I Blame Wilson for Bad Throw

I also thought that the receivers for the Seahawks did most of the work when it came to the passing game. A lot of those balls were just lobbed up high in the air and the receivers had to go up to retrieve them. A lot of those balls SHOULD have been intercepted, especially if we didn't have stupid Arrington covering one of the best receivers.

Then, we have the lucky ball bounce. Come on, that ball could have bounced anywhere, but it just so happens it bounced right into the receiver's face. Lol.
None of which has anything to do with the Seahawks making an incredibly stupid choice of not giving the ball to their premier running back, who in all likelihood, would have gotten the ball in the end zone.

It has everything to do with it. Teams that rely on a "star" player are easy to beat.
Pretty sophistry observation given the Seahawks finished the season with a 14-5 record on the season, 2nd best in the NFL. Clearly, they weren't as easy to beat as your ignorant opinion claims. Not to mention, they likely lost the Super Bowl because they didn't put the ball in the hands of their star running back.

Lol. They were outplayed and lost the game. They had a 10-point lead and couldn't hold on to it. Stop whining. Everyone is growing tired of it.

Oh, and CLEARLY they were since they DID get beat. :D
Not easily. :cuckoo:
 
None of which has anything to do with the Seahawks making an incredibly stupid choice of not giving the ball to their premier running back, who in all likelihood, would have gotten the ball in the end zone.

It has everything to do with it. Teams that rely on a "star" player are easy to beat.
Pretty sophistry observation given the Seahawks finished the season with a 14-5 record on the season, 2nd best in the NFL. Clearly, they weren't as easy to beat as your ignorant opinion claims. Not to mention, they likely lost the Super Bowl because they didn't put the ball in the hands of their star running back.

The game should never had come down to one play. Seattle let New England back into a game. The Seattle defense, was terrible in the fourth quarter, they had a huge breakdown and the Patriots scored 14 points inside of six minutes.

The Seattle defense was a big missing ingredient in the fourth, Brady made it look easy against the league's best D.

The one yard throw was a way to either score or go incomplete and stop the clock. Then Lynch would have two plays to punch it in and if not the first play, call a time out and run a third play. The should,have had three chances to punch it in. It was not a given that Lynch would have ran it in. Five times this season Lynch carried from the one and only once did he punch it in.
Games frequently come down to one play. And the play to call is to put the ball in the hands of what got you there. For the Seahawks, that was Lynch. There's plenty of reason to blame Wilson for throwing a bad pass -- but the coaches blew that call.

They had time for three plays, not one, had the ball went incomplete or scored, nobody would question the call. If it went for a TD, Carroll would have been a genius. Wilson the greatest QB of all time.

If it had come to one play, run it. Three plays, pass, set up the next two run plays, you still have a timeout to burn.

Nowhere in any book does it call for you to go with the one that got you there when you have three plays. Lynch was 1 for 5 from the one this past year.

Take three plays, you have the time.

Your hindsight is 20/20, your game coaching has a lot to be desired.

Belichick not call a timeout, lining up for a run, changed Carroll's play calling, he didn't want to be predictable, it didn't work, a great play was made by Butler. End of story.
You go with what got you there. Especially when what got you there was one of the best running backs currently playing.
 
I also thought that the receivers for the Seahawks did most of the work when it came to the passing game. A lot of those balls were just lobbed up high in the air and the receivers had to go up to retrieve them. A lot of those balls SHOULD have been intercepted, especially if we didn't have stupid Arrington covering one of the best receivers.

Then, we have the lucky ball bounce. Come on, that ball could have bounced anywhere, but it just so happens it bounced right into the receiver's face. Lol.
None of which has anything to do with the Seahawks making an incredibly stupid choice of not giving the ball to their premier running back, who in all likelihood, would have gotten the ball in the end zone.

It has everything to do with it. Teams that rely on a "star" player are easy to beat.
Pretty sophistry observation given the Seahawks finished the season with a 14-5 record on the season, 2nd best in the NFL. Clearly, they weren't as easy to beat as your ignorant opinion claims. Not to mention, they likely lost the Super Bowl because they didn't put the ball in the hands of their star running back.

The game should never had come down to one play. Seattle let New England back into a game. The Seattle defense, was terrible in the fourth quarter, they had a huge breakdown and the Patriots scored 14 points inside of six minutes.

The Seattle defense was a big missing ingredient in the fourth, Brady made it look easy against the league's best D.

The one yard throw was a way to either score or go incomplete and stop the clock. Then Lynch would have two plays to punch it in and if not the first play, call a time out and run a third play. The should,have had three chances to punch it in. It was not a given that Lynch would have ran it in. Five times this season Lynch carried from the one and only once did he punch it in.

Seattle's "breakdown" was when Jeramy Lane broke his wrist being tackled after intercepting Brady on the Patriots first drive. We were forced to play Therin(or whateverthefuckhisdumbassnameis) and he almost single handedly put the Patriots back in the game. With Sherman, Chancellor and Thomas playing with serious injuries there just were not enough healthy bodies to go around in the secondary. Brady rightly picked on Therin because he was the weak link. The move Julian Edelman put on Therin for the Patriots go ahead TD just about made me physically sick. No healthy member of the LOB would have allowed THAT completion. It wasn't a "breakdown" of the entire Seahawk defense. It was a substitute that had no business being in the game.

No excuses...We lost fair and square. But at times you appear to have very little football knowledge and just post nonsense to rattle people's cages with weak factual references and innuendo.
 
I also thought that the receivers for the Seahawks did most of the work when it came to the passing game. A lot of those balls were just lobbed up high in the air and the receivers had to go up to retrieve them. A lot of those balls SHOULD have been intercepted, especially if we didn't have stupid Arrington covering one of the best receivers.

Then, we have the lucky ball bounce. Come on, that ball could have bounced anywhere, but it just so happens it bounced right into the receiver's face. Lol.
None of which has anything to do with the Seahawks making an incredibly stupid choice of not giving the ball to their premier running back, who in all likelihood, would have gotten the ball in the end zone.

