I don't understand. Enlighten me.

[strollingbones]

My key charity is and always be local food banks...since you ask

 

[strollingbones]

After Katrina you were more than happy to use the term refugees

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

They break in and then don't report for their court date.

Illegal.

I was under the impression that most were detained at the border seeking asylum. This was front page news back in March of this year.

Absolutely not. They're bused everywhere in the US and dropped off. And here they stay until their court date....if they ever appear....

Trump Is Dumping Asylum Seekers on American Streets—but Solidarity Activists Are Fighting Back

That substantiates my claim that these people are asylum seekers and that they were detained at the border. Are you trying to prove my points?

It's from The Nation. It only proves that they are not detained their indefinitely. If they claim asylum, they are bused wherever, dropped off somewhere, and do not have to then report to any court. They are basically inside America and left alone.

I know where it is from. And I know asylum seekers cannot be detained indefinitely. It substantiates everything that I said and that you tried to refute.

Asylum seekers should be detained UNTIL their court hearing, and not released one second before being granted asylum.

Without that, the border means nothing!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I was reading the Pence visited a detention center. Now many are screaming he turned his back on those people. They were yelling they have been detained 40 days; are not allowed showers; bad food; no drinking water etc etc etc.

What I am confused about is....has any of those screaming about those peoples current living conditions realized yet that those people put themselves in there by entering our country illegally? And if they were set loose as they want, where are they supposed to go? Join the civilians of the USA in tent cities on the streets? And if that happened, how many now screaming about them being locked up with scream if housing is being built for them but they have their NOT IN MY BACK YARD signs all ready to carry in front of their city halls? Have ANY of those screaming visited the living conditions of the homeless on the streets of LA, SF, Insert City Name Here ________________? If not, why not? If so, where is the indignant hysterics for the veterans, children, mothers without fathers, seniors having to live in such conditions? And, what about babies born alive only to be murdered once out of the womb? They are screaming about seeing small children in those detention centers, asking "who is watching that poor baby sitting there on that cot alone?" yet ignore the baby crying at its birth only to die shortly after at the very hands that delivered it...or the child sitting on the curb because it has no home? Some are screaming about people in the detention centers being forced to sleep on concrete. Our veterans are sleeping on concrete too....on a city street or under an overpass. Old people. Young people. Handicapped people. Children. Concrete. And businesses make damn sure they don't sleep near their front doors so benches are made to force them to find other places to sleep. Not in their parks. Oh no. Not in their neighborhoods. Oh no. Yet....people who came here are to be pitied? Those folks put themselves in that position by breaking our laws. Why have they not figured that out yet?

Are those screaming willing and able to house, feed, clothe some of those folks? No. Not them. Someone else has to do it. Who is that someone else? And what citizen has to be shoved back to the end of the line to make room for them?

None of it makes sense. So..enlighten me if you can.

Below is anti homeless benches for right here in the USA. All those in the detention camps are HOMELESS. Hello????

benches to stop homeless - Google Search

Asylum seeking is not against the law. You're welcome.

if they seek asylum under false pretenses, it damn sure is a crime!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

For just one thing, just one. A child of an illegal immigrant in an American school does not use the resources of an American child. No, it's worse than that--she uses MORE. English as a Second Language. All the remedial courses because they're almost certainly behind grade level. Free and reduced lunches. So, if it costs, on average, $10,000 to educate a citizen child yearly, you can bet for sure it costs at least two grand MORE to educate that illegal child. And understand that their parents are paying in NOTHING toward those costs.

That is unjust. Their parents stole it. And we cannot afford it. I hold no animosity against the children, but we must put an end to this. It is fundamentally unfair to the children and families we have HERE, now.

Just imagine how they felt about you destabilizing their country. It is the reason they have fled it.

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure

Everything bad in the world--all of it, everything, is because America.

We're blamed because we THINK we're the center of the world, also...we're the center of the world, cause we made all the problems.

Go sell that crap canoe down some other river

So that's it? We can't have an honest discussion about American influence in Latin America? There is a lot to talk about. No wonder you want to draw the line. I think you know all too well how the situation developed.

You don't know much of anything apparently. You didn't even apparently know that illegals were bused all over America and let go. So if you don't know that, I'm very skeptical about what you "know" about America's influence in Latin America. But I'm sure it's a bunch of utter swill

You've heard of the Iran/Contra scandal? We could start there. Or we could go all the way back to the 50's.

