How to destroy the USA IN SIX EASY STEPS..............

nibor

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Subject: Immigration----


We know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado. In that context his thoughts are particularly poignant. Last week there was an immigration overpopulation conference in Washington , DC , filled to capacity by many of America 's finest minds and leaders. A brilliant college professor by the name of Victor Hansen Davis talked about his latest book, "Mexifornia," explaining how immigration - both legal and illegal was destroying the entire state of California . He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all vestige s of The American Dream.


Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America . The audience sat spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United States . He said, "If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let's destroy America . It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that 'An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.'"


"Here is how they do it," Lamm said: "First, to destroy America , turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country." History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar, Seymour Lipset, put it this way: "The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy." Canada , Belgium , Malaysia , and Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans.".


Lamm went on: Second, to destroy America , "Invent 'multiculturalism' and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. Make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no cultural differences Make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due solely to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds.


Third, "We could make the United States an 'Hispanic Quebec' without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: "The apparent success of our own multiethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentricity and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together." Lamm said, "I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America enforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities."


"Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school."


"My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology' I would get all minorities to think that their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population."


"My sixth plan for America 's downfall would include dual citizenship, and promote divided loyalties I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other - that is, when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common Language and literature; and they worshipped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games. A comm on enemy, Persia , threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to overcome two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell. "E. Pluribus Unum" --From many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the pluribus' instead of the 'Unum,' we will balkanize America as surely as Kosovo."


"Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits; make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity.' I would find a word similar to 'heretic' in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'xenophobe' halt discussion and debate. Having made America a bilingual/bicultural country, having established multi-culturism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of 'Victimology,' I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for America , it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant symmetry and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them."


In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound silence followed. Finally he said,. "Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson Davis's book "Mexifornia." His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America . If you feel America deserves to be destroyed, don't read that book.


There was no applause. A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Even barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate 'diversity.' American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World in America - take note of California and other states - to date, ten million illegal aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell's book "1984." In that story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: "War is peace," "Freedom is slavery," and "Ignorance is strength."


Governor Lamm walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy is deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don't get this immigration monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a California wildfire and destroy everything in its path especially The American Dream.


If you care for and love our country as I do, take the time to pass this on just as I did for you. NOTHING is going to happen if you don't.
 
Almost everyone who posts here is an immigrant a few generations back, so it is unlikely that would destroy America or it would have long ago. What will destroy a country is the loss of its economic bases, it can be argued whether that is happening now but the dependency on oil should be a major source of concern. We have built an infrastructure that is car dependent, and we seem to be unwilling to support that infrastructure or to change. I think too, a loss of a common knowledge, a sense of belonging to the society and working to support it are also being lost through a self centered business ethic and a lack of a civic public education which bound those early immigrants together. We divide ourselves today through a trivial focus on the unimportant. Imagine trying to build railroads or subways today, those things linked us.
 
Almost everyone who posts here is an immigrant a few generations back, so it is unlikely that would destroy America or it would have long ago. What will destroy a country is the loss of its economic bases, it can be argued whether that is happening now but the dependency on oil should be a major source of concern. We have built an infrastructure that is car dependent, and we seem to be unwilling to support that infrastructure or to change. I think too, a loss of a common knowledge, a sense of belonging to the society and working to support it are also being lost through a self centered business ethic and a lack of a civic public education which bound those early immigrants together. We divide ourselves today through a trivial focus on the unimportant. Imagine trying to build railroads or subways today, those things linked us.


Except for the part where opportunities that were available then are not necessarily available now. Burdening ourselves with people that cannot find anything but the meagerest of opportunities will most certainly drag us down even further economically.
 
Almost everyone who posts here is an immigrant a few generations back, so it is unlikely that would destroy America or it would have long ago. What will destroy a country is the loss of its economic bases, it can be argued whether that is happening now but the dependency on oil should be a major source of concern. We have built an infrastructure that is car dependent, and we seem to be unwilling to support that infrastructure or to change. I think too, a loss of a common knowledge, a sense of belonging to the society and working to support it are also being lost through a self centered business ethic and a lack of a civic public education which bound those early immigrants together. We divide ourselves today through a trivial focus on the unimportant. Imagine trying to build railroads or subways today, those things linked us.


