How would you feel if...

[Immanuel]

Mostly targets of the liberal left who are out to remove guns from the hands of law-abiding citizens,

How? Targets how? If the targets are the ones with the guns, who's shooting?

It also made gun owners targets of theives looking to steal guns to further their underhanded dealings.

Where's any evidence of that? That's been a speculation by gun nuts but ...where's the evidence?

So, in fact, the stupid broad has actually aided and abetted criminals.

Maybe that is what she should be charged with.

Immie

?? What are you talking about? What "stupid broad"?

The stupid broad is the woman who ran the story, the publisher/editor of the Journal.

As for evidence? Why else did this stupid broad invade those people's privacy? Whether or not it was her intention, it is a consequence of her actions.

As for who's doing the shooting? Well, you are assuming that the theives are stupid enough to break in when someone is home. I'm not making that assumption.

Immie

 

[Pogo]

Mostly targets of the liberal left who are out to remove guns from the hands of law-abiding citizens,

How? Targets how? If the targets are the ones with the guns, who's shooting?



Where's any evidence of that? That's been a speculation by gun nuts but ...where's the evidence?

So, in fact, the stupid broad has actually aided and abetted criminals.

Maybe that is what she should be charged with.

Immie

?? What are you talking about? What "stupid broad"?

The stupid broad is the woman who ran the story, the publisher/editor of the Journal.

As for evidence? Why else did this stupid broad invade those people's privacy? Whether or not it was her intention, it is a consequence of her actions.

As for who's doing the shooting? Well, you are assuming that the theives are stupid enough to break in when someone is home. I'm not making that assumption.

Immie

You threw me for a loop. I thought the newspaper ran the listings. Whatever.

I don't know if you came in late to this story but what they printed was already public record. So "invasion of privacy" doesn't exist. As for the estranged spouse scenario, we covered that a while back too, which is why I didn't copy that part of the quote: anyone who's got a restraining order should have their address protected by it. Finally the thieves breaking in to whichever houses is still all speculation. It's not reality. Speculation isn't valid as a cause-and-effect when no such thing has happened. Theories of what might happen are a dime a dozen.

So my question still stands unmolested: given that the lists of CC permit holders is already public record, and given that the ownership of firearms is the bee's knees, the ultimate patriot porn, the sacrosanct culmination of all that is Merka ..... why should the holders of said firearms be ashamed of it?

 

[LibertyLemming]

You're asking about why an emotion exist. Why not ask about why unicorns shit rainbows?

You should ask why supposedly free people have to register anything with the government, guns, cars, boats, your location from your cellphone, you're house, dinner reservations, when you can get married, etc... Not to mention why you have to pay a government tribute each time you do or we lock you in a cage like some sort of rabid animal.

 

[gallantwarrior]

your name and address were to be published in the local newspaper?

Apparently The Journal News in NY has decided it was appropriate to publish the names and addresses, including an interactive map, of all registered gun owners in Westchester and Rockland counties. I wonder whether that newspaper will have the balls to publish the consequences of such a violation of privacy?

NY Newspaper Intimidates Gun Owners By Publishing Names & Addresses :: Minute Men News

Newspaper Publishes Gun Owners’ Names and Addresses - ABC News

http://www.lohud.com/interactive/ar...1011/Map-Where-gun-permits-your-neighborhood-

Remember when the media just reported the news and stayed out of the politics of the news?

Payback!


Newspaper That Published Gun-Owner Addresses Gets Its Staff's Info Outed - Yahoo! News

really? i seem to recall ole ben frnaklin's papers being pretty political.

"Ole Ben Franklin's papers" were mostly editorial. He didn't claim to be reporting the news.

 

[gallantwarrior]

your name and address were to be published in the local newspaper?

Apparently The Journal News in NY has decided it was appropriate to publish the names and addresses, including an interactive map, of all registered gun owners in Westchester and Rockland counties. I wonder whether that newspaper will have the balls to publish the consequences of such a violation of privacy?

