I hate to say this, but President Trump is wrong about the stimulus checks

[jc456]

There shouldn't be any stimulus checks. The first $1,200 was a mistake and now the second $600 is just as huge of a mistake. Trump asking for $2,000 per person is insane. Giving these checks to people who will simply blow it on junk like Xboxes, iPhones, playstations, rent, food, and other bills is ridiculous. It's money down the drain and doesn't do anything to help the economy in ways that matter. This money should be going to landlords who are losing money because they had to evict tenants who lost their jobs, and they are unable to find anyone else to move into the newly vacant properties. It should go to businesses so that they can hire more people and pass some of the funds down to the new employees. It should go to investors so that they can feel confident in investing and keeping the markets moving. It should not be going to the people who will just blow it on junk I don't approve of. I am fine if it went to people who are successful, because they are the ones who have proven they know how to handle money, and it's likely they will take such money to hire people to babysit their kids and to mow their lawns. Give it to the people who matter and who will use it correctly.

What we should be doing is passing laws that encourage more jobs. That means making it so everything is opened back up immediately. Businesses that do not open up should be seized and auctioned off. We also need an emergency act that allows employers to hire new employees at wages below minimum wage and get rid of laws that require overtime pay. Gutting all of the Obamacare laws that force companies to offer insurance will also help. Encouraging companies all around to cut pay and benefits together will ensure no socialist corporation like Costco can ruin it. Perhaps even making it illegal to offer such benefits for a certain period time is needed. The same can be done by setting maximum wages on lower skilled labor jobs. I don't understand why a bagger at Costco is making $15/hr. Those need to be set to a more reasonable wage of around $5/hr at the most. This should only apply to certain low skill jobs like store clerks, burger flippers, help desk, janitors, clerks, receptionist, etc.., of course. I'm not suggesting real jobs should have such limits. But these corporations are basically implemented their own form of socialism by paying these low-skilled employees so much.

The utopian visions of Costco CEOs and the greed of the poor is destroying our economy and it will make recovery from democrat COVID crisis during President Trump's second and third terms much more difficult. The more money they pay these people, the more they have to charge for the goods and services. It's redistributing the wealth from our pockets into the pockets of the fast food workers at taco bell. I don't want to see sour cream squirters owning cars, fancy smartphones, or able to pay rent. It's literal theft from the haves to the have-nots. At the very least these limits should be imposed until 2025 and the economy is back in order during Trump's third term.

Fuck the governments, open up your businesses, and if the police show up to shut you down, then stand firm, form a large group, but keep the business open. See if the police want to have some really bad things happen, just for trying to have people be free. Time to shut the progressives down, if they dont like it, start burying them...

DING, DING, DING. Corporate leaders are fundamentally stupid it seems. forfeit profits and employees and succome to stupidity. Not a brain in their mthr fking heads. fk the governors. They have no authority to shut down business. Just don't. compliance is the corps fault and ruined many a folks lives. So now fk them. I told the area director of Chili's his company was insane on a telephone call, He said he had to do what the corporate office told him. I told him he was weak and ignorant of his own employees lives. Walmart can have customers but they can't. fk that I told him. Then he went off about Illinois HS sports and his own kid not being able to play basketball. I told him they were ignorant as well. The governor has no authority. They would lose in court. And that's the thing, they don't want to end up in court. No balls to stand up at loss of freedom. I spit at them all and fk them all as well.

 

[jc456]

Giving these checks to people who will simply blow it on... rent... and other bills is ridiculous.

This money should be going to landlords who are losing money because they had to evict tenants who lost their jobs

Seriously, look at what you just wrote.

You think people will foolishly spend the money on rent.

Yet, if they spend it on rent, it will be going to the landlords you say should get it. If the landlords are getting rent money, they don't have to evict anyone...

They simply have lost any semblance to logical thinking.
They are so far up Trump's ass that the lack of oxygen has cost them a functioning cerebral cortex.
Landlords are sitting on a PILE of evictions and they need the money, too.

logical thinking? you have no idea what that looks like.

 

[BluesLegend]

The bottom line is we are spending $900 billion which would give everyone who qualifies $6,600. Since people are only going to get $600 where's the other 90% of the damn money going???