It has everything to do with it. Teams that rely on a "star" player are easy to beat.
Pretty sophistry observation given the Seahawks finished the season with a 14-5 record on the season, 2nd best in the NFL. Clearly, they weren't as easy to beat as your ignorant opinion claims. Not to mention, they likely lost the Super Bowl because they didn't put the ball in the hands of their star running back.

The game should never had come down to one play. Seattle let New England back into a game. The Seattle defense, was terrible in the fourth quarter, they had a huge breakdown and the Patriots scored 14 points inside of six minutes.

The Seattle defense was a big missing ingredient in the fourth, Brady made it look easy against the league's best D.

The one yard throw was a way to either score or go incomplete and stop the clock. Then Lynch would have two plays to punch it in and if not the first play, call a time out and run a third play. The should,have had three chances to punch it in. It was not a given that Lynch would have ran it in. Five times this season Lynch carried from the one and only once did he punch it in.

Seattle's "breakdown" was when Jeramy Lane broke his wrist being tackled after intercepting Brady on the Patriots first drive. We were forced to play Therin(or whateverthefuckhisdumbassnameis) and he almost single handedly put the Patriots back in the game. With Sherman, Chancellor and Thomas playing with serious injuries there just were not enough healthy bodies to go around in the secondary. Brady rightly picked on Therin because he was the weak link. The move Julian Edelman put on Therin for the Patriots go ahead TD just about made me physically sick. No healthy member of the LOB would have allowed THAT completion. It wasn't a "breakdown" of the entire Seahawk defense. It was a substitute that had no business being in the game.

No excuses...We lost fair and square. But at times you appear to have very little football knowledge and just post nonsense to rattle people's cages with weak factual references and innuendo.

You are saying keys injuries were on defensive team. Yet, the defensive didn't breakdown? There was a breakdown somewhere. The interception occurred in the first quarter the third quarter the Pats were shut down. But they didn't breakdown when the Patriots were picking them apart? They what? Got out played? Made mental mistakes? What do you call the fourth quarter defensive team not holding New England out of the end zone, twice. I would really like to know.

14 points scored in under six minutes for a defensive team that did not allow 16 points on average for an entire game. If the defensive team didn't breakdown, what did they do? 11 players could not keep the other 11 players out of the end zone twice. Had Seattle not gotten to the one had Seattle had not gotten the miracle catch and lost, would you not have blamed a defense that could not hold the lead in the fourth quarter?

It's a team sport, and Seattle's depth issue was exposed. Your bias toward Seattle seems to cloud your acceptance of the facts. The fact is Seattle's "best defense of all time," showed no real depth, not like great defenses of the past like the Steelers, the Bears and the Ravens.

I see 32 NFL teams, not one. I don't let bias cloud my mind for wins or losses. New England was damn lucky to win a game that they outplayed in three out of four quarters. The defensive team broke down. It's pretty plain for most objective people.
 
None of which has anything to do with the Seahawks making an incredibly stupid choice of not giving the ball to their premier running back, who in all likelihood, would have gotten the ball in the end zone.

It has everything to do with it. Teams that rely on a "star" player are easy to beat.
Pretty sophistry observation given the Seahawks finished the season with a 14-5 record on the season, 2nd best in the NFL. Clearly, they weren't as easy to beat as your ignorant opinion claims. Not to mention, they likely lost the Super Bowl because they didn't put the ball in the hands of their star running back.

The game should never had come down to one play. Seattle let New England back into a game. The Seattle defense, was terrible in the fourth quarter, they had a huge breakdown and the Patriots scored 14 points inside of six minutes.

The Seattle defense was a big missing ingredient in the fourth, Brady made it look easy against the league's best D.

The one yard throw was a way to either score or go incomplete and stop the clock. Then Lynch would have two plays to punch it in and if not the first play, call a time out and run a third play. The should,have had three chances to punch it in. It was not a given that Lynch would have ran it in. Five times this season Lynch carried from the one and only once did he punch it in.

Seattle's "breakdown" was when Jeramy Lane broke his wrist being tackled after intercepting Brady on the Patriots first drive. We were forced to play Therin(or whateverthefuckhisdumbassnameis) and he almost single handedly put the Patriots back in the game. With Sherman, Chancellor and Thomas playing with serious injuries there just were not enough healthy bodies to go around in the secondary. Brady rightly picked on Therin because he was the weak link. The move Julian Edelman put on Therin for the Patriots go ahead TD just about made me physically sick. No healthy member of the LOB would have allowed THAT completion. It wasn't a "breakdown" of the entire Seahawk defense. It was a substitute that had no business being in the game.

No excuses...We lost fair and square. But at times you appear to have very little football knowledge and just post nonsense to rattle people's cages with weak factual references and innuendo.

You are saying keys injuries were on defensive team. Yet, the defensive didn't breakdown? There was a breakdown somewhere. The interception occurred in the first quarter the third quarter the Pats were shut down. But they didn't breakdown when the Patriots were picking them apart? They what? Got out played? Made mental mistakes? What do you call the fourth quarter defensive team not holding New England out of the end zone, twice. I would really like to know.

14 points scored in under six minutes for a defensive team that did not allow 16 points on average for an entire game. If the defensive team didn't breakdown, what did they do? 11 players could not keep the other 11 players out of the end zone twice. Had Seattle not gotten to the one had Seattle had not gotten the miracle catch and lost, would you not have blamed a defense that could not hold the lead in the fourth quarter?

It's a team sport, and Seattle's depth issue was exposed. Your bias toward Seattle seems to cloud your acceptance of the facts. The fact is Seattle's "best defense of all time," showed no real depth, not like great defenses of the past like the Steelers, the Bears and the Ravens.

I see 32 NFL teams, not one. I don't let bias cloud my mind for wins or losses. New England was damn lucky to win a game that they outplayed in three out of four quarters. The defensive team broke down. It's pretty plain for most objective people.

I pointed out the "breakdown". Maybe if you read more slowly and sound out the big words the facts will become more clear..

Seattle didn't have any huge depth issue to speak of..at least none that could have been dealt with deep into the playoffs.