Yes, we were aiding rebels overthrowing a Communist dictatorship, which means you had major problems with it!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

i am surprised after the kindness total strangers have shown you...that you revert back to this .....why dont you bitch about the millions trump used for his july 4 th parade or the millions given to trump and his people or clinton and theirs..instead you go on about helping refugees....the poorest of the poor....

your heart did not grow at all when helped....i am simply amazed at how heartless you are...even when shown such kindness you still dont have the heart to show it to others....

They're not "refugees". A refugee has been FORCED out of their home by devastation. They're immigrants, and illegal at that. They are choosing not to go about it the legal way--they are breaking into the system. Did Gracie do that, since you made it personal? Did she take people's stuff? Or did they give it to her freely?

As far as "heartless", she mentioned our OWN veterans, needy children, homeless. These illegals busted in and people like you apparently want to care for them before our very own. That's not fair.

I was under the impression that they are seeking asylum. Which means they are seeking protection because it is unsafe to live in their home country. If granted asylum they then become a refugee.

The word is " if " and Asylum is a loophole that illegals have learned to use to bypass our system because we can not turn them away.

90% seeking Asylum are not worthy of the status and use it so they can come into the country and never appear for their court date...

Now let me ask you and many on the left if those seeking asylum do not show for their court date and are out of status how should the U.S. Government treat them?

For me it is simple if they are caught they are deported and will be denied reentry for ten year minimum but let say you, and what is your true opinion?

I have no objections to returning people who have been denied asylum or who do not show up for their hearing.

So you are singing Trump's praises for the ICE raids against those who received orders for deportment, right?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I was under the impression that they are seeking asylum. Which means they are seeking protection because it is unsafe to live in their home country. If granted asylum they then become a refugee.

The word is " if " and Asylum is a loophole that illegals have learned to use to bypass our system because we can not turn them away.

90% seeking Asylum are not worthy of the status and use it so they can come into the country and never appear for their court date...

Now let me ask you and many on the left if those seeking asylum do not show for their court date and are out of status how should the U.S. Government treat them?

For me it is simple if they are caught they are deported and will be denied reentry for ten year minimum but let say you, and what is your true opinion?

I have no objections to returning people who have been denied asylum or who do not show up for their hearing.

You don't but politicians like Cortez will object.

The fact is Asylum by these immigrants is just a loophole into the country and you know this.

Personally I believe Asylum seekers should be held in border towns like El Paso until their court hearing.

I also believe the U.S. government should also work toward speeding up the process but alas what I believe goes against the Progressive movement to fracture this country further...

We really need a big, beautiful wall. Keep them out in the first place.

Watch the Lefties melt down now

I am 100% against the wall and Asylum seekers will not be kept out as the laws stands.

Also many times it has been proven the Cartel will dig under and pay off Federal, State and Local authorities.

Finally, when a Democrat win again which will happen the wall will be defunded and money would have been wasted.

Fixing the Immigration process is a must, guest worker program need revamping and anchor baby and asylum laws need to be changed to have any affect on slowing illegal immigration...

Digging under costs time, money and effort that the cartels do not currently have to expend by simply walking over the border. If you oppose the wall, you are simply a dumbass!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

So that's it? We can't have an honest discussion about American influence in Latin America? There is a lot to talk about. No wonder you want to draw the line. I think you know all too well how the situation developed.

You don't know much of anything apparently. You didn't even apparently know that illegals were bused all over America and let go. So if you don't know that, I'm very skeptical about what you "know" about America's influence in Latin America. But I'm sure it's a bunch of utter swill

The poster argument is they are not illegals but Asylum seekers when bussed which the poster is correct.

What the poster forget is that the Asylum rule is a loophole that many migrants are using so they can enter legally and then disappear into the communities and never going to their court appearance.

So it is a way for the left to play with words and confuse the low IQ voter...

Play with words? I call it having a truthful discussion. I do not automatically assume the IQ of the other participants. That reveals itself, naturally.

You are playing with words and fully know Asylum is a loophole into this country where most seekers do not show for their court hearing which make them illegal afterwards.

You have no issue with it and know ICE is limited in it resources and can not gather all the overstayed and out of status illegals in this country.

Then if the woman has a child here then the baby is reason why she can not be deported.

So many tricks and you and your kind attempt to play the word game but most Asylum seekers end up illegal.