Easy to say midcan but no one culture has ever been invited to invade on this scale for the reasons that these people have...................BY SIGNED CONTRACT!!!!!!!!!!! By limp wristed elitest traitors................
 
That article has been posted on a number of websites. Here's a couple of links: http://www.considercommonsense.com/buried-treasures/governor-dick-lamm-on-multiculturalism/ and http://fpd.gsfc.nasa.gov/diversity/Dick_Lamm_former_Gov.pdf, Nibor, please adhere to the rules of USMB posting: do not post an article in its entirety and always post a link to the article.

Thank you Nibor. You posted the link moments before I posted this.


Domino I recieved it as is from a friend of mine in an email.................



Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 17:17:16 -0700
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Sent: Tue, 13 May 2008 9:36 pm
Subject: Immigration----


We know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado. In that context his thoughts are particularly poignant. Last week there was an immigration overpopulation conference in Washington , DC , filled to capacity by many of America 's finest minds and leaders. A brilliant college professor by the name of Victor Hansen Davis talked about his latest book, "Mexifornia," explaining how immigration - both legal and illegal was destroying the entire state of California . He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all vestige s of The American Dream.









Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America . The audience sat spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United States . He said, "If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let's destroy America . It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that 'An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.'"









"Here is how they do it," Lamm said: "First, to destroy America , turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country." History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar, Seymour Lipset, put it this way: "The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy." Canada , Belgium , Malaysia , and Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans.".









Lamm went on: Second, to destroy America , "Invent 'multiculturalism' and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. Make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no cultural differences Make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due solely to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds.









Third, "We could make the United States an 'Hispanic Quebec' without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: "The apparent success of our own multiethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentricity and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together." Lamm said, "I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America enforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities."









"Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school."









"My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology' I would get all minorities to think that their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population."









"My sixth plan for America 's downfall would include dual citizenship, and promote divided loyalties I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other - that is, when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common Language and literature; and they worshipped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games. A comm on enemy, Persia , threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to overcome two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell. "E. Pluribus Unum" --From many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the pluribus' instead of the 'Unum,' we will balkanize America as surely as Kosovo."









"Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits; make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity.' I would find a word similar to 'heretic' in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'xenophobe' halt discussion and debate. Having made America a bilingual/bicultural country, having established multi-culturism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of 'Victimology,' I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for America , it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant symmetry and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them."









In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound silence followed. Finally he said,. "Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson Davis's book "Mexifornia." His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America . If you feel America deserves to be destroyed, don't read that book."









There was no applause. A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Even barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate 'diversity.' American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World in America - take note of California and other states - to date, ten million illegal aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell's book "1984." In that story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: "War is peace," "Freedom is slavery," and "Ignorance is strength."









Governor Lamm walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy is deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don't get this immigration monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a California wildfire and destroy everything in its path especially The American Dream.









If you care for and love our country as I do, take the time to pass this on just as I did for you. NOTHING is going to happen if you don't.
 
Almost everyone who posts here is an immigrant a few generations back, so it is unlikely that would destroy America or it would have long ago. What will destroy a country is the loss of its economic bases, it can be argued whether that is happening now but the dependency on oil should be a major source of concern. We have built an infrastructure that is car dependent, and we seem to be unwilling to support that infrastructure or to change. I think too, a loss of a common knowledge, a sense of belonging to the society and working to support it are also being lost through a self centered business ethic and a lack of a civic public education which bound those early immigrants together. We divide ourselves today through a trivial focus on the unimportant. Imagine trying to build railroads or subways today, those things linked us.

a few generations back, immigrants did not refuse to assimilate or learn the language. A few generation back immigrants did not expect that government would foot the bill for them either.

every minority talks about preserving their culture but the American culture seem not worthy of defending. Immigrants should be required to learn English and required to assimilate. we should NOT have road signs in multiple languages. We should NOT have ballots printed in multiple languages and we Should NOT be wasting tax dollars bogus diversity programs.
 