Three out of the four starting DBs were playing with SIGNIFICANT injuries then Lane broke his wrist in N E's first drive of the game. There were two major injuries encountered in the previous game with GB. Thomas dislocated his shoulder and Sherman sustained ligament damage to his elbow. Chancellor received a knee bruise and tendon damage on second to last day of practice preceding SB.

There is no way for a team to prepare for the level of injuries Seattle sustained nor keep enough players on a 53 man roster to compensate for the loss or degradation of players of the level of a Thomas, Chancellor or Sherman. Lane's broken wrist was the Camel that broke the Hair's back leaving the Seahawks highly vulnerable to a passing surgeon such as Brady to pick apart. Therin is a gifted special teams player but just better than average at CB. Byron Maxwell was moved to the Nickle position after Lane's injury. He normally plays opposite Sherman but with the injured Starters was needed to help those players provide pressure from the middle of the field depending on what direction the Pat's receivers were deployed.

Lane normally played the little used Nickle position because the LOB usually required no extra help. That changed after GB. The Nickle became more important with the injuries to Chancellor, Thomas and Sherman.

I honestly believe that if the GB game injuries and Chancellors freak collision in practice AND Lane's broken wrist hadn't occurred Seattle would have mopped the field with the Patriots. But that's football. Like I said "No excuses".
 
Idiot ... he needed one yard. Not 5, not 10, not 20. Yes, it's in the red zone. Yes, yardage is harder to gain. But again, he needed one yard. And again, he could have had 3 chances.

The smart play would have been to give him the ball.

What if he would have ran into Vince wilfork and fumbled that ball??

The seahawks were lucky to be playing in the super bowl in the first place. They lost, and they won't make it back. So enough with the would have could have should haves - it's over - you weren't good enough - sucks to be you.

Agree. Isn't it amusing how angry they get? Lol. Passing game counts too. :D

They're sore losers. The truth is they didn't even deserve to be playing in that game.

I agree. Green Bay WAY outplayed them in just about every aspect. They got lucky is all. Now that they lost, all the sore losers can't stop whining. The Patriots won fair and square. They outplayed them, regardless of whether it was a running or a passing play, they got beat.

Really? Rushing? ...Passing?....First Downs? Of these categories which did Green Bay win?

I guess you didn't see that game, or maybe you saw it with your blinders on, like you did the SB. :rolleyes-41:

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I also thought that the receivers for the Seahawks did most of the work when it came to the passing game. A lot of those balls were just lobbed up high in the air and the receivers had to go up to retrieve them. A lot of those balls SHOULD have been intercepted, especially if we didn't have stupid Arrington covering one of the best receivers.

Then, we have the lucky ball bounce. Come on, that ball could have bounced anywhere, but it just so happens it bounced right into the receiver's face. Lol.
None of which has anything to do with the Seahawks making an incredibly stupid choice of not giving the ball to their premier running back, who in all likelihood, would have gotten the ball in the end zone.

It has everything to do with it. Teams that rely on a "star" player are easy to beat.
Pretty sophistry observation given the Seahawks finished the season with a 14-5 record on the season, 2nd best in the NFL. Clearly, they weren't as easy to beat as your ignorant opinion claims. Not to mention, they likely lost the Super Bowl because they didn't put the ball in the hands of their star running back.

The game should never had come down to one play. Seattle let New England back into a game. The Seattle defense, was terrible in the fourth quarter, they had a huge breakdown and the Patriots scored 14 points inside of six minutes.

The Seattle defense was a big missing ingredient in the fourth, Brady made it look easy against the league's best D.

The one yard throw was a way to either score or go incomplete and stop the clock. Then Lynch would have two plays to punch it in and if not the first play, call a time out and run a third play. The should,have had three chances to punch it in. It was not a given that Lynch would have ran it in. Five times this season Lynch carried from the one and only once did he punch it in.
Games frequently come down to one play. And the play to call is to put the ball in the hands of what got you there. For the Seahawks, that was Lynch. There's plenty of reason to blame Wilson for throwing a bad pass -- but the coaches blew that call.

Quit your whining. Your team lost. Lol. Go away now. The game is OVER.
 
I also thought that the receivers for the Seahawks did most of the work when it came to the passing game. A lot of those balls were just lobbed up high in the air and the receivers had to go up to retrieve them. A lot of those balls SHOULD have been intercepted, especially if we didn't have stupid Arrington covering one of the best receivers.

Then, we have the lucky ball bounce. Come on, that ball could have bounced anywhere, but it just so happens it bounced right into the receiver's face. Lol.
None of which has anything to do with the Seahawks making an incredibly stupid choice of not giving the ball to their premier running back, who in all likelihood, would have gotten the ball in the end zone.

It has everything to do with it. Teams that rely on a "star" player are easy to beat.
Pretty sophistry observation given the Seahawks finished the season with a 14-5 record on the season, 2nd best in the NFL. Clearly, they weren't as easy to beat as your ignorant opinion claims. Not to mention, they likely lost the Super Bowl because they didn't put the ball in the hands of their star running back.

The game should never had come down to one play. Seattle let New England back into a game. The Seattle defense, was terrible in the fourth quarter, they had a huge breakdown and the Patriots scored 14 points inside of six minutes.

The Seattle defense was a big missing ingredient in the fourth, Brady made it look easy against the league's best D.

The one yard throw was a way to either score or go incomplete and stop the clock. Then Lynch would have two plays to punch it in and if not the first play, call a time out and run a third play. The should,have had three chances to punch it in. It was not a given that Lynch would have ran it in. Five times this season Lynch carried from the one and only once did he punch it in.

They blew it. They had a pretty good lead, 10 points, and they couldn't hold on to that. They had that lucky bobbling catch, which YES, was lucky because it could have bounced in any effing direction but it bounced right into the receiver's FACE. If not for THAT play, where would they have been? Also, this whole thing is effing idiotic, because their ball was intercepted in the end zone. PERIOD. END OF GAME.
 
It has everything to do with it. Teams that rely on a "star" player are easy to beat.
Pretty sophistry observation given the Seahawks finished the season with a 14-5 record on the season, 2nd best in the NFL. Clearly, they weren't as easy to beat as your ignorant opinion claims. Not to mention, they likely lost the Super Bowl because they didn't put the ball in the hands of their star running back.

