How to Deal with the Family Criminal?...

I read something about him. Some people say he didn't do anything against the law. I hope for him this is not true because if he's not guilty he's spending all his life behind bars :(
Maybe I should have said "at the end he's not Ted Bundy"
He was a bad guy for sure ;)
(I really like his voice. I didn't know he could sing :ack-1:)
 
I read something about him. Some people say he didn't do anything against the law. I hope for him this is not true because if he's not guilty he's spending all his life behind bars :(

I believe he committed mercenary for hire. He could of been paroled many times, but they always deemed him too crazy to be released.

(I really like his voice. I didn't know he could sing :ack-1:)

Yeah, he is actually a pretty inspired artist in my opinion. Here is a more upbeat song.

 
I read that every five years they deny him parole because they think he's crazy.
but if he's really crazy why don't they send him to a mental asylum?
that could be a proper decision I guess :)
 
What you don't say leaves too much room for conjecture. You make it appear that your wife was raped by this guy and gets triggered when she sees him. Is that true?

From the charges and circumstances, photography business, child endangerment, did he go to prison for kiddie porn?

I can't fill in the blanks but if those things are true, don't go. You don't need the heartburn.
 
I got word from my mother this evening that the Black Sheep of our family (my father's youngest brother) will likely be getting out of prison next April.

If so, he will have served 8 years of a 15 year sentence for multiple Child Endangerment and Invasion of Privacy charges he plead guilty to in 2009. These were related to a home photography business he ran. He will have to register as a sex offender and will be on lifetime parole.

Some of you know that my wife was raped and sexually assaulted on multiple occasions as a pre-teen. She still suffers the PTSD effects of those incidents even after nearly a decade of counseling (she repressed the memories for over a decade).

Assuming my uncle is released, there is a very high probability that he will be at certain family events that my wife and I also attend.

My wife has made it extremely clear that she wants nothing to do with him. I agree and feel the same way. However, my mother has made it very clear that she wants and expects me (not my wife) to at least be cordial to him at these events. I'd rather simply avoid him completely. If for no other reason than keeping me from causing a scene when I kick his ass.

What do you folks think? Any advice or suggestions on how to handle this sort of situation?
One day when your mother is gone you'll never see him again. And if he visits her Saturday ID visit on Sunday.

When you have to see him I'm sure other people will be around so you can avoid him

Also consider he paid his dues. He served his time. He owes you and your wife nothing. If he didn't rape your wife then she's punishing him for something he didn't do.

I have a sex offender former friend. I told him sorry but I can never hang out with you again.

You are the sum of the five people you hang out with the most. One of my five can't be a sex offender.
 
Color me usurprised that you think Manson is a good guy.

I have a different idea of morality than you.

Charles Manson fought for something he believed in. That instantly makes him better than most people in my book. I do not agree with his theories, but I respect him for playing the game. It is of no consequence that he lost.
 
Color me usurprised that you think Manson is a good guy.

I have a different idea of morality than you.

Charles Manson fought for something he believed in. That instantly makes him better than most people in my book. I do not agree with his theories, but I respect him for playing the game. It is of no consequence that he lost.







Rational morality. Nope. I have ethics. Ethics don't change like the wind. It is wrong to murder people who have nothing to do with what you are fighting about. The fact that you support such idiocy merely reinforces my low opinion of you.
 
It is wrong to murder people who have nothing to do with what you are fighting about.

I do not believe in ethics so much as I believe in respecting the human condition.

The fact that you support such idiocy merely reinforces my low opinion of you.

I do not support what Charles Manson did (mercenary for hire), but I respect him for doing it.

Understand?
 
Color me usurprised that you think Manson is a good guy.

I have a different idea of morality than you.

Charles Manson fought for something he believed in. That instantly makes him better than most people in my book. I do not agree with his theories, but I respect him for playing the game. It is of no consequence that he lost.

Hitler fought for something he believed in.
 
Hitler fought for something he believed in.

Yeah, but Hitler did not respect the human condition.

There was no growth. He died overwhelmed by hatred for his fellow man. I do not buy that Hitler really bought into his own bullshit. Especially with all the scapegoating and backstabbing.
 
It is wrong to murder people who have nothing to do with what you are fighting about.

I do not believe in ethics so much as I believe in respecting the human condition.

The fact that you support such idiocy merely reinforces my low opinion of you.

I do not support what Charles Manson did (mercenary for hire), but I respect him for doing it.

Understand?





The human condition IS ethics. You feel that Manson played the "game" well. The problem with that is real people died, so it really wasn't a "game" now was it.
 
Nonsense. They are treated pretty well and often given a second chance. and third. And fourth. That doesn't mean we ignore the nature of the crime though, pedophiles need to be kept on a short leash. The dama ge they do may be irreparable and like has been said, may continue the cycle of abuse.

Compared to the resources we provide in terms of treatment for drug addicts and even spousal abuser, do, we do not "treat them pretty well."
Sure we do. They aren't curable and we don't pump bullets into their brain pans like we ought to.

And what's your expertise in this matter? Judging by your choice of words, my guess is you're no smarter than the OP.
What's yours? Personal experience? I've heard from many sources for many years they MAY alter behavior but the desire stays.


So in other words it's exactly like drug and alcohol addiction. Thank you for conceding the point finally
What point did I concede? You make up arguments and victories so you can live with your pathetic self? People do overcome drugs and alcohol in this reality but they have nothing to do with seeing a sex object when looking at a child. That means your brain is corrupt and as far as I am concerned, can be disposed of.
 
We treat them fine, they get extensive counseling. The court system tries to rehab this group, how ever sexual deviants very rarely reform because the things that sexually excites them, power and control, does not change inside their minds.

All sex is based on power and control.

The problem is not their psyche. It is the fact that they have proven that their sexual desires outweigh their empathy for the victim.
That's stupid. You can only speak for yourself. If sex is about power and control that's you acting out on your shortcomings.
 
I'd go to the events but pull him aside and tell him to stay away from you and your wife. Carry some pepper spray in case he forgets.

That's kind do of where I think we're going to end up with this. Not really where I want to be, but probably where we'll end up.
 
We treat them fine, they get extensive counseling. The court system tries to rehab this group, how ever sexual deviants very rarely reform because the things that sexually excites them, power and control, does not change inside their minds.

All sex is based on power and control.

The problem is not their psyche. It is the fact that they have proven that their sexual desires outweigh their empathy for the victim.

Sex is about feeling really, really, really good.
 
I'd go to the events but pull him aside and tell him to stay away from you and your wife. Carry some pepper spray in case he forgets.

That's kind do of where I think we're going to end up with this. Not really where I want to be, but probably where we'll end up.
Just remember to turn away before you spray. FOX is good stuff but Sabre has some good ones, watch some youtube's, puts people down for a while.
 

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