 

[B. Kidd]

Veto this POS bill!
There isn't one cent going to the pygmies in New Guinea, fer' Chrissakes!!

 

[justinacolmena]

This money should be going to landlords who are losing money because they had to evict tenants who lost their jobs, and they are unable to find anyone else to move into the newly vacant properties.

Damn.

It ain't that easy to collect a security deposit, first month's rent, murder the new tenants, confiscate all their personal property and rent the same place out to someone else as if nothing happened.

Or is that the same landlord on the phone with the guy's boss at work? Just checking references? Or getting together to arrange a firing // eviction // arrest setup for him and rape his wife?

Because the guy's new in town and just landed a great job and his wife at home in the new apartment is likely more beautiful than he has permission from the landlord to stay married to, or else the other ladies at the apartment building have to cut her hair or do her nails and get paid for the job, or SHE won't be allowed to live there with her husband.

Gee whiz! Who would have guessed?

 

[DGS49]

Sorry for stating the obvious, but the best stimulus the Federal Government could provide for the economy would be to tell the nation's governors to abandon the shutdowns, and allow people to spend their money, and take their risks as they individually see fit.

If and when the pandemic gets bad enough, people will - of their own free will - stop going out and take more drastic measures in their own lives. Until then, "we" can all go back to work.

DO NOT FORGET, this economic devastation is NOT a result of the Pandemic, but rather it is the result of the various state shutdowns, which are 100% DISCRETIONARY, and not an "act of God."

 

[badger2]

If you own your own structure to dwell in, the rent pimps and evictions are eliminated. Rent pimps only ever charge the victim-scapegoat for inhabiting the space that their structure defines.

 

[Turtlesoup]

If we have extra money to funnel to terrorist in Pakistan, we have money to give Americans a few extra bucks.

We don't have money for either........

 

[TheGreatSatan]

If we have extra money to funnel to terrorist in Pakistan, we have money to give Americans a few extra bucks.

We don't have money for either........

America is being carved up, get a slice before it's gone.

 

[danielpalos]

There shouldn't be any stimulus checks. The first $1,200 was a mistake and now the second $600 is just as huge of a mistake. Trump asking for $2,000 per person is insane. Giving these checks to people who will simply blow it on junk like Xboxes, iPhones, playstations, rent, food, and other bills is ridiculous. It's money down the drain and doesn't do anything to help the economy in ways that matter. This money should be going to landlords who are losing money because they had to evict tenants who lost their jobs, and they are unable to find anyone else to move into the newly vacant properties. It should go to businesses so that they can hire more people and pass some of the funds down to the new employees. It should go to investors so that they can feel confident in investing and keeping the markets moving. It should not be going to the people who will just blow it on junk I don't approve of. I am fine if it went to people who are successful, because they are the ones who have proven they know how to handle money, and it's likely they will take such money to hire people to babysit their kids and to mow their lawns. Give it to the people who matter and who will use it correctly.

What we should be doing is passing laws that encourage more jobs. That means making it so everything is opened back up immediately. Businesses that do not open up should be seized and auctioned off. We also need an emergency act that allows employers to hire new employees at wages below minimum wage and get rid of laws that require overtime pay. Gutting all of the Obamacare laws that force companies to offer insurance will also help. Encouraging companies all around to cut pay and benefits together will ensure no socialist corporation like Costco can ruin it. Perhaps even making it illegal to offer such benefits for a certain period time is needed. The same can be done by setting maximum wages on lower skilled labor jobs. I don't understand why a bagger at Costco is making $15/hr. Those need to be set to a more reasonable wage of around $5/hr at the most. This should only apply to certain low skill jobs like store clerks, burger flippers, help desk, janitors, clerks, receptionist, etc.., of course. I'm not suggesting real jobs should have such limits. But these corporations are basically implemented their own form of socialism by paying these low-skilled employees so much.

The utopian visions of Costco CEOs and the greed of the poor is destroying our economy and it will make recovery from democrat COVID crisis during President Trump's second and third terms much more difficult. The more money they pay these people, the more they have to charge for the goods and services. It's redistributing the wealth from our pockets into the pockets of the fast food workers at taco bell. I don't want to see sour cream squirters owning cars, fancy smartphones, or able to pay rent. It's literal theft from the haves to the have-nots. At the very least these limits should be imposed until 2025 and the economy is back in order during Trump's third term.