The game should never had come down to one play. Seattle let New England back into a game. The Seattle defense, was terrible in the fourth quarter, they had a huge breakdown and the Patriots scored 14 points inside of six minutes.

The Seattle defense was a big missing ingredient in the fourth, Brady made it look easy against the league's best D.

The one yard throw was a way to either score or go incomplete and stop the clock. Then Lynch would have two plays to punch it in and if not the first play, call a time out and run a third play. The should,have had three chances to punch it in. It was not a given that Lynch would have ran it in. Five times this season Lynch carried from the one and only once did he punch it in.

Seattle's "breakdown" was when Jeramy Lane broke his wrist being tackled after intercepting Brady on the Patriots first drive. We were forced to play Therin(or whateverthefuckhisdumbassnameis) and he almost single handedly put the Patriots back in the game. With Sherman, Chancellor and Thomas playing with serious injuries there just were not enough healthy bodies to go around in the secondary. Brady rightly picked on Therin because he was the weak link. The move Julian Edelman put on Therin for the Patriots go ahead TD just about made me physically sick. No healthy member of the LOB would have allowed THAT completion. It wasn't a "breakdown" of the entire Seahawk defense. It was a substitute that had no business being in the game.

No excuses...We lost fair and square. But at times you appear to have very little football knowledge and just post nonsense to rattle people's cages with weak factual references and innuendo.

You are saying keys injuries were on defensive team. Yet, the defensive didn't breakdown? There was a breakdown somewhere. The interception occurred in the first quarter the third quarter the Pats were shut down. But they didn't breakdown when the Patriots were picking them apart? They what? Got out played? Made mental mistakes? What do you call the fourth quarter defensive team not holding New England out of the end zone, twice. I would really like to know.

14 points scored in under six minutes for a defensive team that did not allow 16 points on average for an entire game. If the defensive team didn't breakdown, what did they do? 11 players could not keep the other 11 players out of the end zone twice. Had Seattle not gotten to the one had Seattle had not gotten the miracle catch and lost, would you not have blamed a defense that could not hold the lead in the fourth quarter?

It's a team sport, and Seattle's depth issue was exposed. Your bias toward Seattle seems to cloud your acceptance of the facts. The fact is Seattle's "best defense of all time," showed no real depth, not like great defenses of the past like the Steelers, the Bears and the Ravens.

I see 32 NFL teams, not one. I don't let bias cloud my mind for wins or losses. New England was damn lucky to win a game that they outplayed in three out of four quarters. The defensive team broke down. It's pretty plain for most objective people.

I pointed out the "breakdown". Maybe if you read more slowly and sound out the big words the facts will become more clear..

Seattle didn't have any huge depth issue to speak of..at least none that could have been dealt with deep into the playoffs.

Three out of the four starting DBs were playing with SIGNIFICANT injuries then Lane broke his wrist in N E's first drive of the game. There were two major injuries encountered in the previous game with GB. Thomas dislocated his shoulder and Sherman sustained ligament damage to his elbow. Chancellor received a knee bruise and tendon damage on second to last day of practice preceding SB.

There is no way for a team to prepare for the level of injuries Seattle sustained nor keep enough players on a 53 man roster to compensate for the loss or degradation of players of the level of a Thomas, Chancellor or Sherman. Lane's broken wrist was the Camel that broke the Hair's back leaving the Seahawks highly vulnerable to a passing surgeon such as Brady to pick apart. Therin is a gifted special teams player but just better than average at CB. Byron Maxwell was moved to the Nickle position after Lane's injury. He normally plays opposite Sherman but with the injured Starters was needed to help those players provide pressure from the middle of the field depending on what direction the Pat's receivers were deployed.

Lane normally played the little used Nickle position because the LOB usually required no extra help. That changed after GB. The Nickle became more important with the injuries to Chancellor, Thomas and Sherman.

I honestly believe that if the GB game injuries and Chancellors freak collision in practice AND Lane's broken wrist hadn't occurred Seattle would have mopped the field with the Patriots. But that's football. Like I said "No excuses".

Believe what you need to believe.

The Hawks defense was not deep enough to cover their injuries and got beat in the fourth.

Injuries or not, no excuses. Could the game had turned out differently? Yep, the pats could have touched Seattle in the first half, but it didn't happen.

You are giving the fact the DBs were injured as a reason, is an excuse.
Maybe you don't understand what "no excuses" really means.


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None of which has anything to do with the Seahawks making an incredibly stupid choice of not giving the ball to their premier running back, who in all likelihood, would have gotten the ball in the end zone.

It has everything to do with it. Teams that rely on a "star" player are easy to beat.
Pretty sophistry observation given the Seahawks finished the season with a 14-5 record on the season, 2nd best in the NFL. Clearly, they weren't as easy to beat as your ignorant opinion claims. Not to mention, they likely lost the Super Bowl because they didn't put the ball in the hands of their star running back.

The game should never had come down to one play. Seattle let New England back into a game. The Seattle defense, was terrible in the fourth quarter, they had a huge breakdown and the Patriots scored 14 points inside of six minutes.

The Seattle defense was a big missing ingredient in the fourth, Brady made it look easy against the league's best D.

The one yard throw was a way to either score or go incomplete and stop the clock. Then Lynch would have two plays to punch it in and if not the first play, call a time out and run a third play. The should,have had three chances to punch it in. It was not a given that Lynch would have ran it in. Five times this season Lynch carried from the one and only once did he punch it in.
Games frequently come down to one play. And the play to call is to put the ball in the hands of what got you there. For the Seahawks, that was Lynch. There's plenty of reason to blame Wilson for throwing a bad pass -- but the coaches blew that call.

Quit your whining. Your team lost. Lol. Go away now. The game is OVER.
You're a complete mental case. :cuckoo: As already stated, I'm not a fan of either team.
 
Pretty sophistry observation given the Seahawks finished the season with a 14-5 record on the season, 2nd best in the NFL. Clearly, they weren't as easy to beat as your ignorant opinion claims. Not to mention, they likely lost the Super Bowl because they didn't put the ball in the hands of their star running back.

