How to separate them?

[shoshi]

El Salvador government has a war against the gangs such as MS13 now and Americans who fear some of the border crossings could be criminals running from the government crackdown may be right. But there are people fleeing to America from gang violence in countries like Honduras. So how do you separate real refugees from criminals? I guess immigration agents are trained to recognize gang tattoos things like that?

 

[Auld Phart]

Let God sort them out.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

El Salvador government has a war against the gangs such as MS13 now and Americans who fear some of the border crossings could be criminals running from the government crackdown may be right. But there are people fleeing to America from gang violence in countries like Honduras. So how do you separate real refugees from criminals? I guess immigration agents are trained to recognize gang tattoos things like that?

Gang violence doesn't mean you should qualify for asylum.

 

[LeroyDumonde]

The government should create a class of people known as outlaws, which applies to anyone in the country illegally. Outlaws have no recourse to US law. If they are sued, they automatically lose the case. If they're arrested they're automatically found guilty. If they're assaulted, robbed, raped, defrauded, enslaved, murdered, kidnapped, etc. then they government will ignore their plight.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

The government should create a class of people known as outlaws, which applies to anyone in the country illegally. Outlaws have no recourse to US law. If they are sued, they automatically lose the case. If they're arrested they're automatically found guilty. If they're assaulted, robbed, raped, defrauded, enslaved, murdered, kidnapped, etc. then they government will ignore their plight.

You don't much care for humans, do you?

 

[Unkotare]

The government should create a class of people known as outlaws, which applies to anyone in the country illegally. Outlaws have no recourse to US law. If they are sued, they automatically lose the case. If they're arrested they're automatically found guilty. If they're assaulted, robbed, raped, defrauded, enslaved, murdered, kidnapped, etc. then they government will ignore their plight.

The Constitution says:

 

[LeroyDumonde]

The Constitution says:

I didn't sign the Constitution.

 

[LeroyDumonde]

You don't much care for humans, do you?

Not the ones in this country illegally, or communists.

 

[Unkotare]

I didn't sign the Constitution.

Are you an American?

 

[LeroyDumonde]

Are you an American?

Yes. I still didn't sign it.

 

[Unkotare]

Yes. ....

.....then you live under its jurisdiction whether you like it or not. If you're really dissatisfied, go live in some other country.

 

[LeroyDumonde]

.....then you live under its jurisdiction whether you like it or not. If you're really dissatisfied, go live in some other country.

I'd rather munch popcorn and watch the whole thing collapse. Moving just puts me into a worse liberal shithole.

 

[Unkotare]

I'd rather munch popcorn and watch the whole thing collapse. Moving just puts me into a worse liberal shithole.

You don't deserve to be here. GTFO.

 

[AZrailwhale]

.....then you live under its jurisdiction whether you like it or not. If you're really dissatisfied, go live in some other country.

I've always felt that here should be a multiple tier system. Citizens should have full rights under the Constitution. Legal residents should have rights, but to a lesser extent. Illegal aliens should only have the right to be protected from abuse while in the process of being deported. Their due process would be limited to a hearing to establish that they weren't either citizens or legal residents.

 

[Unkotare]

I've always felt that here should be a multiple tier system. Citizens should have full rights under the Constitution. Legal residents should have rights, but to a lesser extent. Illegal aliens should only have the right to be protected from abuse while in the process of being deported. Their due process would be limited to a hearing to establish that they weren't either citizens or legal residents.

CONSTITUTION

 

[LeroyDumonde]

CONSTITUTION

What about it?

 

[AZrailwhale]

CONSTITUTION

The Constitution can be amended. I'm saying that this has been my idea, not that it is legal at the present time. You have to remember that the founders never envisioned anything like the welfare state that has grown up since FDR's days. Their idea was a small, relatively powerless federal government that acted like an umpire to referee differences between the states and handle things like diplomacy and defense.

 

[Unkotare]

What about it?

It's the fundamental law of the US. It is YOUR law and it applies to YOU whether you like it or not.

 

[Unkotare]

The Constitution can be amended. .....

Funny how those who bitch about this or that aspect of the Constitution never do the first damn thing to even start such a process.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Funny how those who bitch about this or that aspect of the Constitution never do the first damn thing to even start such a process.

I don’t think my view has much support, but I’ve felt that way since grade school.