Except for the part where every immigrant group says the same things about the ones that come after it.

Is that supposed to be a response to me? If it is, it is irrelevant to what I posted. I'm not an immigrant group and I didn't "come here." I was born here.

None of which alters whether or not opportunities are still available to immigrants one way or the other. We used to think oil was a an infinite resource as well. Things change, and the reality of the change has nothing to do with misguided and/or incorrect idealism.
 
Make them all citizens. This is the same xenophobia that has existed with each wave of immigrants we've dealt with. They all end up assimilating as history shows. America is a great country and the constitution is not so weak that hearing spanish is going to destroy it.
 
Boo... this nation is great despite you xenophobes...


btw lamm is an idiot....
Not to mention...

"History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. "

This statement is skewed. History shows it otherwise as well... History shows that symbiosis between cultures provide prosperity not seen in homogenus societies..

Oh well Lamm said it and its been circling in a chain mail so it must be true.....
 
so name those societies.


Cause, the entire history of euro's in the new world says otherwise. So, too, does French quebec. We are not talking about a SYMBIOSIS of cultures. We are talking about an infestation of illegals treating it's host the same way botfly larvae uses ITS host. There is no integration or assimilation going on. Mexicans here illegally are still speaking Spanish and continuing their MEXICAN lifestyles with the benefit of clean running water and a government that can actually maintain the semblance of law.


But, I await your list of benevolent nations that freely swap citizens which strengthen the national ID of both..
 
so name those societies.


Cause, the entire history of euro's in the new world says otherwise. So, too, does French quebec. We are not talking about a SYMBIOSIS of cultures. We are talking about an infestation of illegals treating it's host the same way botfly larvae uses ITS host. There is no integration or assimilation going on. Mexicans here illegally are still speaking Spanish and continuing their MEXICAN lifestyles with the benefit of clean running water and a government that can actually maintain the semblance of law.


But, I await your list of benevolent nations that freely swap citizens which strengthen the national ID of both..
Why do you and your people focus on our brown faced southern neighbors... lets get at the real reason for your complaint why dont we....
 
so name those societies.


Cause, the entire history of euro's in the new world says otherwise. So, too, does French quebec. We are not talking about a SYMBIOSIS of cultures. We are talking about an infestation of illegals treating it's host the same way botfly larvae uses ITS host. There is no integration or assimilation going on. Mexicans here illegally are still speaking Spanish and continuing their MEXICAN lifestyles with the benefit of clean running water and a government that can actually maintain the semblance of law.


But, I await your list of benevolent nations that freely swap citizens which strengthen the national ID of both..

Swap citizens? Dunno. Integration happens when you allow people to become citizens. It's been happening here since the USA was colonized.
 
Swap citizens? Dunno. Integration happens when you allow people to become citizens. It's been happening here since the USA was colonized.
Yeah as far as swapping.. I was picturing spotlights on a foggy bridge over the Rio Grand where citizen exchanges were taking place five people at a time...
 
Why do you and your people focus on our brown faced southern neighbors... lets get at the real reason for your complaint why dont we....

why don't you stop avoiding my question about your statement by assuming that im a racist that hates mexicans. You said


This statement is skewed. History shows it otherwise as well... History shows that symbiosis between cultures provide prosperity not seen in homogenus societies..



feel free to name them. History also shows PROSPERITY rife in Nazi Germany too. Prosperity in England while it taxed the shit out of the colonies. Prosperity while we were busy rationalizing manifest destiny. Care to comment on how each of these conflicting societies gelled into a prosperous common nation? French Quebec isn't gelling with the REST of Canada. The colonies didn't gel with the native societies. THE US didn't gel with Mexico while taking the American southwest. so, Im curious, who where YOU talking about?
 

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