The game should never had come down to one play. Seattle let New England back into a game. The Seattle defense, was terrible in the fourth quarter, they had a huge breakdown and the Patriots scored 14 points inside of six minutes.

The Seattle defense was a big missing ingredient in the fourth, Brady made it look easy against the league's best D.

The one yard throw was a way to either score or go incomplete and stop the clock. Then Lynch would have two plays to punch it in and if not the first play, call a time out and run a third play. The should,have had three chances to punch it in. It was not a given that Lynch would have ran it in. Five times this season Lynch carried from the one and only once did he punch it in.

Seattle's "breakdown" was when Jeramy Lane broke his wrist being tackled after intercepting Brady on the Patriots first drive. We were forced to play Therin(or whateverthefuckhisdumbassnameis) and he almost single handedly put the Patriots back in the game. With Sherman, Chancellor and Thomas playing with serious injuries there just were not enough healthy bodies to go around in the secondary. Brady rightly picked on Therin because he was the weak link. The move Julian Edelman put on Therin for the Patriots go ahead TD just about made me physically sick. No healthy member of the LOB would have allowed THAT completion. It wasn't a "breakdown" of the entire Seahawk defense. It was a substitute that had no business being in the game.

No excuses...We lost fair and square. But at times you appear to have very little football knowledge and just post nonsense to rattle people's cages with weak factual references and innuendo.

You are saying keys injuries were on defensive team. Yet, the defensive didn't breakdown? There was a breakdown somewhere. The interception occurred in the first quarter the third quarter the Pats were shut down. But they didn't breakdown when the Patriots were picking them apart? They what? Got out played? Made mental mistakes? What do you call the fourth quarter defensive team not holding New England out of the end zone, twice. I would really like to know.

14 points scored in under six minutes for a defensive team that did not allow 16 points on average for an entire game. If the defensive team didn't breakdown, what did they do? 11 players could not keep the other 11 players out of the end zone twice. Had Seattle not gotten to the one had Seattle had not gotten the miracle catch and lost, would you not have blamed a defense that could not hold the lead in the fourth quarter?

It's a team sport, and Seattle's depth issue was exposed. Your bias toward Seattle seems to cloud your acceptance of the facts. The fact is Seattle's "best defense of all time," showed no real depth, not like great defenses of the past like the Steelers, the Bears and the Ravens.

I see 32 NFL teams, not one. I don't let bias cloud my mind for wins or losses. New England was damn lucky to win a game that they outplayed in three out of four quarters. The defensive team broke down. It's pretty plain for most objective people.

I pointed out the "breakdown". Maybe if you read more slowly and sound out the big words the facts will become more clear..

Seattle didn't have any huge depth issue to speak of..at least none that could have been dealt with deep into the playoffs.

Three out of the four starting DBs were playing with SIGNIFICANT injuries then Lane broke his wrist in N E's first drive of the game. There were two major injuries encountered in the previous game with GB. Thomas dislocated his shoulder and Sherman sustained ligament damage to his elbow. Chancellor received a knee bruise and tendon damage on second to last day of practice preceding SB.

There is no way for a team to prepare for the level of injuries Seattle sustained nor keep enough players on a 53 man roster to compensate for the loss or degradation of players of the level of a Thomas, Chancellor or Sherman. Lane's broken wrist was the Camel that broke the Hair's back leaving the Seahawks highly vulnerable to a passing surgeon such as Brady to pick apart. Therin is a gifted special teams player but just better than average at CB. Byron Maxwell was moved to the Nickle position after Lane's injury. He normally plays opposite Sherman but with the injured Starters was needed to help those players provide pressure from the middle of the field depending on what direction the Pat's receivers were deployed.

Lane normally played the little used Nickle position because the LOB usually required no extra help. That changed after GB. The Nickle became more important with the injuries to Chancellor, Thomas and Sherman.

I honestly believe that if the GB game injuries and Chancellors freak collision in practice AND Lane's broken wrist hadn't occurred Seattle would have mopped the field with the Patriots. But that's football. Like I said "No excuses".

Believe what you need to believe.

The Hawks defense was not deep enough to cover their injuries and got beat in the fourth.

Injuries or not, no excuses. Could the game had turned out differently? Yep, the pats could have touched Seattle in the first half, but it didn't happen.

You are giving the fact the DBs were injured as a reason, is an excuse.
Maybe you don't understand what "no excuses" really means.


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The Patriots did play great in the 4th quarter. No doubt. That's what they do. That doesn't erase the fact that the Seahawks put themselves into a position to win the game and made a call so stupid, it will likely be remembered as the worst call in Super Bowl history.
 
It has everything to do with it. Teams that rely on a "star" player are easy to beat.
Pretty sophistry observation given the Seahawks finished the season with a 14-5 record on the season, 2nd best in the NFL. Clearly, they weren't as easy to beat as your ignorant opinion claims. Not to mention, they likely lost the Super Bowl because they didn't put the ball in the hands of their star running back.

The game should never had come down to one play. Seattle let New England back into a game. The Seattle defense, was terrible in the fourth quarter, they had a huge breakdown and the Patriots scored 14 points inside of six minutes.

The Seattle defense was a big missing ingredient in the fourth, Brady made it look easy against the league's best D.

The one yard throw was a way to either score or go incomplete and stop the clock. Then Lynch would have two plays to punch it in and if not the first play, call a time out and run a third play. The should,have had three chances to punch it in. It was not a given that Lynch would have ran it in. Five times this season Lynch carried from the one and only once did he punch it in.
Games frequently come down to one play. And the play to call is to put the ball in the hands of what got you there. For the Seahawks, that was Lynch. There's plenty of reason to blame Wilson for throwing a bad pass -- but the coaches blew that call.

Quit your whining. Your team lost. Lol. Go away now. The game is OVER.
You're a complete mental case. :cuckoo: As already stated, I'm not a fan of either team.

Oh, I'm a mental case? :lol: Listen up mister, I AM a fan. Here you are, claiming to be not a fan of either team but still here bitching a WEEK after the game is already over and the winner declared, and you have the nerve to call others a "mental case?" :finger3: I think it's clear who is the mental case here, and it is not me. Lol.
 
