please download related PDFs on the upper right corner of this page.
The Conference Board Leading Economic Index® (LEI) for the U.S. increased 0.4 percent in January to 94.9 (2004 = 100), following a 0.5 percent increase in December and a 0.3 percent increase in November.
Said Ataman Ozyildirim, economist at The Conference Board: This fourth consecutive gain in the LEI reflected fairly widespread strength among its components, pointing to somewhat more positive economic conditions in early 2012. The LEIs increase in January was led not only by improving financial and credit indicators, but also rising average workweek in manufacturing. These both offset consumers outlook about the economy, which remained pessimistic, though slightly less so. Meanwhile, the CEI rose again in January as employment, income, and sales data all point to improving current economic conditions despite a lack of contribution from industrial production.
So you move the goal post when you did not get the desired information you were looking for. You asked for Consumer confidence numbers.
I gave them
Consumer Confidence Index® | The Conference Board
You know what a better indicator of what is going right in the individual Americans lives?
The consumer confidence number.
You see if a family has someone who stops looking for work and yet still sees improvement in their lives then dropping of the unemployment rolls could be a possitive thing in their lives huh?
When a family member decides they DONT have to work so that family can live a comfortable life then that isnt bad is it.
How do you sus that out?
Consumer confidence numbers.
How are those numbers doing now?
Does that mean you will agree to accept them as a good economic indicator?
Do you?LEI for U.S. Increases Again | The Conference Board
Press Release / News
LEI for U.S. Increases Again
17 February, 2012
Please download related PDFs on the upper right corner of this page.
The Conference Board Leading Economic Index® (LEI) for the U.S. increased 0.4 percent in January to 94.9 (2004 = 100), following a 0.5 percent increase in December and a 0.3 percent increase in November.
Said Ataman Ozyildirim, economist at The Conference Board: This fourth consecutive gain in the LEI reflected fairly widespread strength among its components, pointing to somewhat more positive economic conditions in early 2012. The LEIs increase in January was led not only by improving financial and credit indicators, but also rising average workweek in manufacturing. These both offset consumers outlook about the economy, which remained pessimistic, though slightly less so. Meanwhile, the CEI rose again in January as employment, income, and sales data all point to improving current economic conditions despite a lack of contribution from industrial production.
So you move the goal post when you did not get the desired information you were looking for. You asked for Consumer confidence numbers.
I gave them
Consumer Confidence Index® | The Conference Board
You know what a better indicator of what is going right in the individual Americans lives?
The consumer confidence number.
You see if a family has someone who stops looking for work and yet still sees improvement in their lives then dropping of the unemployment rolls could be a possitive thing in their lives huh?
When a family member decides they DONT have to work so that family can live a comfortable life then that isnt bad is it.
How do you sus that out?
Consumer confidence numbers.
How are those numbers doing now?
Does that mean you will agree to accept them a good economic indicator?
The Conference Board Consumer Confidence Index®, which had increased in December, retreated in January. The Index now stands at 61.1 (1985=100), down from 64.8 in December. The Present Situation Index declined to 38.4 from 46.5. The Expectations Index edged down to 76.2 from 77.0 in December.
You're right partisanship is bad for the country and non partisanship is good.
Was the patriot act a good thing?
How about the NDAA 2012?
Not terribly fond of them, but I wouldn't protest in the streets over them. Defense and terrorism are complicated subjects.
What in the word does this have to do with the conversation?
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Well, it's costing him a fortune in tin-foil!
why do you keep refusing to answer?
Obama, the Twenty First Century's Flim Flam man. Unemployment! Now you see it! Now you don't!
They're cooking the books down at BLS as we speak, bigreb. Its all about Obama's 'Fundamental Transformation Of America', yano! He's already got your yoke all measured out and fitted, customized just for you.