I am not playing with words. This thread is about detention of asylum seekers. What I stated, and which you acknowledged as being correct, needed to be clarified. At which point the dam broke and we are off on a tangent.

I offered to discuss closing the loophole but that was met with resistance and blanket denial. So we live with the consequences of our actions.

Democrats in Congress refuse to close the loophole as they see it as an endless supply of future voters!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

i am surprised after the kindness total strangers have shown you...that you revert back to this .....why dont you bitch about the millions trump used for his july 4 th parade or the millions given to trump and his people or clinton and theirs..instead you go on about helping refugees....the poorest of the poor....

your heart did not grow at all when helped....i am simply amazed at how heartless you are...even when shown such kindness you still dont have the heart to show it to others....

They're not "refugees". A refugee has been FORCED out of their home by devastation. They're immigrants, and illegal at that. They are choosing not to go about it the legal way--they are breaking into the system. Did Gracie do that, since you made it personal? Did she take people's stuff? Or did they give it to her freely?

As far as "heartless", she mentioned our OWN veterans, needy children, homeless. These illegals busted in and people like you apparently want to care for them before our very own. That's not fair.

I was under the impression that they are seeking asylum. Which means they are seeking protection because it is unsafe to live in their home country. If granted asylum they then become a refugee.

Why would you be under that impression when clearly they did not seek asylum at the first country they entered after fleeing these so-called unsafe conditions?

Because it is a fact that they are asking for asylum in the US. I am not aware of any obligation for an asylum seeker to ask for it in the first country they enter.

You would be wrong, as per usual. A Nigerian cannot show up at the US border with Mexico and ask for asylum. They already left the threat behind when they entered the first country after leaving Nigeria.

 

[Gracie]

i am surprised after the kindness total strangers have shown you...that you revert back to this .....why dont you bitch about the millions trump used for his july 4 th parade or the millions given to trump and his people or clinton and theirs..instead you go on about helping refugees....the poorest of the poor....

your heart did not grow at all when helped....i am simply amazed at how heartless you are...even when shown such kindness you still dont have the heart to show it to others....

And you are EXACTLY why I myself didn't ask for help, Bones. I knew eventually it would be thrown in my face. I just didn't expect it from you.

 

[Gracie]

And, why are the screamers not yelling for Native American assistance? Do they not realize the dire circumstances in Pine Ridge and other reservations where the suicide rate is highest than anywhere else? They are brown people. What about them? Do they not count?

Suicide rate for Native American women is up 139%

This fails as a red herring fallacy, it’s completely unrelated to immigration law and the administration’s mishandling and incompetence with regard to the treatment of immigrants.

Oh. Kinda like Bones throwing something in my face that I personally did not ask for?
Who wants their money back? I will try to oblige.

 

[Gracie]

I was reading the Pence visited a detention center. Now many are screaming he turned his back on those people. They were yelling they have been detained 40 days; are not allowed showers; bad food; no drinking water etc etc etc.

What I am confused about is....has any of those screaming about those peoples current living conditions realized yet that those people put themselves in there by entering our country illegally? And if they were set loose as they want, where are they supposed to go? Join the civilians of the USA in tent cities on the streets? And if that happened, how many now screaming about them being locked up with scream if housing is being built for them but they have their NOT IN MY BACK YARD signs all ready to carry in front of their city halls? Have ANY of those screaming visited the living conditions of the homeless on the streets of LA, SF, Insert City Name Here ________________? If not, why not? If so, where is the indignant hysterics for the veterans, children, mothers without fathers, seniors having to live in such conditions? And, what about babies born alive only to be murdered once out of the womb? They are screaming about seeing small children in those detention centers, asking "who is watching that poor baby sitting there on that cot alone?" yet ignore the baby crying at its birth only to die shortly after at the very hands that delivered it...or the child sitting on the curb because it has no home? Some are screaming about people in the detention centers being forced to sleep on concrete. Our veterans are sleeping on concrete too....on a city street or under an overpass. Old people. Young people. Handicapped people. Children. Concrete. And businesses make damn sure they don't sleep near their front doors so benches are made to force them to find other places to sleep. Not in their parks. Oh no. Not in their neighborhoods. Oh no. Yet....people who came here are to be pitied? Those folks put themselves in that position by breaking our laws. Why have they not figured that out yet?