The game should never had come down to one play. Seattle let New England back into a game. The Seattle defense, was terrible in the fourth quarter, they had a huge breakdown and the Patriots scored 14 points inside of six minutes.

The Seattle defense was a big missing ingredient in the fourth, Brady made it look easy against the league's best D.

The one yard throw was a way to either score or go incomplete and stop the clock. Then Lynch would have two plays to punch it in and if not the first play, call a time out and run a third play. The should,have had three chances to punch it in. It was not a given that Lynch would have ran it in. Five times this season Lynch carried from the one and only once did he punch it in.

Seattle's "breakdown" was when Jeramy Lane broke his wrist being tackled after intercepting Brady on the Patriots first drive. We were forced to play Therin(or whateverthefuckhisdumbassnameis) and he almost single handedly put the Patriots back in the game. With Sherman, Chancellor and Thomas playing with serious injuries there just were not enough healthy bodies to go around in the secondary. Brady rightly picked on Therin because he was the weak link. The move Julian Edelman put on Therin for the Patriots go ahead TD just about made me physically sick. No healthy member of the LOB would have allowed THAT completion. It wasn't a "breakdown" of the entire Seahawk defense. It was a substitute that had no business being in the game.

No excuses...We lost fair and square. But at times you appear to have very little football knowledge and just post nonsense to rattle people's cages with weak factual references and innuendo.

You are saying keys injuries were on defensive team. Yet, the defensive didn't breakdown? There was a breakdown somewhere. The interception occurred in the first quarter the third quarter the Pats were shut down. But they didn't breakdown when the Patriots were picking them apart? They what? Got out played? Made mental mistakes? What do you call the fourth quarter defensive team not holding New England out of the end zone, twice. I would really like to know.

14 points scored in under six minutes for a defensive team that did not allow 16 points on average for an entire game. If the defensive team didn't breakdown, what did they do? 11 players could not keep the other 11 players out of the end zone twice. Had Seattle not gotten to the one had Seattle had not gotten the miracle catch and lost, would you not have blamed a defense that could not hold the lead in the fourth quarter?

It's a team sport, and Seattle's depth issue was exposed. Your bias toward Seattle seems to cloud your acceptance of the facts. The fact is Seattle's "best defense of all time," showed no real depth, not like great defenses of the past like the Steelers, the Bears and the Ravens.

I see 32 NFL teams, not one. I don't let bias cloud my mind for wins or losses. New England was damn lucky to win a game that they outplayed in three out of four quarters. The defensive team broke down. It's pretty plain for most objective people.

I pointed out the "breakdown". Maybe if you read more slowly and sound out the big words the facts will become more clear..

Seattle didn't have any huge depth issue to speak of..at least none that could have been dealt with deep into the playoffs.

Three out of the four starting DBs were playing with SIGNIFICANT injuries then Lane broke his wrist in N E's first drive of the game. There were two major injuries encountered in the previous game with GB. Thomas dislocated his shoulder and Sherman sustained ligament damage to his elbow. Chancellor received a knee bruise and tendon damage on second to last day of practice preceding SB.

There is no way for a team to prepare for the level of injuries Seattle sustained nor keep enough players on a 53 man roster to compensate for the loss or degradation of players of the level of a Thomas, Chancellor or Sherman. Lane's broken wrist was the Camel that broke the Hair's back leaving the Seahawks highly vulnerable to a passing surgeon such as Brady to pick apart. Therin is a gifted special teams player but just better than average at CB. Byron Maxwell was moved to the Nickle position after Lane's injury. He normally plays opposite Sherman but with the injured Starters was needed to help those players provide pressure from the middle of the field depending on what direction the Pat's receivers were deployed.

Lane normally played the little used Nickle position because the LOB usually required no extra help. That changed after GB. The Nickle became more important with the injuries to Chancellor, Thomas and Sherman.

I honestly believe that if the GB game injuries and Chancellors freak collision in practice AND Lane's broken wrist hadn't occurred Seattle would have mopped the field with the Patriots. But that's football. Like I said "No excuses".

Believe what you need to believe.

The Hawks defense was not deep enough to cover their injuries and got beat in the fourth.

Injuries or not, no excuses. Could the game had turned out differently? Yep, the pats could have touched Seattle in the first half, but it didn't happen.

You are giving the fact the DBs were injured as a reason, is an excuse.
Maybe you don't understand what "no excuses" really means.


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The Patriots did play great in the 4th quarter. No doubt. That's what they do. That doesn't erase the fact that the Seahawks put themselves into a position to win the game and made a call so stupid, it will likely be remembered as the worst call in Super Bowl history.

It's possible that it was the worst call, but that seems pretty unlikely. It wasn't THAT bad a call. There is sound reasoning behind it (trying to make sure they would have 3 tries at the end zone, including the possibility of 2 runs on 3rd and 4th down if they so chose), it's not as though the call was so completely outrageous that no one could ever imagine it.
 
Ball should have been thrown to receiver's gut, not over his shoulder. Perfect spot for an interception. Bingo.
I figure the Pats probably had engaged in some SPYING and maybe even stole the signals for the call of that play.

But that would be cheating.

Hmm.

so maybe the Pats are innocent. Surely, they would never CHEAT!
 
Pretty sophistry observation given the Seahawks finished the season with a 14-5 record on the season, 2nd best in the NFL. Clearly, they weren't as easy to beat as your ignorant opinion claims. Not to mention, they likely lost the Super Bowl because they didn't put the ball in the hands of their star running back.

The game should never had come down to one play. Seattle let New England back into a game. The Seattle defense, was terrible in the fourth quarter, they had a huge breakdown and the Patriots scored 14 points inside of six minutes.

The Seattle defense was a big missing ingredient in the fourth, Brady made it look easy against the league's best D.

The one yard throw was a way to either score or go incomplete and stop the clock. Then Lynch would have two plays to punch it in and if not the first play, call a time out and run a third play. The should,have had three chances to punch it in. It was not a given that Lynch would have ran it in. Five times this season Lynch carried from the one and only once did he punch it in.
Games frequently come down to one play. And the play to call is to put the ball in the hands of what got you there. For the Seahawks, that was Lynch. There's plenty of reason to blame Wilson for throwing a bad pass -- but the coaches blew that call.

