I blame Palin

[Caligirl]

I don't blame Palin. Sure, she was under qualified to be a potential president, and was woefully uniformed on national and international issues.

But, McCain was the jackass that picked her. Without vetting evidently.

That's the one and only job of a presidential nominee. To vette a qualified VP candidate.

McCain decided to take the low road, and make a rash decision to put a token, unqualified woman on the ticket.

He's the jackass. He's the one that gets the blame for being a moron.

I would really *love* to know the thinking in his mind, and the discussions that led to that pick.

It was so out of character. Of course, I assume certain things, like he wanted to rally the base. But I am so curious for specifics, like did he pick her truly believing she was qualified? etc. We'll never know what he was thinking, or what his aides advised him, but I wish we could.

 

[Caligirl]

Why do you think in every picture you saw of him at a rally or just walking somewhere near the end, Liberman was right next to him. He never wanted her and she ended up making him look like an idiot.

Oooh - good observation.

 

[Ravi]

I would really *love* to know the thinking in his mind, and the discussions that led to that pick.

It was so out of character. Of course, I assume certain things, like he wanted to rally the base. But I am so curious for specifics, like did he pick her truly believing she was qualified? etc. We'll never know what he was thinking, or what his aides advised him, but I wish we could.

IMO, she was used like bait. Bait for the social conservatives, and bait to attract former Hillary supporters. Too bad for him that he thought women would vote for her simply because she was a woman.

 

[Tech_Esq]

It is true that Palin has political rock-star qualities and her views that the 'good old boy' system of American politics has got to be relegated to the history books as a bad chapter are welcome, but until Sara proves that she truly tolerates her American neighbors of all lifestyles and beliefs, she will never attract the oh-so important moderate vote in a national election and she will be forever relegated to local office or punditry on Fox 'News'.

Extremism in America is over, provided we educate our young.

-Joe

She said she was tolerant and I take her at her word. The left has slandered and besmirched her like a pack of wild animals. Not since Judge Bork has the left put on such an unbecoming and despicable display of character assassination. If the left were capable of it, they should feel completely embarrassed by being associated with such scurrilous hate-mongering.

 

[Tech_Esq]

IMO, she was used like bait. Bait for the social conservatives, and bait to attract former Hillary supporters. Too bad for him that he thought women would vote for her simply because she was a woman.

** Begin Sarcasm ** Right, cuz the most stupidly simplistic answer is usually the correct one. ** End Sarcasm **

 

[Jennifer.Bush]

that Moral Minority/christian/religous Right Bullshit Is Over/finished. This Country Is Liberal.

A Lot Of People Want To Be Conservative For One Reason Or Another, But Ultimately They Are Liberal. They Want Stem Cell, Pot Legalized, To Give Gays Equal Rights, Etc.

They May Not Want All Of These Things, Which Is How The Gop Divided Us, But They Want At Least Some Of These Things.

Ps. The Nra Is A Radical Organization That Most People Don't Relate Too. Even Their Members, If They Thought It Through, Would Not Be Ok With What The Nra Wants. They Want Unfettered Gun Rights. They Want To Pump Guns Into Our Cities Without Knowing Who's Getting Those Guns.

But The Nra Scares Normal Citizens Into Thinking The Liberals Want To Take Their Guns Away. And That Is Not The Case.

Not Only All This, But The Nra Probably Makes A Shit Load On Defense Spending. That's Why They Are In Bed With The Gop. That's Why The Gop Uses The Nra.

I Heard An Ex Conservative Explaining This On The Radio Last Night.

He Also Explained How/why The Media Never Talked About Charles Keating Or Any Of Mccain's Pastor Problems. He Said The Gop Always Stays On Offense. So If Keating Gets Brought Up, They Ignore It And Start Talking About Rezko.

The Gop Have Run Out Of Tricks. We Know Your Next Move Before You Even Do It. Bastards.

Ps. Mccain Was Great Last Night. His Audience, A Bunch Of Racist Sore Losers. Lol. I Hope They Treat Obama Better Than They Did Clinton.

This Country Is Not Liberal, If So Why Is Gay Marriage Banned In C.a

 

[sealybobo]

This Country Is Not Liberal, If So Why Is Gay Marriage Banned In C.a

Why did stem cell and marijuana pass in MI?

And assisted suicide?

And liberals gained seats in both houses

And voted for a black man with a middle name Hussain!

 

[Jennifer.Bush]

why Did Stem Cell And Marijuana Pass In Mi?

And Assisted Suicide?

And Liberals Gained Seats In Both Houses

And Voted For A Black Man With A Middle Name Hussain!

Hold UP You You Have To Be A Liberal To Vote For A Black Guy?

I'm Latina And Voted For Mccain, Am'i A Racist

 

[sealybobo]

Hold UP You You Have To Be A Liberal To Vote For A Black Guy?

I'm Latina And Voted For Mccain, Am'i A Racist

Not everyone that voted for McCain is a racist lady.