Isn't right wing fantasy wonderful. Capital must circulate under capitalism. I only agree that arbitrary and capricious, one time payments are not as effective as solving simple poverty on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States.

 

[danielpalos]

Sorry for stating the obvious, but the best stimulus the Federal Government could provide for the economy would be to tell the nation's governors to abandon the shutdowns, and allow people to spend their money, and take their risks as they individually see fit.

If and when the pandemic gets bad enough, people will - of their own free will - stop going out and take more drastic measures in their own lives. Until then, "we" can all go back to work.

DO NOT FORGET, this economic devastation is NOT a result of the Pandemic, but rather it is the result of the various state shutdowns, which are 100% DISCRETIONARY, and not an "act of God."

Have you not been paying attention to the news? The healthcare sector is at or above capacity and it is impacting that sector in a negative manner.

 

[B. Kidd]

Sorry for stating the obvious, but the best stimulus the Federal Government could provide for the economy would be to tell the nation's governors to abandon the shutdowns, and allow people to spend their money, and take their risks as they individually see fit.

If and when the pandemic gets bad enough, people will - of their own free will - stop going out and take more drastic measures in their own lives. Until then, "we" can all go back to work.

DO NOT FORGET, this economic devastation is NOT a result of the Pandemic, but rather it is the result of the various state shutdowns, which are 100% DISCRETIONARY, and not an "act of God."

Have you not been paying attention to the news? The healthcare sector is at or above capacity and it is impacting that sector in a negative manner.

How?
Too many illegals have the Wuhan-V?

 

[cwise76]

There shouldn't be any stimulus checks. The first $1,200 was a mistake and now the second $600 is just as huge of a mistake. Trump asking for $2,000 per person is insane. Giving these checks to people who will simply blow it on junk like Xboxes, iPhones, playstations, rent, food, and other bills is ridiculous. It's money down the drain and doesn't do anything to help the economy in ways that matter. This money should be going to landlords who are losing money because they had to evict tenants who lost their jobs, and they are unable to find anyone else to move into the newly vacant properties. It should go to businesses so that they can hire more people and pass some of the funds down to the new employees. It should go to investors so that they can feel confident in investing and keeping the markets moving. It should not be going to the people who will just blow it on junk I don't approve of. I am fine if it went to people who are successful, because they are the ones who have proven they know how to handle money, and it's likely they will take such money to hire people to babysit their kids and to mow their lawns. Give it to the people who matter and who will use it correctly.

What we should be doing is passing laws that encourage more jobs. That means making it so everything is opened back up immediately. Businesses that do not open up should be seized and auctioned off. We also need an emergency act that allows employers to hire new employees at wages below minimum wage and get rid of laws that require overtime pay. Gutting all of the Obamacare laws that force companies to offer insurance will also help. Encouraging companies all around to cut pay and benefits together will ensure no socialist corporation like Costco can ruin it. Perhaps even making it illegal to offer such benefits for a certain period time is needed. The same can be done by setting maximum wages on lower skilled labor jobs. I don't understand why a bagger at Costco is making $15/hr. Those need to be set to a more reasonable wage of around $5/hr at the most. This should only apply to certain low skill jobs like store clerks, burger flippers, help desk, janitors, clerks, receptionist, etc.., of course. I'm not suggesting real jobs should have such limits. But these corporations are basically implemented their own form of socialism by paying these low-skilled employees so much.

The utopian visions of Costco CEOs and the greed of the poor is destroying our economy and it will make recovery from democrat COVID crisis during President Trump's second and third terms much more difficult. The more money they pay these people, the more they have to charge for the goods and services. It's redistributing the wealth from our pockets into the pockets of the fast food workers at taco bell. I don't want to see sour cream squirters owning cars, fancy smartphones, or able to pay rent. It's literal theft from the haves to the have-nots. At the very least these limits should be imposed until 2025 and the economy is back in order during Trump's third term.

You’re vision is blurry at best. Also extremely fucked up

 

[JuvenalsCat]

Giving these checks to people who will simply blow it on... rent... and other bills is ridiculous.

This money should be going to landlords who are losing money because they had to evict tenants who lost their jobs

Seriously, look at what you just wrote.