Are those screaming willing and able to house, feed, clothe some of those folks? No. Not them. Someone else has to do it. Who is that someone else? And what citizen has to be shoved back to the end of the line to make room for them?

None of it makes sense. So..enlighten me if you can.

Below is anti homeless benches for right here in the USA. All those in the detention camps are HOMELESS. Hello????

benches to stop homeless - Google Search

It's a misdemeanor crime. They have been given 40 days in a bad prison for the equivalent of jaywalking.

I was reading the Pence visited a detention center. Now many are screaming he turned his back on those people. They were yelling they have been detained 40 days; are not allowed showers; bad food; no drinking water etc etc etc.

What I am confused about is....has any of those screaming about those peoples current living conditions realized yet that those people put themselves in there by entering our country illegally? And if they were set loose as they want, where are they supposed to go? Join the civilians of the USA in tent cities on the streets? And if that happened, how many now screaming about them being locked up with scream if housing is being built for them but they have their NOT IN MY BACK YARD signs all ready to carry in front of their city halls? Have ANY of those screaming visited the living conditions of the homeless on the streets of LA, SF, Insert City Name Here ________________? If not, why not? If so, where is the indignant hysterics for the veterans, children, mothers without fathers, seniors having to live in such conditions? And, what about babies born alive only to be murdered once out of the womb? They are screaming about seeing small children in those detention centers, asking "who is watching that poor baby sitting there on that cot alone?" yet ignore the baby crying at its birth only to die shortly after at the very hands that delivered it...or the child sitting on the curb because it has no home? Some are screaming about people in the detention centers being forced to sleep on concrete. Our veterans are sleeping on concrete too....on a city street or under an overpass. Old people. Young people. Handicapped people. Children. Concrete. And businesses make damn sure they don't sleep near their front doors so benches are made to force them to find other places to sleep. Not in their parks. Oh no. Not in their neighborhoods. Oh no. Yet....people who came here are to be pitied? Those folks put themselves in that position by breaking our laws. Why have they not figured that out yet?

Are those screaming willing and able to house, feed, clothe some of those folks? No. Not them. Someone else has to do it. Who is that someone else? And what citizen has to be shoved back to the end of the line to make room for them?

None of it makes sense. So..enlighten me if you can.

Below is anti homeless benches for right here in the USA. All those in the detention camps are HOMELESS. Hello????

benches to stop homeless - Google Search

It's a misdemeanor crime. They have been given 40 days in a bad prison for the equivalent of jaywalking.

Then they should be released at the border so they can return to their original homes wherever those may be.

 

[Gracie]

I was reading the Pence visited a detention center. Now many are screaming he turned his back on those people. They were yelling they have been detained 40 days; are not allowed showers; bad food; no drinking water etc etc etc.

What I am confused about is....has any of those screaming about those peoples current living conditions realized yet that those people put themselves in there by entering our country illegally? And if they were set loose as they want, where are they supposed to go? Join the civilians of the USA in tent cities on the streets? And if that happened, how many now screaming about them being locked up with scream if housing is being built for them but they have their NOT IN MY BACK YARD signs all ready to carry in front of their city halls? Have ANY of those screaming visited the living conditions of the homeless on the streets of LA, SF, Insert City Name Here ________________? If not, why not? If so, where is the indignant hysterics for the veterans, children, mothers without fathers, seniors having to live in such conditions? And, what about babies born alive only to be murdered once out of the womb? They are screaming about seeing small children in those detention centers, asking "who is watching that poor baby sitting there on that cot alone?" yet ignore the baby crying at its birth only to die shortly after at the very hands that delivered it...or the child sitting on the curb because it has no home? Some are screaming about people in the detention centers being forced to sleep on concrete. Our veterans are sleeping on concrete too....on a city street or under an overpass. Old people. Young people. Handicapped people. Children. Concrete. And businesses make damn sure they don't sleep near their front doors so benches are made to force them to find other places to sleep. Not in their parks. Oh no. Not in their neighborhoods. Oh no. Yet....people who came here are to be pitied? Those folks put themselves in that position by breaking our laws. Why have they not figured that out yet?

Are those screaming willing and able to house, feed, clothe some of those folks? No. Not them. Someone else has to do it. Who is that someone else? And what citizen has to be shoved back to the end of the line to make room for them?

None of it makes sense. So..enlighten me if you can.