Not everyone that voted for him was rich either.

And not everyone that voted for him was stupid.

But you are one, two or three of these things. You figure out which ones.

 

[del]

Why did stem cell and marijuana pass in MI?

lots of stoners and retards in MI. i guess they wanna keep one group happy and reduce the size of the other one.

And assisted suicide?

see above. i've been to michigan. nuff said.

And liberals gained seats in both houses

no, democrats did.

And voted for a black man with a middle name Hussain!

no more remarkable a middle name than milhaus, IMO.

he's black?

 

[Jennifer.Bush]

not Everyone That Voted For Mccain Is A Racist Lady.

Not Everyone That Voted For Him Was Rich Either.

And Not Everyone That Voted For Him Was Stupid.

But You Are One, Two Or Three Of These Things. You Figure Out Which Ones.

The Not Rich Person, Is What I'am

 

[Article 15]

Hold UP You You Have To Be A Liberal To Vote For A Black Guy?

I'm Latina And Voted For Mccain, Am'i A Racist

No, but it goes to show that your previous comment about the gay marriage ban in CA was idiotic.

 

[jillian]

Forget Palin, McCain was a bad choice. Had they chosen Ron Paul, I think he'd be our next president.

Talk about fantasy... he couldn't even get your own party, much less the rest of the country.

 

[CrimsonWhite]

Forget Palin, McCain was a bad choice. Had they chosen Ron Paul, I think he'd be our next president.

You have lost your fucking mind. McCain was the only choice. None of the other candidates would challenged Obama as well.

 

[ABikerSailor]

You know, to figure out if Palin was bait for the Hillary Dems, look at something.......

Before McStupid tapped Palin, there were LOTS of stories about Hillary Dems that were not going to vote for Obama because they were pissed Hillary didn't get the nod. It doesn't take a rocket scientist (or a McCain aide), to see that this was a blatant attempt to pander to the Hillary voters.

However.......instead of picking a smart woman from around DC, he goes one step farther and (keeping his maverick tendencies) picks someone from way outside that nobody had ever heard of. He probably figured there wouldn't be enough time for the press to dig anything up on her (after all, Alaska is a long way away, and not many people think about it down here in the 48).

He didn't figure out that the media has gotten faster, and that since McInsane didn't have the smarts or the balls to properly vet her, the media would, and they did.

Nope.....McCain's failure belongs 1/3 to him, 1/3 to his staff, and 1/3 to Palin.

If she had actually paid attention to what was going on here in the lower 48, rather than staying in her own little world of AK, she may have been able to help more.

Thank G-d she was too stupid.

 

[Luc1]

She said she was tolerant and I take her at her word. The left has slandered and besmirched her like a pack of wild animals. Not since Judge Bork has the left put on such an unbecoming and despicable display of character assassination. If the left were capable of it, they should feel completely embarrassed by being associated with such scurrilous hate-mongering.

From NYT: Near-flawless run from start to finish - The New York Times :

"For more than a week, Ms. Palin’s star rose, along with Mr. McCain’s poll numbers, as Mr. Obama’s campaign seemed uncertain how to respond. Seeking to avoid the appearance of coming on too strong, the campaign stood by as she accused Mr. Obama of “palling around with terrorists.” Democrats on Capitol Hill were as nervous as they had been all year.

Mr. Margolis, the advertising strategist, got an earful when he was dispatched to give a briefing at the weekly caucus of Senate Democratic leaders.

“I said, ‘I’m just asking everybody to be patient for a couple of weeks,’ and there was a groan that went through part of the room, and it was, ‘Don’t sit back and allow this race to get away from you guys,’ ” Mr. Margolis said.

As had been their way so often, Mr. Obama’s aides did not change course because of the second-guessing. They were confident that with the selection of Ms. Palin, who had little national or international experience, Mr. McCain would ultimately confuse voters who for months had heard his argument that experience mattered most.

“I was trying to communicate pretty clearly that nobody was sitting back, but we believed that we had a strategy that was sound, that there was now real dissonance between the McCain message of August and the McCain message of September,” Mr. Margolis said.

Indeed, as Ms. Palin began to suffer a variety of wounds — poor interview performances with Charlie Gibson of ABC and Katie Couric of CBS, a brutal impersonation by Tina Fey on “Saturday Night Live” — they kept their distance and let it play out."

To summarize: you're wrong. The Democratic Politicians didn't go after Palin; movie stars, news anchors, and other Republicans criticized Palin. And, the questions Gibson and Couric asked her weren't at all "Gotcha Journalism" either.

 

[sealybobo]

The Not Rich Person, Is What I'am

That's funny.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Look I am a registered Libertarian but I know what people are saying. Its time to point your finger and someone and I have been saying for months that Palin was a bad choice. When gen. Colin Powel based his endorsment entirely on the VP choice for Mccain, thats when it started to hit Republicans that maybe he made a mistake.


Either way, my point is this. As many conservatives have told me today and yesterday, If Sarah Palin is what the Republican party has to look foward to, if she is the shiny beacon of the future for this party......well they are in alot more trouble than we all thought.