Quit your whining. Your team lost. Lol. Go away now. The game is OVER.
You're a complete mental case. :cuckoo: As already stated, I'm not a fan of either team.

Oh, I'm a mental case? :lol: Listen up mister, I AM a fan. Here you are, claiming to be not a fan of either team but still here bitching a WEEK after the game is already over and the winner declared, and you have the nerve to call others a "mental case?" :finger3: I think it's clear who is the mental case here, and it is not me. Lol.
What a pity, you're unhinged too. :cuckoo: For me to be "bitching" would require me to have a stake, of which, I have none. What I am doing, as not a fan of either team, is presenting my unbiased opinion. Something you're not capable of since you are a fan.
 
Seattle's "breakdown" was when Jeramy Lane broke his wrist being tackled after intercepting Brady on the Patriots first drive. We were forced to play Therin(or whateverthefuckhisdumbassnameis) and he almost single handedly put the Patriots back in the game. With Sherman, Chancellor and Thomas playing with serious injuries there just were not enough healthy bodies to go around in the secondary. Brady rightly picked on Therin because he was the weak link. The move Julian Edelman put on Therin for the Patriots go ahead TD just about made me physically sick. No healthy member of the LOB would have allowed THAT completion. It wasn't a "breakdown" of the entire Seahawk defense. It was a substitute that had no business being in the game.

No excuses...We lost fair and square. But at times you appear to have very little football knowledge and just post nonsense to rattle people's cages with weak factual references and innuendo.

You are saying keys injuries were on defensive team. Yet, the defensive didn't breakdown? There was a breakdown somewhere. The interception occurred in the first quarter the third quarter the Pats were shut down. But they didn't breakdown when the Patriots were picking them apart? They what? Got out played? Made mental mistakes? What do you call the fourth quarter defensive team not holding New England out of the end zone, twice. I would really like to know.

14 points scored in under six minutes for a defensive team that did not allow 16 points on average for an entire game. If the defensive team didn't breakdown, what did they do? 11 players could not keep the other 11 players out of the end zone twice. Had Seattle not gotten to the one had Seattle had not gotten the miracle catch and lost, would you not have blamed a defense that could not hold the lead in the fourth quarter?

It's a team sport, and Seattle's depth issue was exposed. Your bias toward Seattle seems to cloud your acceptance of the facts. The fact is Seattle's "best defense of all time," showed no real depth, not like great defenses of the past like the Steelers, the Bears and the Ravens.

I see 32 NFL teams, not one. I don't let bias cloud my mind for wins or losses. New England was damn lucky to win a game that they outplayed in three out of four quarters. The defensive team broke down. It's pretty plain for most objective people.

I pointed out the "breakdown". Maybe if you read more slowly and sound out the big words the facts will become more clear..

Seattle didn't have any huge depth issue to speak of..at least none that could have been dealt with deep into the playoffs.

Three out of the four starting DBs were playing with SIGNIFICANT injuries then Lane broke his wrist in N E's first drive of the game. There were two major injuries encountered in the previous game with GB. Thomas dislocated his shoulder and Sherman sustained ligament damage to his elbow. Chancellor received a knee bruise and tendon damage on second to last day of practice preceding SB.

There is no way for a team to prepare for the level of injuries Seattle sustained nor keep enough players on a 53 man roster to compensate for the loss or degradation of players of the level of a Thomas, Chancellor or Sherman. Lane's broken wrist was the Camel that broke the Hair's back leaving the Seahawks highly vulnerable to a passing surgeon such as Brady to pick apart. Therin is a gifted special teams player but just better than average at CB. Byron Maxwell was moved to the Nickle position after Lane's injury. He normally plays opposite Sherman but with the injured Starters was needed to help those players provide pressure from the middle of the field depending on what direction the Pat's receivers were deployed.

Lane normally played the little used Nickle position because the LOB usually required no extra help. That changed after GB. The Nickle became more important with the injuries to Chancellor, Thomas and Sherman.

I honestly believe that if the GB game injuries and Chancellors freak collision in practice AND Lane's broken wrist hadn't occurred Seattle would have mopped the field with the Patriots. But that's football. Like I said "No excuses".

Believe what you need to believe.

The Hawks defense was not deep enough to cover their injuries and got beat in the fourth.

Injuries or not, no excuses. Could the game had turned out differently? Yep, the pats could have touched Seattle in the first half, but it didn't happen.

You are giving the fact the DBs were injured as a reason, is an excuse.
Maybe you don't understand what "no excuses" really means.


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The Patriots did play great in the 4th quarter. No doubt. That's what they do. That doesn't erase the fact that the Seahawks put themselves into a position to win the game and made a call so stupid, it will likely be remembered as the worst call in Super Bowl history.

It's possible that it was the worst call, but that seems pretty unlikely. It wasn't THAT bad a call. There is sound reasoning behind it (trying to make sure they would have 3 tries at the end zone, including the possibility of 2 runs on 3rd and 4th down if they so chose), it's not as though the call was so completely outrageous that no one could ever imagine it.
I could agree with that had the Seahawks not had a RB like Marshawn Lynch in their backfield.
 
The game should never had come down to one play. Seattle let New England back into a game. The Seattle defense, was terrible in the fourth quarter, they had a huge breakdown and the Patriots scored 14 points inside of six minutes.

The Seattle defense was a big missing ingredient in the fourth, Brady made it look easy against the league's best D.

The one yard throw was a way to either score or go incomplete and stop the clock. Then Lynch would have two plays to punch it in and if not the first play, call a time out and run a third play. The should,have had three chances to punch it in. It was not a given that Lynch would have ran it in. Five times this season Lynch carried from the one and only once did he punch it in.
Games frequently come down to one play. And the play to call is to put the ball in the hands of what got you there. For the Seahawks, that was Lynch. There's plenty of reason to blame Wilson for throwing a bad pass -- but the coaches blew that call.