Below is anti homeless benches for right here in the USA. All those in the detention camps are HOMELESS. Hello????

benches to stop homeless - Google Search

For the price of the republican tax give-a-way the homeless could be homes, the hungry fed, the veterans cared for, and so on.

Nobody murders babies born alive. You need to stop with the fake news crap, it will rot your brain.

Its fake news???

 

[boedicca]

I was reading the Pence visited a detention center. Now many are screaming he turned his back on those people. They were yelling they have been detained 40 days; are not allowed showers; bad food; no drinking water etc etc etc.

What I am confused about is....has any of those screaming about those peoples current living conditions realized yet that those people put themselves in there by entering our country illegally? And if they were set loose as they want, where are they supposed to go? Join the civilians of the USA in tent cities on the streets? And if that happened, how many now screaming about them being locked up with scream if housing is being built for them but they have their NOT IN MY BACK YARD signs all ready to carry in front of their city halls? Have ANY of those screaming visited the living conditions of the homeless on the streets of LA, SF, Insert City Name Here ________________? If not, why not? If so, where is the indignant hysterics for the veterans, children, mothers without fathers, seniors having to live in such conditions? And, what about babies born alive only to be murdered once out of the womb? They are screaming about seeing small children in those detention centers, asking "who is watching that poor baby sitting there on that cot alone?" yet ignore the baby crying at its birth only to die shortly after at the very hands that delivered it...or the child sitting on the curb because it has no home? Some are screaming about people in the detention centers being forced to sleep on concrete. Our veterans are sleeping on concrete too....on a city street or under an overpass. Old people. Young people. Handicapped people. Children. Concrete. And businesses make damn sure they don't sleep near their front doors so benches are made to force them to find other places to sleep. Not in their parks. Oh no. Not in their neighborhoods. Oh no. Yet....people who came here are to be pitied? Those folks put themselves in that position by breaking our laws. Why have they not figured that out yet?

Are those screaming willing and able to house, feed, clothe some of those folks? No. Not them. Someone else has to do it. Who is that someone else? And what citizen has to be shoved back to the end of the line to make room for them?

None of it makes sense. So..enlighten me if you can.

Below is anti homeless benches for right here in the USA. All those in the detention camps are HOMELESS. Hello????

benches to stop homeless - Google Search

It's a misdemeanor crime. They have been given 40 days in a bad prison for the equivalent of jaywalking.

I was reading the Pence visited a detention center. Now many are screaming he turned his back on those people. They were yelling they have been detained 40 days; are not allowed showers; bad food; no drinking water etc etc etc.

What I am confused about is....has any of those screaming about those peoples current living conditions realized yet that those people put themselves in there by entering our country illegally? And if they were set loose as they want, where are they supposed to go? Join the civilians of the USA in tent cities on the streets? And if that happened, how many now screaming about them being locked up with scream if housing is being built for them but they have their NOT IN MY BACK YARD signs all ready to carry in front of their city halls? Have ANY of those screaming visited the living conditions of the homeless on the streets of LA, SF, Insert City Name Here ________________? If not, why not? If so, where is the indignant hysterics for the veterans, children, mothers without fathers, seniors having to live in such conditions? And, what about babies born alive only to be murdered once out of the womb? They are screaming about seeing small children in those detention centers, asking "who is watching that poor baby sitting there on that cot alone?" yet ignore the baby crying at its birth only to die shortly after at the very hands that delivered it...or the child sitting on the curb because it has no home? Some are screaming about people in the detention centers being forced to sleep on concrete. Our veterans are sleeping on concrete too....on a city street or under an overpass. Old people. Young people. Handicapped people. Children. Concrete. And businesses make damn sure they don't sleep near their front doors so benches are made to force them to find other places to sleep. Not in their parks. Oh no. Not in their neighborhoods. Oh no. Yet....people who came here are to be pitied? Those folks put themselves in that position by breaking our laws. Why have they not figured that out yet?

Are those screaming willing and able to house, feed, clothe some of those folks? No. Not them. Someone else has to do it. Who is that someone else? And what citizen has to be shoved back to the end of the line to make room for them?

None of it makes sense. So..enlighten me if you can.

Below is anti homeless benches for right here in the USA. All those in the detention camps are HOMELESS. Hello????

benches to stop homeless - Google Search

It's a misdemeanor crime. They have been given 40 days in a bad prison for the equivalent of jaywalking.

Then they should be released at the border so they can return to their original homes wherever those may be.