Obama, the right choice for 2008. America has spoken, and Barrack Obama is our new president. Accept it, if not......im going to annoy you with the stupid "your unpatriotic" line that has been used on me since 2001 when I began my own personal anti-bush movement.

ROFLMNAO... Man, Palin is the ONLY REASON McCain was even IN the race.

McCain is a fascist and Hussein is a Marxist... the analogical equivilent of a choice between a bowl of shit and a shit sandwich.

Palin simply added a lovely salad...

 

[Freedomlover]

For the past eight years America has been reasonably safe from those in our country who believe that government is the be all, end all, all things to all people. Though President Bush has strayed from the founding principles of the nation from time to time, he lowered our taxes, protected our nation, had a better unemployment rate on average than Bill Clinton, stock markets flourished more so than under Clinton, interest rates have been historically low and expanded freedom to millions in oppressed nations. Pretty good record Mr. President!

Now that Democrats have gained control of our government it is time to go back on FREEDOM watch again. The problems the socialists who won Tuesday had with Mr. Bush is that he stood in the way of the socialist agenda and put them on delay. It has been shameful the way they have treated him especially in the past four years since he won just over 51% of the vote, only about 1.5 percentage points less than Obama. Now they expect us to fall lockstep in place behind a socialist president and Congress? Not going to happen! I cherish freedom which is the founding principle of this nation more than anything the socialists have to offer. Obama is going to have to prove that he is not a socialist since all indications are that he is. He will have to show that he is willing to stand up to the socialists in Congress and stop their insane plans before I, or any of the 56 million people that voted for McCain, will throw much, if any support to him over the next four years.

The ball is in his court. If he and his party continue to take us away from our heritage of freedom that is rightly ours it will become the main issue in the mid-term elections and the next presidential election. Freedom from government is our right, it is up to us to protect it for ultimately in this country the base of power is in the hands of the people. If you value freedom more than anything the nanny state has to offer, then regardless of party it is up to us to make our voices heard and say enough is enough! We want to be FREE!

 

[Tech_Esq]

From NYT: Near-flawless run from start to finish - The New York Times :

"For more than a week, Ms. Palin’s star rose, along with Mr. McCain’s poll numbers, as Mr. Obama’s campaign seemed uncertain how to respond. Seeking to avoid the appearance of coming on too strong, the campaign stood by as she accused Mr. Obama of “palling around with terrorists.” Democrats on Capitol Hill were as nervous as they had been all year.

Mr. Margolis, the advertising strategist, got an earful when he was dispatched to give a briefing at the weekly caucus of Senate Democratic leaders.

“I said, ‘I’m just asking everybody to be patient for a couple of weeks,’ and there was a groan that went through part of the room, and it was, ‘Don’t sit back and allow this race to get away from you guys,’ ” Mr. Margolis said.

As had been their way so often, Mr. Obama’s aides did not change course because of the second-guessing. They were confident that with the selection of Ms. Palin, who had little national or international experience, Mr. McCain would ultimately confuse voters who for months had heard his argument that experience mattered most.

“I was trying to communicate pretty clearly that nobody was sitting back, but we believed that we had a strategy that was sound, that there was now real dissonance between the McCain message of August and the McCain message of September,” Mr. Margolis said.

Indeed, as Ms. Palin began to suffer a variety of wounds — poor interview performances with Charlie Gibson of ABC and Katie Couric of CBS, a brutal impersonation by Tina Fey on “Saturday Night Live” — they kept their distance and let it play out."

To summarize: you're wrong. The Democratic Politicians didn't go after Palin; movie stars, news anchors, and other Republicans criticized Palin. And, the questions Gibson and Couric asked her weren't at all "Gotcha Journalism" either.

Nope, actually, you're wrong. I said the left, not her opponents. That comprises the left-wing-in-the-tank-for-Obama so-called media. And, no, they aren't smart enough to do much "gotcha" journalism, it was mostly just editing.

Joe Biden was out on the stump saying the most moronic things ever uttered by a candidate, but did he get hammered by the media? FUCK NO! Now we are stuck with the biggest dumb-ass ever elected to the position. He makes Dan Quayle look like a rocket scientist! And the left? Still obsessed with Sarah Palin. The election is over, and they are still talking about her. WHY?

There is only one reason. They are scared as fuck of Sarah Palin. The more they continue to attack her, the more obvious it is. The more vitriol they spew about her, more clear it is that they recognize her as threat. So, keep it up. Keep calling her stupid. That's the typical avenue of attack for a lib. Attack the other person as "stupid." Same old shit for the last 30 or more years. I've seen no evidence of this stupidity. She may not be schooled up on every aspect of policy, but that can be easily learned. She has the important part. She has the ideological framework built. She merely needs to apply the framework to the facts of the issue to arrive in the neighborhood of the appropriate response. Unlike Biden, she is then smart enough to make the correct choice.