NY Newspaper Intimidates Gun Owners By Publishing Names & Addresses :: Minute Men News

Newspaper Publishes Gun Owners’ Names and Addresses - ABC News

http://www.lohud.com/interactive/ar...1011/Map-Where-gun-permits-your-neighborhood-

Remember when the media just reported the news and stayed out of the politics of the news?

Payback!

Once again ... "payback" requires that some wrong was committed in the first place.

So once again (third time at least, he said to the crickets), if having a gun permit is the nirvana panacea, the holy of holies, the ultimatoid empyrean Shangri-la of Elysiumetric rhapsodical orgasm .... why would you be ashamed to be associated with it?

If you find "payback" to be inappropriate, let's go with "reciprocity". It's all public record, non?

 

[Pogo]

You're asking about why an emotion exist. Why not ask about why unicorns shit rainbows?

- because that question makes no sense?
I'm not asking why emotions exist; I'm asking what is the reasoning there. The same question I'm always asking. Dreamy ain't the first to describe the publication of the newspaper's personnel as "payback", "revenge", etc, so I'm asking: what is so embarrassing about the original publication of gun owners' names that they take it as an affront? I asked that question over and over and over and got no answer. That indicates there isn't any, and that indicates the reasoning is nonexistent. And that's where I'm going.

Remember when the media just reported the news and stayed out of the politics of the news?

Payback!

Once again ... "payback" requires that some wrong was committed in the first place.

So once again (third time at least, he said to the crickets), if having a gun permit is the nirvana panacea, the holy of holies, the ultimatoid empyrean Shangri-la of Elysiumetric rhapsodical orgasm .... why would you be ashamed to be associated with it?

If you find "payback" to be inappropriate, let's go with "reciprocity". It's all public record, non?

That's fine. There's no judgement therein. Up to now what the newspaper did, even though public record, has been addressed as if it was a list of who went into the porn shop or who frequents the local brothel, as if it was something immoral.

Is it?

I mean usually it's flaunted like a badge of honour. What's the shame of being published?

 

[RoadVirus]

So my question still stands unmolested: given that the lists of CC permit holders is already public record, and given that the ownership of firearms is the bee's knees, the ultimate patriot porn, the sacrosanct culmination of all that is Merka ..... why should the holders of said firearms be ashamed of it?

It's all about PRIVACY.

 

[daveman]

Once again ... "payback" requires that some wrong was committed in the first place.

So once again (third time at least, he said to the crickets), if having a gun permit is the nirvana panacea, the holy of holies, the ultimatoid empyrean rhapsody of Elysiumetric rhapsodical orgasm .... why would you be ashamed to be associated with it?

I'm not sure why you think anyone is ashamed to be associated with it. The problem with this issue is that the bitch that printed it did so in order to make gun owners targets much like the asshole that posted the names of abortion doctors as wanted posters.

Immie

That's the first answer I've gotten to this in three days.

"Targets" ......of what?

The paper didn't pose these as "wanted posters" did it?

Interesting analogy though, since it was a gun that killed Dr. Tiller.

Really? A gun walked up to him and made itself go off?

Interesting.

Out here in the real world, killers kill people using a variety of inanimate tools.

 

[daveman]

You're asking about why an emotion exist. Why not ask about why unicorns shit rainbows?

You should ask why supposedly free people have to register anything with the government, guns, cars, boats, your location from your cellphone, you're house, dinner reservations, when you can get married, etc... Not to mention why you have to pay a government tribute each time you do or we lock you in a cage like some sort of rabid animal.

Statists believe government is the highest power in the universe, and must be loved and feared.

 

[Pogo]

I'm not sure why you think anyone is ashamed to be associated with it. The problem with this issue is that the bitch that printed it did so in order to make gun owners targets much like the asshole that posted the names of abortion doctors as wanted posters.

Immie

That's the first answer I've gotten to this in three days.

"Targets" ......of what?

The paper didn't pose these as "wanted posters" did it?

Interesting analogy though, since it was a gun that killed Dr. Tiller.

Really? A gun walked up to him and made itself go off?