Indeed. Those who encourage illegals to leave their homes and come to the U.S. really do not care about them. They are using the illegals as political pawns.

 

[Gracie]

I was reading about all this stuff over at Twitter. A lot of very angry people in defense of people who came here illegally and are now locked up. I agree they should not be locked up. They need to be released back to the other side of the border from which they came. We are not the world police, and have our own to worry about.

And for those not aware..I have always been for the native american wrongs. Always. Ask any old timer that knows me....just don't ask those who seem to have issue with me accepting help when I very much needed it.

 

[Gracie]

Speaking of off topic...I keep up on the Paradise Camp Fire situation. Its slowly being cleaned up. Meanwhile...in Sacramento...there are some vacant fields/land/ware houses that city groups want to turn into homeless shelters/apts. Guess what? The neighborhoods where these are to be built are now up in arms with NOT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD signs. I find it so sad...and depressing..that even here, those in rough times still cannot find assistance yet we read about all the offerings of help and demands for people who have never spent a dime in taxes, don't bother to learn our language, get bumped to the top of the list for housing, get medical help when needed, their kids sent to schools, fed 3 square meals a day yet our own still suffer. THAT is what bothers me. If not for the kindness of strangers, I would be sleeping on concrete too. So I know of what I speak. But this is not about me, per sey. It is about what I am personally confronted with on a daily basis. If not for the grace of God, goes I.

Its just wrong. Period. Set them free...but at the border. Feed, clothe, treat our own FIRST. Then we can assist others. Until then...all focus should be on our own. Why is that so hard to address instead of attacking each other?

 

[Andylusion]

i am surprised after the kindness total strangers have shown you...that you revert back to this .....why dont you bitch about the millions trump used for his july 4 th parade or the millions given to trump and his people or clinton and theirs..instead you go on about helping refugees....the poorest of the poor....

your heart did not grow at all when helped....i am simply amazed at how heartless you are...even when shown such kindness you still dont have the heart to show it to others....

Because we have offered numerous solutions to this problem, and the left-wingers have blocked every single one of them.

The left-wing is 100% to blame for the problems at the border.

 

[Andylusion]

and i love that gracie suddenly cares about natives.....why care about them...and what christians you are....

didnt jesus say something about loving children and what you do to the least of mine you do to me....?

Yeah, and Christians make up the vast majority charity and help towards the poor. It's well known and established fact that people of faith donate far more of their money, and even their personal time, than left-wing snot nosed whiny jerks.

I've worked at the shelters myself. One thing I noticed, was that every single person helping there, was a Christian of various faiths. Catholic, Baptist, Lutheran, and so on. What else I noticed, was that not one... not even ONE, was a left-wing atheists.

We're better people than you. Not pride. Just a fact. Left-wingers are garbage people. Quick to point at others and say they should do more, while they themselves, don't do diddly jack shit.

 

[HenryBHough]

Good sensible post, most especially about the people yelling about no showers and etc. And our own people not taken care of.

I predict you will get exactly zero Leftist responses to this post.

Sadly, you are wrong.

The lefts are already in full rage - super-charged with their hatred and personal attacks.

Ah well, bats gotta fly and snakes gotta slither....

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

It is not but not showing for your court date should have your Asylum request denied and immediate removal from this country...

Probably it is. BUT first they have to find them.

And there is the problem right there Old Lady!

You have no issue with the loophole and the fact the migrant then become illegal by failing to show up for their court appearance, and for me when caught they should be deported and not allowed back for ten years.

Follow the rules but the left hate the rules in election years...

You have no issue with the loophole
Here you go again, a-hole, when I've said a hundred times here that if they are caught over the border illegally they should not be considered for an asylum claim.

What you wrote is not the same as we are writing about.

Asylum seekers using the loophole while knowing they will not be granted Asylum so they can get into the country legally but later become illegal is the discussion.

You have no issue with the loophole and that is the fact!

You have no issue with the loophole and that is the fact!
Why don't you stick to what you know, which is what YOUR opinions are, and stop making up others'. If people could not claim asylum after they have snuck across the border illegally, our system would not be so overwhelmed right now with backed up court cases. Then maybe we could think straight about what to do with those who are applying legally.

Again it is a loophole that you have no issue with and know very well Illegals use it to gain entry into the country and then fail to show for their court case.

So we should close that loophole, don't you agree?