You think people will foolishly spend the money on rent.

Yet, if they spend it on rent, it will be going to the landlords you say should get it. If the landlords are getting rent money, they don't have to evict anyone...

What did you say? I can't understand you because I don't speak communist. The landlords should receive the money to help get through difficult times, because they are being forced to evict people. Many of their properties are sitting vacant because of this, and the government should help them out by giving them funds to cover they would have received if their tenants were able to pay rent. The idea of giving it to the tenants themselves so they can pay rent is not acceptable, because then those people will not have any motivation to find employment. There is one thing I've learned over the years, and it's that suffering people make the best workers and clients. They work harder for less as employees and as clients/customers they are willing to be more modest with their entitlement/expectations. That's partly why I am opposed to public schools that offer "free" education to every citizen. Once people learn to read & write, they start getting ideas that they are entitled to things that they are not entitled to.

Along the same lines, these stimulus checks and unemployment makes its hard to attract cheap labor. Right now my company is able to hire on new people at wages we haven't paid since the 90's because people are so desperate. We're saving so much money getting people to do the same work for 1/6th cost. More stimulus and unemployment screws this up, and makes it so employees feel secure to demand more and/or quit. It's communism! Four months ago we hired a triple CCIE as a network architect for only $10/hr. This guy used to work for the NSA in the TAO unit for christ sakes. It's been awesome having him around. We have fired most of our engineering staff because this guy is a freaking genius who can do everything. In fact, he automated so much of the work that he had so much idle time that we had to cut his hours and pay since he was doing less and less work. This stimulus will sadly make him think he has some leverage to demand 500% pay increase. It's awful what these communist policies do to businesses that are struggling to keep our executive pay at acceptable levels.

 

[danielpalos]

Sorry for stating the obvious, but the best stimulus the Federal Government could provide for the economy would be to tell the nation's governors to abandon the shutdowns, and allow people to spend their money, and take their risks as they individually see fit.

If and when the pandemic gets bad enough, people will - of their own free will - stop going out and take more drastic measures in their own lives. Until then, "we" can all go back to work.

DO NOT FORGET, this economic devastation is NOT a result of the Pandemic, but rather it is the result of the various state shutdowns, which are 100% DISCRETIONARY, and not an "act of God."

Have you not been paying attention to the news? The healthcare sector is at or above capacity and it is impacting that sector in a negative manner.

How?
Too many illegals have the Wuhan-V?

What are you talking about? Right wing bigotry is worthless under Capitalism.

 

[airplanemechanic]

There shouldn't be any stimulus checks. The first $1,200 was a mistake and now the second $600 is just as huge of a mistake. Trump asking for $2,000 per person is insane. Giving these checks to people who will simply blow it on junk like Xboxes, iPhones, playstations, rent, food, and other bills is ridiculous. It's money down the drain and doesn't do anything to help the economy in ways that matter. This money should be going to landlords who are losing money because they had to evict tenants who lost their jobs, and they are unable to find anyone else to move into the newly vacant properties.

You were sounding just kinda dumb up until the highlighted sentence. Then you went full blown stupid. But saying its "stupid" to give people money to pay rent or bills from a job lost because of a gov't mandated shutdown of their business is what is REALLY stupid.

Their has been an eviction moratorium in place since April. Nobody's been evicted. It even just got extended, or will, with the new Covid19 bill. Learn your facts. The problem lies in the fact that these landlords can't collect rent from unemployed tenants and can't evict so they can't put a paying person in that place. I feel much worse for the landlords than the tenants.

The gov't forced businesses to shut down and thus laid off employees. This isn't a normal economic downturn caused by some moronic half black liberal in office too clueless to figure out how to turn a doorknob. This is a gov't forced shutdown due to a hoax virus that has caused massive unemployment.

The gov't caused this shit, the gov't can fix it.

 

[B. Kidd]

Sorry for stating the obvious, but the best stimulus the Federal Government could provide for the economy would be to tell the nation's governors to abandon the shutdowns, and allow people to spend their money, and take their risks as they individually see fit.

If and when the pandemic gets bad enough, people will - of their own free will - stop going out and take more drastic measures in their own lives. Until then, "we" can all go back to work.