Quit your whining. Your team lost. Lol. Go away now. The game is OVER.
You're a complete mental case. :cuckoo: As already stated, I'm not a fan of either team.

Oh, I'm a mental case? :lol: Listen up mister, I AM a fan. Here you are, claiming to be not a fan of either team but still here bitching a WEEK after the game is already over and the winner declared, and you have the nerve to call others a "mental case?" :finger3: I think it's clear who is the mental case here, and it is not me. Lol.
What a pity, you're unhinged too. :cuckoo: For me to be "bitching" would require me to have a stake, of which, I have none. What I am doing, as not a fan of either team, is presenting my unbiased opinion. Something you're not capable of since you are a fan.

I don't believe you aren't a fan, for one thing. You wouldn't have been posting here so much if truly didn't care. :cuckoo:
 
Games frequently come down to one play. And the play to call is to put the ball in the hands of what got you there. For the Seahawks, that was Lynch. There's plenty of reason to blame Wilson for throwing a bad pass -- but the coaches blew that call.

Quit your whining. Your team lost. Lol. Go away now. The game is OVER.
You're a complete mental case. :cuckoo: As already stated, I'm not a fan of either team.

Oh, I'm a mental case? :lol: Listen up mister, I AM a fan. Here you are, claiming to be not a fan of either team but still here bitching a WEEK after the game is already over and the winner declared, and you have the nerve to call others a "mental case?" :finger3: I think it's clear who is the mental case here, and it is not me. Lol.
What a pity, you're unhinged too. :cuckoo: For me to be "bitching" would require me to have a stake, of which, I have none. What I am doing, as not a fan of either team, is presenting my unbiased opinion. Something you're not capable of since you are a fan.

I don't believe you aren't a fan, for one thing. You wouldn't have been posting here so much if truly didn't care. :cuckoo:
Do you really think what you believe matters? :lmao: You've already convinced me you're an unhinged mental case.

Oh, and in case you didn't notice, I even pointed out how great the Patriots played to score 2 TD's in the 4th quarter against one of NFL's best defenses. In fact, I went even further than that by commending them for being that kind of team. They're that good. That sounds like I'm a Seahawk fan to you, right?

But that's ok, you just keep stewing in your unhinged mental case world. If nothing else, it provides me entertainment.
 
You are saying keys injuries were on defensive team. Yet, the defensive didn't breakdown? There was a breakdown somewhere. The interception occurred in the first quarter the third quarter the Pats were shut down. But they didn't breakdown when the Patriots were picking them apart? They what? Got out played? Made mental mistakes? What do you call the fourth quarter defensive team not holding New England out of the end zone, twice. I would really like to know.

14 points scored in under six minutes for a defensive team that did not allow 16 points on average for an entire game. If the defensive team didn't breakdown, what did they do? 11 players could not keep the other 11 players out of the end zone twice. Had Seattle not gotten to the one had Seattle had not gotten the miracle catch and lost, would you not have blamed a defense that could not hold the lead in the fourth quarter?

It's a team sport, and Seattle's depth issue was exposed. Your bias toward Seattle seems to cloud your acceptance of the facts. The fact is Seattle's "best defense of all time," showed no real depth, not like great defenses of the past like the Steelers, the Bears and the Ravens.

I see 32 NFL teams, not one. I don't let bias cloud my mind for wins or losses. New England was damn lucky to win a game that they outplayed in three out of four quarters. The defensive team broke down. It's pretty plain for most objective people.

I pointed out the "breakdown". Maybe if you read more slowly and sound out the big words the facts will become more clear..

Seattle didn't have any huge depth issue to speak of..at least none that could have been dealt with deep into the playoffs.

Three out of the four starting DBs were playing with SIGNIFICANT injuries then Lane broke his wrist in N E's first drive of the game. There were two major injuries encountered in the previous game with GB. Thomas dislocated his shoulder and Sherman sustained ligament damage to his elbow. Chancellor received a knee bruise and tendon damage on second to last day of practice preceding SB.

There is no way for a team to prepare for the level of injuries Seattle sustained nor keep enough players on a 53 man roster to compensate for the loss or degradation of players of the level of a Thomas, Chancellor or Sherman. Lane's broken wrist was the Camel that broke the Hair's back leaving the Seahawks highly vulnerable to a passing surgeon such as Brady to pick apart. Therin is a gifted special teams player but just better than average at CB. Byron Maxwell was moved to the Nickle position after Lane's injury. He normally plays opposite Sherman but with the injured Starters was needed to help those players provide pressure from the middle of the field depending on what direction the Pat's receivers were deployed.

Lane normally played the little used Nickle position because the LOB usually required no extra help. That changed after GB. The Nickle became more important with the injuries to Chancellor, Thomas and Sherman.

I honestly believe that if the GB game injuries and Chancellors freak collision in practice AND Lane's broken wrist hadn't occurred Seattle would have mopped the field with the Patriots. But that's football. Like I said "No excuses".

Believe what you need to believe.

The Hawks defense was not deep enough to cover their injuries and got beat in the fourth.

Injuries or not, no excuses. Could the game had turned out differently? Yep, the pats could have touched Seattle in the first half, but it didn't happen.

You are giving the fact the DBs were injured as a reason, is an excuse.
Maybe you don't understand what "no excuses" really means.


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The Patriots did play great in the 4th quarter. No doubt. That's what they do. That doesn't erase the fact that the Seahawks put themselves into a position to win the game and made a call so stupid, it will likely be remembered as the worst call in Super Bowl history.

It's possible that it was the worst call, but that seems pretty unlikely. It wasn't THAT bad a call. There is sound reasoning behind it (trying to make sure they would have 3 tries at the end zone, including the possibility of 2 runs on 3rd and 4th down if they so chose), it's not as though the call was so completely outrageous that no one could ever imagine it.
I could agree with that had the Seahawks not had a RB like Marshawn Lynch in their backfield.

They could have had Christian Okoye in the backfield and I still think there is some sound reasoning behind the decision. It isn't something I agree with, I think Carroll overthought the situation, but the difference between a pass on second down so that they feel sure of at least an opportunity to run on third and fourth and just running on second is not so great. It was, I agree, a bad call, but not a horrible one.
 

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