Interesting.

Out here in the real world, killers kill people using a variety of inanimate tools.

Really? You see the words "a gun walked up" in my post?
See an optometrist. And then an English teacher.

Still no answer. What is it, three days now? Four?

 

[daveman]

That's the first answer I've gotten to this in three days.

"Targets" ......of what?

The paper didn't pose these as "wanted posters" did it?

Interesting analogy though, since it was a gun that killed Dr. Tiller.

Really? A gun walked up to him and made itself go off?

Interesting.

Out here in the real world, killers kill people using a variety of inanimate tools.

Really? You see the words "a gun walked up" in my post?
See an optometrist. And then an English teacher.

"...it was a gun that killed Dr. Tiller."

No, moron, A killer killed Dr. Tiller.

Still no answer. What is it, three days now? Four?

What are you whining about?

 

[Pogo]

Really? A gun walked up to him and made itself go off?

Interesting.

Out here in the real world, killers kill people using a variety of inanimate tools.

Really? You see the words "a gun walked up" in my post?
See an optometrist. And then an English teacher.

"...it was a gun that killed Dr. Tiller."

No, moron, A killer killed Dr. Tiller.

Still no answer. What is it, three days now? Four?

What are you whining about?

I gotta hand it to you (if your hands were free) -- few people have the courage to voluntarily act this stupid.

Let me know if you ever finish the ESL course. Until then you're a waste of time.

 

[daveman]

Really? You see the words "a gun walked up" in my post?
See an optometrist. And then an English teacher.

"...it was a gun that killed Dr. Tiller."

No, moron, A killer killed Dr. Tiller.

Still no answer. What is it, three days now? Four?

What are you whining about?

I gotta hand it to you (if your hands were free) -- few people have the courage to voluntarily act this stupid.

Let me know if you ever finish the ESL course. Until then you're a waste of time.

So, you said something extremely stupid...and it's MY fault.

 

[Pogo]

"...it was a gun that killed Dr. Tiller."

No, moron, A killer killed Dr. Tiller.

What are you whining about?

I gotta hand it to you (if your hands were free) -- few people have the courage to voluntarily act this stupid.

Let me know if you ever finish the ESL course. Until then you're a waste of time.

So, you said something extremely stupid...and it's MY fault.

 

[daveman]

I gotta hand it to you (if your hands were free) -- few people have the courage to voluntarily act this stupid.

Let me know if you ever finish the ESL course. Until then you're a waste of time.

So, you said something extremely stupid...and it's MY fault.

Kid, you're really outmatched here.

You really can't deny you said what you said. But you're trying!

 

[Pogo]

So, you said something extremely stupid...and it's MY fault.

Kid, you're really outmatched here.

You really can't deny you said what you said. But you're trying!

Well Edward Gunhands, I've been here two weeks now and getting a feel for who is here for actual debate and who is here just to troll and bury things so they won't get addressed. Congratulations, you made the cut and won a free trip to the Ignore List, so you can save your breath.

Now then, the question, still unanswered, was: given that the lists of CC permit holders is already public record, and given that the ownership of firearms is the bee's knees, the ultimate patriot porn, the sacrosanct culmination of all that is Merka, the nirvana panacea, the holy of holies, the ultimatoid empyrean Shangri-la of Elysiumetric rhapsodical orgasm ..... why are the holders of said firearms be ashamed to be on that list? Discuss.

 

[daveman]

Kid, you're really outmatched here.

You really can't deny you said what you said. But you're trying!

Well Edward Gunhands, I've been here two weeks now and getting a feel for who is here for actual debate and who is here just to troll and bury things so they won't get addressed. Congratulations, you made the cut and won a free trip to the Ignore List, so you can save your breath.

Man, you really hate it when your stupidity is pointed out, don't you?

Now then, the question, still unanswered, was: given that the lists of CC permit holders is already public record, and given that the ownership of firearms is the bee's knees, the ultimate patriot porn, the sacrosanct culmination of all that is Merka, the nirvana panacea, the holy of holies, the ultimatoid empyrean Shangri-la of Elysiumetric rhapsodical orgasm ..... why are the holders of said firearms be ashamed to be on that list? Discuss.