DO NOT FORGET, this economic devastation is NOT a result of the Pandemic, but rather it is the result of the various state shutdowns, which are 100% DISCRETIONARY, and not an "act of God."

Have you not been paying attention to the news? The healthcare sector is at or above capacity and it is impacting that sector in a negative manner.

How?
Too many illegals have the Wuhan-V?

What are you talking about? Right wing bigotry is worthless under Capitalism.

An honest question.
Answer it OR .

 

[JuvenalsCat]

There shouldn't be any stimulus checks. The first $1,200 was a mistake and now the second $600 is just as huge of a mistake. Trump asking for $2,000 per person is insane. Giving these checks to people who will simply blow it on junk like Xboxes, iPhones, playstations, rent, food, and other bills is ridiculous. It's money down the drain and doesn't do anything to help the economy in ways that matter. This money should be going to landlords who are losing money because they had to evict tenants who lost their jobs, and they are unable to find anyone else to move into the newly vacant properties.

You were sounding just kinda dumb up until the highlighted sentence. Then you went full blown stupid. But saying its "stupid" to give people money to pay rent or bills from a job lost because of a gov't mandated shutdown of their business is what is REALLY stupid.

Their has been an eviction moratorium in place since April. Nobody's been evicted. It even just got extended, or will, with the new Covid19 bill. Learn your facts.

The gov't forced businesses to shut down and thus laid off employees. This isn't a normal economic downturn caused by some moronic half black liberal in office too clueless to figure out how to turn a doorknob. This is a gov't forced shutdown due to a hoax virus that has caused massive unemployment.

The gov't caused this shit, the gov't can fix it.

Eviction moratoriums are a joke and should not be tolerated. Thankfully you're incorrect about them being applied universally since April. Also, it's great news that in many of the places that did have them, they are now expiring so that landlords can once again take control of their property. I just hope they get the help they deserve from the federal government.

 

[B. Kidd]

There shouldn't be any stimulus checks. The first $1,200 was a mistake and now the second $600 is just as huge of a mistake. Trump asking for $2,000 per person is insane. Giving these checks to people who will simply blow it on junk like Xboxes, iPhones, playstations, rent, food, and other bills is ridiculous. It's money down the drain and doesn't do anything to help the economy in ways that matter. This money should be going to landlords who are losing money because they had to evict tenants who lost their jobs, and they are unable to find anyone else to move into the newly vacant properties.

You were sounding just kinda dumb up until the highlighted sentence. Then you went full blown stupid. But saying its "stupid" to give people money to pay rent or bills from a job lost because of a gov't mandated shutdown of their business is what is REALLY stupid.

Their has been an eviction moratorium in place since April. Nobody's been evicted. It even just got extended, or will, with the new Covid19 bill. Learn your facts.

The gov't forced businesses to shut down and thus laid off employees. This isn't a normal economic downturn caused by some moronic half black liberal in office too clueless to figure out how to turn a doorknob. This is a gov't forced shutdown due to a hoax virus that has caused massive unemployment.

The gov't caused this shit, the gov't can fix it.

Eviction moratoriums are a joke and should not be tolerated. Thankfully you're incorrect about them being applied universally since April. Also, it's great news that in many of the places that did have them, they are now expiring so that landlords can once again take control of their property. I just hope they get the help they deserve from the federal government.

When are you fools gonna realize that your Gov't can no longer do much to help you except for kicking some odd cans down the road?

 

[danielpalos]

Sorry for stating the obvious, but the best stimulus the Federal Government could provide for the economy would be to tell the nation's governors to abandon the shutdowns, and allow people to spend their money, and take their risks as they individually see fit.

If and when the pandemic gets bad enough, people will - of their own free will - stop going out and take more drastic measures in their own lives. Until then, "we" can all go back to work.

DO NOT FORGET, this economic devastation is NOT a result of the Pandemic, but rather it is the result of the various state shutdowns, which are 100% DISCRETIONARY, and not an "act of God."

Have you not been paying attention to the news? The healthcare sector is at or above capacity and it is impacting that sector in a negative manner.

How?
Too many illegals have the Wuhan-V?

What are you talking about? Right wing bigotry is worthless under Capitalism.

An honest question.
Answer it OR .

You haven't been watching any news about the healthcare sector? Why should I take You seriously when right wing fantasy is what you seem to prefer.