Howard Stern is fired

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    I was hanging out at the yahoo boards under the news articles when i read the news about Howard Stern basically being fired and losing alot of airtime across the nation. It was an amazing argument. The Bush haters were yelling at how there is some big Republican conspiracy to take him off the air because he is Anti Bush. This despite the fact that he is losing raitings and losing Clear Channel nearly 2 million a year in fines for his program. (Probably in part because he is competing with Glenn Beck)

    I think the funniest thing i saw about it was that people were yelling that if we dont like Howard Stern we just turn him off. Yet these people havent figured out is that is what we have been doing! That is why his ratings are low and that is why he is off the area because the people are choosing not to listen to him.

    Anyway I figured this would be an interesting topic to bring up since it covers the topics of censorship vs the first ammendment and the market of ideas. Why is conservative talk so popular? Why is it beating out Shows like Stern? Any thoughts?
     
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    Bring back Opie & Anthony!
     
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    Howard Stern fired because he is anti Bush?
    Howard Stern I need to remind these people has been fired from almost every radio talk show position he has held since his NBC days in New York.
    I lived in New York back then and remember how vulgar he was then. Nothing has changed with him over the years, he hasn't moved on to anything new and exciting. He was a big deal then and continued on a rollar coaster with the same old jokes and vulgar talk.
    I tuned him out then just as I have tuned him out now well over twenty years later.

    Howards jokes and show conversations have been based on woman and men who are willing to degrade themselves before him and his audience. So what has changed over the years? Howard was fired again. Big deal.

    Of course we can blame it on everyone else but Howard himself, heaven forbid anyone should take responsibilty for themselves. People are fired everyday in this country for various reasons, myself included. People are fired for acts they did not commit.

    To those who again complain and find the most obsurd reasons to name call on Bush I advise to get on with your life. I know there is more out there for you than this.

    As far as Howard? He will probibly and finally fade away into our memories.
     
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    From what I've read thus far this isn't as bad for Howard as everyone is making it out to be.

    Howard wasn't fired. He was suspended by Clear Channel and this has only affected 6 of his stations (Rochester, Orlando, Miami, San Diego, Pittsburgh and Louisville).

    He is mainly heard as a part of Infinity Broadcasting.
     
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    Many months ago, Howard has talked about leaving, he had many years and knew it was time to go. I don't think he got fired, this was all planned. I liked him, but hated him too, couldn't deal with the wishing of those to suffer a cancer crap.
     
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    Only banned from 6 stations huh? Well thats news to me. The way the people on the message board were reacting it was like the end of free speech in America. The article didnt really say how many stations he was losing. just that he was refusing quite a few.

    I also think it was interesting that the same people who were whining about Howard losing his popularity were the same ones whining that Rush Limbaugh should be taken off the air.
     
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    Conservative talk radio is so popular because it's as Rush says " on the cutting edge of societal evolution." He is correct. Howard Stern's claim to fame is being on the cutting edge of public shame. Stern and his dysfuntional coterie of gutter humor hooligans are about as exciting as spackle. Republican conspiracy? Hardly.
    Bush has enough on his plate without micromanaging the fcc about Howard Stern.
     
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    LOL..
    Ditto heads can be such desperate followers.

    Rush claimed that Donovan McNabb was an overrated QB and that media was jumping on his band wagon because McNabb is black. He said that in the midst of the Eagles losing their first 2 games (0-2) in the season.

    For the early part of the 2003 season, McNabb looked not bad, but horrible. On the other hand, this does not discount some of the sensational play that McNabb demonstrated for the success of the Eagles for the previous 2 years, which got them to the conference finals. Obviously, football is a team game, where success is truly measured by the efforts of the whole. Given that, there have been numerous games where McNabb practically carried the team on his shoulders. For example, when their team had running back issues, McNabb filled the void by putting up rushing yards that rivalled running backs in the league. Without that additional run threat, the Eagles would've been too one dimensional. He did this while still being a high quality passer, as well.

    Even with an 0-2 start, the Eagles, led by McNabb put forth an amazing win streak, which put them at the top of the whole NFC!!


    Some short sighted people might make the argument that yeah he got them to the conference finals, but then he lost.

    Does that mean Dan Marino sucks and is overrated, since he never won a Super Bowl? Does that mean Peyton Manning and Steve McNair were overrated as well, since they lost in the playoffs? Does that mean Elway was a failed quarterback, except for the fact that he benefitted from outstanding rushing stats from Terrel Davis for the last 2 years of Elway's career?

    Obviously, winning the Super Bowl is the main goal. But, at the beginning of the season, if you asked any team in the league that if you made it to the Conference Final game, would you consider that to be a successful season... every team would say yes.


    Then, when McNabb got back on track and winning games and became successful again. As is so typical of Rush, instead of admitting that he was flat out wrong, he tried to spin it and say, McNabb's newfound success must be due to his idiotic, racial based, criticism. And the ditto heads follow suit.
     
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    Get real, knucklehead!

    His season stats were average. His career stats are average AT BEST. Year in and year out he finishes in the middle of the pack. His career stats are equivalent to that of Kordell Stewart or Jon Kitna. He is an AVERAGE QB on a good team.

    His career QB rating is 79.3 - AVERAGE
    Career completion percentage - 57% - AVERAGE
    Average passing yds per game - 186 - AVERAGE
    Yards per attempt - 6.2 - AVERAGE
    Average rushing per game - 32 - AVERAGE

    He doesn't even make up for it with wins!

    15 QB's finished with a higher rating than him this year. A couple of the names:
    Trent Green
    Jake Plummer
    Aaron Brooks
    Jon Kitna
    Matt Hasselbeck

    13 QB's finished with more passing yards than him
    18 QB's finished with a better completion percentage
    18 QB's finished with more yards per game average

    I'm sure you'll say "what about his rushing yards". First off, he's a QB, not a RB. Secondly, he was 5th best in the NFL as a rushing QB.

    What's the most important thing in the NFL? Scoring touchdowns!

    16 QB's threw for more TD's than Donovan and 7 ran for more.

    Face the facts, DONOVAN IS AN AVERAGE QB AT BEST, YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT!

    Give it up, you'll lose this one badly.
     
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    Donovan's best year rushing was in 2000 when he rushed for 629 yards, hardly comparable to a RB. He fumbled the ball 7 times that year and finished with an abysmal QB rating of 77.8 and a 58% completion percentage.

    Not RB numbers and FAR from a "high quality" passer. I'd say it was pretty AVERAGE.
     

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