Dumbass. Who said anyone's ashamed to be on the list?

Oh, wait -- you've got me on Ignore.

Guess you don't want any discussion after all, do you? Your idea of "discussion" is "agree with me and tell me how smart I am, or I'll put you on Ignore!!"

 

[LibertyLemming]

Did you ever think theyre not ashamed but that enjoy some modicum of privacy which was lost when their addresses were posted for all to know without going through the effort themselves.

Either way, I'm sure it's not big of a deal. I'm not sure the author will be nominated for any Nobel or Pulitzer prizes any time soon but I could be wrong.

Assuming youre antigun the real question is why you feel the need to conscript the nation to your personal proclivities ?

 

[Pogo]

Did you ever think theyre not ashamed but that enjoy some modicum of privacy which was lost when their addresses were posted for all to know without going through the effort themselves.

Either way, I'm sure it's not big of a deal. I'm not sure the author will be nominated for any Nobel or Pulitzer prizes any time soon but I could be wrong.

Assuming youre antigun the real question is why you feel the need to conscript the nation to your personal proclivities ?

Hey, I'm just observing. The list the paper published is already public info, so I don't see a privacy issue, but what I'm observing is the revenge reaction when somebody else published the personal info of the paper's personnel. They all acted like the original posting of gun permits was letting out some kind of shameful secret, like it was a video of them skulking into a porn shop. So I'm asking where that sense of shame comes from. Because if you really were proud of it there would be no "retaliation".

It's a question of human psychology and whether people really say what they mean, and if not, what they do mean.

I think you're the first to actually address the question on its own merits. I think I brought it up at least three days ago. That time lapse tells me something too.

 

[Immanuel]

How? Targets how? If the targets are the ones with the guns, who's shooting?



Where's any evidence of that? That's been a speculation by gun nuts but ...where's the evidence?



?? What are you talking about? What "stupid broad"?

The stupid broad is the woman who ran the story, the publisher/editor of the Journal.

As for evidence? Why else did this stupid broad invade those people's privacy? Whether or not it was her intention, it is a consequence of her actions.

As for who's doing the shooting? Well, you are assuming that the theives are stupid enough to break in when someone is home. I'm not making that assumption.

Immie

You threw me for a loop. I thought the newspaper ran the listings. Whatever.

I don't know if you came in late to this story but what they printed was already public record. So "invasion of privacy" doesn't exist. As for the estranged spouse scenario, we covered that a while back too, which is why I didn't copy that part of the quote: anyone who's got a restraining order should have their address protected by it. Finally the thieves breaking in to whichever houses is still all speculation. It's not reality. Speculation isn't valid as a cause-and-effect when no such thing has happened. Theories of what might happen are a dime a dozen.

So my question still stands unmolested: given that the lists of CC permit holders is already public record, and given that the ownership of firearms is the bee's knees, the ultimate patriot porn, the sacrosanct culmination of all that is Merka ..... why should the holders of said firearms be ashamed of it?

Actually my understanding is that it required the Freedom of Information Act to get the information, something that just anyone i.e. a theif perusing the county courthouse would not have had easy access (if any at all) to. So, this stupid broad has as I said aided and abetted criminals in providing them with the information as to what homes have registered weapons.

Also, you have no idea whether or not such a thing has happened or if it will in the future. Neither one of us do. You can no more positively say it has not nor will it happen than I can say it has or will.

Secondly, whether or not a theif actually uses or even cares about the information is immaterial. She provided it to theives and liberals in general for her political agenda.

And finally, as has already been stated, they are not ashamed of having firearms. They are fearful of having been exposed as targets by a stupid broad who has literally put them in harm's way, just as those abortionists feared being made targets when their personal, not to mention highly public, names and addresses were posted on the internet. She recklessly endangered these law abiding individuals and should suffer the consequences of her actions.

Immie